True Blood and Dead Ever After

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  1. pixie cut

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    A new season of True Blood approaches. I couldn't find last year's thread so I'm starting a new one.

    What do you think of the trailer? I think it looks okay. It will be interesting to see if the series can come back from last year's (IMHO) weak season.

    Also, who's reading the final Sookie Stackhouse novel from Charlaine Harris, Dead Ever After?
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    I haven't been able to get the book yet, but I've heard the spoilers...

    I do also know, though, that apparently in September there is a 'what happens after the series' kind of book coming out.

    As for the trailer, looks a lot better than season 5 was. I'm happy Nora is still around, but we damn well better get some Eric/Sookie flirting too (though I do prefer Nora, actually). Love that Sarah Newlin (I believe it's her voice in the trailer) is coming back.

    I'm over the show, though. It's a pretty terrible show now. Like most people I know, the only reasons I keep watching are Eric and Lafayette. There are rumours that
    Eric will be killed off this year
    and while I doubt it would happen, because of the reaction they'd get, I also wouldn't be all that surprised. I also wouldn't be surprised if this ends up being the last season of the show. Alex Skarsgård is the show's biggest star, and he has a pretty decent film career going now - 3 movies out between last month and this month, another later this year, talks of starring in a Tarzan movie, the bullshit 50 Shades movie (please don't do it, Alex!!)... And while he enjoys working on the show, he has flat out said that as long as he does the show he has 'f**k you money' and enjoys other projects.

    - And speaking of Alex, he was really dorkily awkward last week on Jimmy Fallon (can't find the video on youtube, but he talked about his tattoo which was drawn by his little brother)
    - He recently sang a Swedish song (the song for his football team) in an interview (that always ends with the guest singing.)
    - And was cute on Live with Kelly and Michael, pretending to cry while talking about an old girlfriend.
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  3. pixie cut

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    I think there will be one more season of True Blood after this one with or without certain people. Then honestly, some of the actors playing vampires -- most notably Stephen Moyer -- have aged too much to be believable.
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    Stephen may have aged, but I think he looks much more attractive now than he used to. I think a lot of the actors are a bit 'over' the show now, even if they aren't as successful as Alex in other endeavours. He and Joe (who I really don't like, even after meeting him in person) are definitely experiencing the most post TB success.

    I'm hoping the show will have some good changes this year, now that Alan Ball is not running it anymore. They have some great cast additions (Robert Patrick is now a regular, and Rutger Hauer has joined the show in the role that I think David Bowie would have been perfect for). According to True Blood Wiki, there are 22 regular castmembers for the upcoming season. I have no idea how they will fit all their names in the opening credits...

    And also, apparently this season will only be 10 episodes, because they got a late start to filming because of Anna and Stephen's babies.
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    For True Blood, I hope it's better than last year. Last year was by far my least favorite season. Vampires, werewolves, fairies, witches and all of that are cool. I'm able to suspend my belief long enough to enjoy it and not let my rational thinking spoil the show...

    However I think last season's story line was a mistake. I'm not super religious or sensitive about people trying to tie things to the bible or biblical times or anything like that...I just think they tried a little too hard, to the point it was a almost too much of a stretch for me to believe it or take it seriously. The whole Lilith/Salome/vampire religious cult thing got really old really fast to the point I was annoyed by the end of the season and I'm barely looking forward to seeing it return.

    I really hope they do a better job this season...

    Now what I am salivating to see is Dexter! Last season was phenomenal and the ending was jaw-dropping...I can't wait to see how they wrap that show up.
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    Ditto! I found season five extremely disappointing. It was morose, unfocused and way too sanctimonious. Hopefully, this season will be better. I'd like to see this series go out strong.
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    I read the book and it ended exactly as I predicted it would when I read the first book. There really were no other options and I cannot think anyone who read the series was surprised.
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    I've read all the books and short stories and the novella. While I wasn't surprised, I was disappointed. I hope the TV series ends a bit less predictably.
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    I was not surprised at who she ended up with. That was pretty much a given as Harris has been about as subtle as Acme Anvils on that point. I think most people are upset at the WAY it was done. Harris might have had an idea for how to get there when she originally envisioned it as a five book series, but it contradicts how the characters actually developed. She also did not follow the rules of her own universe, and I was shocked at Sookie's regression.
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    I suppose I could vent my full frustrations with a spoiler tag, but I'd rather just say the books, which at times were incredibly exciting, truly limped to finish while simultaneously losing their perspective.
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    From Amazon, To be released October 29
    After Dead: What Came Next in the World of Sookie Stackhouse

