U.S. Ice Dance News & Discussion: 2013/14 Olympic season & promising future prospects

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Sylvia, Oct 18, 2013.

  1. semogal

    semogal Well-Known Member

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    Good luck to our JR World team tomorrow!! Remember that Icenetwork is showing it live starting at 7:00 AM Eastern (subscription required).
     
  2. Turbo-Mom

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    First of all let's all pray the Madison get's back to 100% for next season. Cartilage, and its supporting bone and nourishment is very difficult to treat and deal with, both physically and also mentally - sort of like watching grass grow. Glad to hear that Physical Therapy has started and she is recovering well. Expect to see her home and at DSC very soon.
    The Dream Team.
     
  3. toddlj

    toddlj Livestreams at 1am on Thanksgiving weekend? OK!

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    Hawayek and Baker just scored 66.73 for their SP at Jr. Worlds. I know we can't compare competition-to-competition, but this score would put them in the top echelon of US senior teams. It is higher than Chock/Bates and the Shibs season's best scores. Could we see a changing of the guard next year?
     
  4. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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    Excellent showing by all 3 U.S. teams - 1st, 3rd and 4th after the SD!
    1 Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER USA 66.73 (new ISU PB/SB) 36.86 29.87 7.54 7.18 7.46 7.61 7.50 0.00 #25
    3 Lorraine MCNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER USA 58.65 (new ISU PB/SB) 32.00 26.65 6.79 6.46 6.68 6.68 6.68 0.00 #23
    4 Rachel PARSONS / Michael PARSONS USA 58.08 31.65 26.43 6.71 6.39 6.68 6.68 6.57 0.00 #27
     
  5. clairecloutier

    clairecloutier Well-Known Member

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    Awesome!
     
  6. her grace

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    I don't see them beating Chock/Bates, but they could surpass Aldridge/Eaton.

    It will be interesting to see if any of these teams make coaching changes. Krylova's camp seems particularly full.
     
  7. reese

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    I absolutely think they could pass Chock and Bates. Maybe not by this time next year, but possibly by 2016. H/B definitely could pass the Shibs by Nationals next year if the Shibs stay in. So much will depend on the Grand Prix scores.
     
  8. lmarie086

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    Best of luck to our junior teams! That's a great result after the SD. It'll definitely be interesting to see how things play out with teams moving up to the senior level in the fall.

    Just so long as Hubbell/Donohue make their way to the top and stay there. ;)
     
  9. her grace

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    I could see them passing Chock/Bates eventually. I certainly don't think there's going to be a changing of the guard next season, which is the question I answered. Hawayek/Baker are a fine junior team with excellent junior results. Still, there's no need to rush to anoint them senior national champions. Chock/Bates, Hubbell/Donohue, the Shibs, and Aldridge/Eaton are strong teams, too, and will be formidable competition for Hawayek/Baker.
     
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  10. TanithandBenFan

    TanithandBenFan U.S. Ice Dance Junkie

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    I think C/B have great potential after seeing how far they've come in a few years together. They have a beautiful presence on the ice and wonderful chemistry. I know I'm in the minority, but I hope they rise to the top and kick a$$ for many years to come!
     
  11. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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    Tweeted by USFS just now: "For the first time ever, the U.S. is home to the current Olympic champs, World champs and World Junior champs in ice dance!"

    Congratulations to Kaitlin Hawayek & Jean-Luc Baker, 2014 World Junior champions! :cheer:
    ETA links to their FD video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqTil6nSmmw
    Short Dance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYe7MokCOag

    Lorraine McNamara/Quinn Carpenter finish in 4th (just over one point from 3rd) and the Parsons siblings place 8th in their JW debut.
     
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  12. GarrAarghHrumph

    GarrAarghHrumph I can kill you with my brain

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    Lynn Rutherford just reported that the ISU dance committee is thinking of one fewer lifts in the FD for next season.
     
  13. semogal

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    A great day for US Ice Dance. Lovely FD from H/B, so very happy for them!!!
     
  14. toddlj

    toddlj Livestreams at 1am on Thanksgiving weekend? OK!

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    Hawayek and Baker's new 157.12 SB is a bit behind that of the Shibs (157+), Hubbel/Donohue (158+) and Chock/Bates (164+). They are however quite a bit ahead of Aldridge/Eaton's 144.95. It will be interesting to see all five of these teams next season, and see how it plays out.
     
