Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by Sylvia, Oct 18, 2013.
Nathalie and Fabian FTW
Wait, what?? Where is it confirmed that Meryl & Charlie are skipping worlds? <hopping over to worlds threads>
Here's a list of the entries and the alternates:
I knew this was a real possibility but I held out hope that we would see Meryl and Charlie one last time. I am so bummed.
It is for sure D/W are retiring though? Maybe they're just taking some time to capitalize on their OGM (doing SOI and perhaps DWTS) but will be back for another season to cap off their career. Wishful thinking on my part but I really hope that now with no Olympic pressure they'll want to go out on a creative high ... and skate to LOTR or Game of Thrones (teehee)
Wow. I thought that Davis and White would at least do Worlds so that the U.S. can keep three spots in ice dance. Does the U.S. have a chance to keep three spots?
Tweet from Lynn Rutherford: https://twitter.com/LynnRutherford/status/440583419157024769
If the rankings stay the same but everyone moves up two spots because of the absence of V&M and D&W then U.S. would be 6&7 = 13 = three spots.
That is officially THE MOST OPAQUE entry list ever. It includes ALL alternates without distinguishing who's actually going and who isn't, so that you have to know how many slots a country has to determine who's in and who's out (beyond a maximum of 3, of course). However. . . No D/W on there :
You can sort of tell because the list is in alphabetical order. The skaters who are taking up slots that federations are entitled to are listed alphabetically, and then the alternates are listed afterwards.
Thanks. That is cutting it close, though - Yikes!
Here's a less opaque list at least as it pertains to the USA:
2014 U.S. World Figure Skating Team:
Marissa Castelli and Simon Shnapir
Caydee Denney and John Coughlin
Alexandra Aldridge and Daniel Eaton
Madison Chock and Evan Bates
Maia Shibutani and Alex Shibutani
Sending thoughts and prayers to Madison Hubbell today as she undergoes surgery on her hip.
Yes. I wish her the best of luck with the surgery and recovery, hope all goes well.
Yes all positive thoughts for Madison! Hope the healing process is as easy as possible and that she and Zach will be set to own next season.
Hurray!!!!!!! Best case scenario coming out of surgery. So proud of @MadiHubbell!!! She has been so strong all season. Now the worst is over
9:43 PM - 4 Mar 2014
Follow up to yesterday's post-
I'm sad that H/D aren't going to get to Words, but I'm glad Madison's surgery went well. I hope she has a smooth recovery.
^^^This...and that next season is very successful for them. Looking forward to seeing them at 2015 Worlds!
Good luck to our JR World team tomorrow!! Remember that Icenetwork is showing it live starting at 7:00 AM Eastern (subscription required).
First of all let's all pray the Madison get's back to 100% for next season. Cartilage, and its supporting bone and nourishment is very difficult to treat and deal with, both physically and also mentally - sort of like watching grass grow. Glad to hear that Physical Therapy has started and she is recovering well. Expect to see her home and at DSC very soon.
The Dream Team.
Hawayek and Baker just scored 66.73 for their SP at Jr. Worlds. I know we can't compare competition-to-competition, but this score would put them in the top echelon of US senior teams. It is higher than Chock/Bates and the Shibs season's best scores. Could we see a changing of the guard next year?
Excellent showing by all 3 U.S. teams - 1st, 3rd and 4th after the SD!
1 Kaitlin HAWAYEK / Jean-Luc BAKER USA 66.73 (new ISU PB/SB) 36.86 29.87 7.54 7.18 7.46 7.61 7.50 0.00 #25
3 Lorraine MCNAMARA / Quinn CARPENTER USA 58.65 (new ISU PB/SB) 32.00 26.65 6.79 6.46 6.68 6.68 6.68 0.00 #23
4 Rachel PARSONS / Michael PARSONS USA 58.08 31.65 26.43 6.71 6.39 6.68 6.68 6.57 0.00 #27
I don't see them beating Chock/Bates, but they could surpass Aldridge/Eaton.
It will be interesting to see if any of these teams make coaching changes. Krylova's camp seems particularly full.
I absolutely think they could pass Chock and Bates. Maybe not by this time next year, but possibly by 2016. H/B definitely could pass the Shibs by Nationals next year if the Shibs stay in. So much will depend on the Grand Prix scores.
Best of luck to our junior teams! That's a great result after the SD. It'll definitely be interesting to see how things play out with teams moving up to the senior level in the fall.
Just so long as Hubbell/Donohue make their way to the top and stay there.
I could see them passing Chock/Bates eventually. I certainly don't think there's going to be a changing of the guard next season, which is the question I answered. Hawayek/Baker are a fine junior team with excellent junior results. Still, there's no need to rush to anoint them senior national champions. Chock/Bates, Hubbell/Donohue, the Shibs, and Aldridge/Eaton are strong teams, too, and will be formidable competition for Hawayek/Baker.
I think C/B have great potential after seeing how far they've come in a few years together. They have a beautiful presence on the ice and wonderful chemistry. I know I'm in the minority, but I hope they rise to the top and kick a$$ for many years to come!
Tweeted by USFS just now: "For the first time ever, the U.S. is home to the current Olympic champs, World champs and World Junior champs in ice dance!"
Congratulations to Kaitlin Hawayek & Jean-Luc Baker, 2014 World Junior champions!
ETA links to their FD video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UqTil6nSmmw
Short Dance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYe7MokCOag
Lorraine McNamara/Quinn Carpenter finish in 4th (just over one point from 3rd) and the Parsons siblings place 8th in their JW debut.
Lynn Rutherford just reported that the ISU dance committee is thinking of one fewer lifts in the FD for next season.
A great day for US Ice Dance. Lovely FD from H/B, so very happy for them!!!
Hawayek and Baker's new 157.12 SB is a bit behind that of the Shibs (157+), Hubbel/Donohue (158+) and Chock/Bates (164+). They are however quite a bit ahead of Aldridge/Eaton's 144.95. It will be interesting to see all five of these teams next season, and see how it plays out.
H/B's SD and FD are on youtube already: they looked fantastic! Very promising. I'm excited to watch this couple grow!
I thought it was interesting in the Icenetwork post-FD article that Hawayek/Baker said they hadn't decided yet if they were moving to senior next year. I still assume they will; they will have a good shot at the World team.
Congratulations to H/B on their World Jr. Championship title! The US has a wonderful future.
Just as comparing scores competition against competition does nothing, neither does comparing scores from JR to SR level.
Like it or not, SB scores are used to determine who gets on the GP, despite the fact that they are from different competitions. So, I agree with you that the comparison doesn't necessarily tell us a lot about the future; but they do matter.
They definitely matter for GP placements, but I don't think you can compare them directly to C/B or the Shibs. I mean, look how much more difficult the quickstep pattern is for the senior teams.
East Aurora Produces World Junior Figure Skating Champion [Kaitlin Hawayek] - local New York news story: http://www.wgrz.com/story/news/loca...world-junior-figure-skating-champion/6477605/
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