  15. jenniwren12

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    H/B's SD and FD are on youtube already: they looked fantastic! Very promising. I'm excited to watch this couple grow!
     
  16. reese

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    I thought it was interesting in the Icenetwork post-FD article that Hawayek/Baker said they hadn't decided yet if they were moving to senior next year. I still assume they will; they will have a good shot at the World team.
     
  17. hockeyplayer2

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    Congratulations to H/B on their World Jr. Championship title! The US has a wonderful future.


    Just as comparing scores competition against competition does nothing, neither does comparing scores from JR to SR level.
     
  18. toddlj

    toddlj Livestreams at 1am on Thanksgiving weekend? OK!

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    Like it or not, SB scores are used to determine who gets on the GP, despite the fact that they are from different competitions. So, I agree with you that the comparison doesn't necessarily tell us a lot about the future; but they do matter.
     
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  19. caitie

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    They definitely matter for GP placements, but I don't think you can compare them directly to C/B or the Shibs. I mean, look how much more difficult the quickstep pattern is for the senior teams.
     
  20. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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    ^^^ My bad - thanks for the correction! Link to the results page of Parsons/Parsons' official site: http://www.parsons.ice-dance.com/by-season/

    ISU Season Best Total scores this season after Junior Worlds and before Worlds - top 10 U.S. teams:

    1 195.52 Meryl DAVIS / Charlie WHITE USA XXII Olympic Winter Games 2014 17.02.2014
    8 164.64 Madison CHOCK / Evan BATES USA XXII Olympic Winter Games 2014 17.02.2014
    10 158.25 Madison HUBBELL / Zachary DONOHUE USA ISU Four Continents Championships 2014 23.01.2014
    11 157.58 Maia SHIBUTANI / Alex SHIBUTANI USA ISU GP NHK Trophy 2013 10.11.2013
    12 157.12 Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER USA ISU World Junior Championships 2014 14.03.2014
    21 144.95 Alexandra ALDRIDGE / Daniel EATON USA ISU Four Continents Championships 2014 23.01.2014
    28 138.53 Lorraine MCNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER USA ISU World Junior Championships 2014 14.03.2014
    35 134.73 Rachel PARSONS / Michael PARSONS USA ISU JGP Czech Skate 2013 04.10.2013
    43 130.05 Lynn KRIENGKRAIRUT / Logan GIULIETTI-SCHMITT USA ISU Four Continents Championships 2014 23.01.2014
    52 127.74 Holly MOORE / Daniel KLABER USA ISU JGP Tallinn Cup 2013 12.10.2013
     
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  23. semogal

    semogal Well-Known Member

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  24. semogal

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    Wishing our Worlds team well. May they each have the skates of their dreams. (and keep the 3 spots for next year!!!)
     
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  25. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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  26. Skittl1321

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    Man, I got spoiled with short programs being at 5:15 a.m.
    I'll be missing dance.
     
  27. Spareoom

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    If I wasn't working early on Friday, I'd be watching...I find it easier to stay up late then to go to bed and get up early (3 or 4am). Ugh, just no. Either way, I have to be up at 5am anyway so I'm not missing any sleep, lol.

    Good luck to all the dance teams, especially the Shibs because I want them to have an awesome result and prove the haterz wrong.
     
  28. semogal

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    Thanks Sylvia. I am so tired from staying up late the last few nights that my brain hurt trying to figure out start times vs my time!
     
  29. semogal

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    Congrats to our US Worlds team!!! They once again secured 3 placements for the US.
    Chock/Bates finished in 5th with a score of 167.59
    Shibs finished in 6th with a score of 158.57
    Aldridge/Eaton finished in 17th with a score of 137.47

    And good news for all the Shibs fans, in the IN recap article they confirmed they will remain with Zoueva and compete next season!!
    http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2014/03/29/70411480

    "Next year starts right away for us," he said. "We have a great team of coaches around us; we really trust Marina. I know we are going to come up with some great stuff over the next four years."
     
  30. BlueRidge

    BlueRidge AYS's snark-sponge

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    Hooray!! :rollin: I am so happy to hear that!