    Synopsis:
    Though I doubt it, there's still some hope...
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    I completely agree. I was actually thankful to hear about the spoiler and the spoiler reviews so I had time to cancel my nook pre-order and save myself $15 of disappointment. It sounds like it was even worse than the last two books which is saying something. :yikes:
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    If someone wouldn't mind, can you tell me what happens at the end of the books? (spoiler tag of course)

    I read the first two but they just didn't hold my attention the way I thought they would. I'd fallen in love with characters in the show who weren't in the book and I don't know...I just couldn't get through them. But I am curious to know how it all ended...
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    If you never got past book two, it would be way too convoluted to try and explain how it ends. Many of the characters on the TV show exist in the books, but in different ways. For example, Sam doesn't have a troubled past. He is a shifter, but so were his parents. He came from a loving family. Bill is a fairly insignificant character after book three. He appears throughout the 13 books -- sometimes playing a part in the action, but not a main character and certainly never king of Louisiana. Godric wasn't Eric's maker. Who and what Eric's maker was plays a part in later books and in the conclusion.

    Flutzilla1, I enjoyed Dead Ever After much more than Deadlocked. If you've read the whole series, read it. It is what it is. I'm not sorry I read it. I'm just sorry Charlaine Harris couldn't be bothered to write a better ending.
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    Alex was recently interviewed for one of his 87 new movies and was asked about his thoughts on Dead Ever After. He hasn't read it, but was informed of how it ends. And the written interview actually includes words to describe his reaction.
    Full discussion of the ending in the spoiler tag:
    The Lady Miz Diva: Are you aware of the controversy surrounding the last Sookie Stackhouse book and Eric’s fate?
    Alexander Skarsgård: No? What’s the controversy?

    LMD: What happens to him?
    AS: No, I haven’t read it. He bites the bullet?

    LMD: No, it’s worse…
    AS: It’s worse?

    LMD: Well, maybe. He ends up as a sex slave to the queen.
    *Three full seconds of stunned, open-mouthed silence*
    AS: Ohmigod! That’s in my future, huh? {Laughs} The queen is dead.

    LMD: There’s another one.
    AS: Another queen? I can be a sex slave, that’s fine.

    LMD: The fans are rather upset about it for Eric’s sake.
    AS: So, Eric’s a sex slave and she {Sookie} ends up with Bill…

    LMD: Nope, it’s Sam.
    AS: Wow, I didn’t see that coming.

    LMD: Neither did a lot of the fandom, apparently. There’s been a huge upset on the internet with other authors getting involved to defend Charlaine Harris against the outcry.
    AS: No, I didn’t know anything about it. That can’t be the end. There’s gotta be another book, right?

    LMD: There’s supposed to be a short epilogue coming.
    AS: Ahh, there you go. I knew there had to be more. Well, what number is this one, book 12 or 13?

    LMD: It’s book 13.
    AS: Hah! So, I don’t have to worry. We’re not going to get around to shooting it for about 8 more years.

    So basically, he agrees that there needs to be more to the story. (source - it's towards the bottom of the page)
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    I suppose the author of the piece wanted a reaction worthy of note from AS, because
    a consort is not a sex slave. Whether or not you like the ending that CH wrote for Eric, he is better compared to Prince Phillip, the husband (and consort) of Queen Elizabeth. By not marrying a king, Freyda was able to ensure that Eric would have her best interests, as they would be his best interests. If she dies, Eric cannot inherit, so she won't have to worry that he spends their marriage plotting against her, unlike Sophie-Anne. Yes, Eric would have to consummate the marriage, as was mentioned in previous novels, but a sex slave implies a very different situation, in which Eric would have no power whatsoever, which is not the case here.
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    I was thinking the same thing.

    Freyda chose Eric for his intellect, ruthlessness and business skills. There's no expectation of fidelity. Only Sookie is off limits to him. It was a strategic move. While obviously he's very good looking and sexual service is expected, he's by no means a sex slave.
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    Don't forget:

    Babyvamp-Jessica will start blogging again after the Summer premiere: http://www.babyvamp-jessica.com/

    I really like these blog posts by Jessica. Pam is in a few and they are funny.
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    That sums it up for me. There are so many holes and all the promised tolerance messages ended up being subverted. It was a lame book.
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    Alex was hilarious on Conan last night. He talked about everything from True Blood ("Eric's not a bad guy, he just kills people occasionally") to his dad's penis size. And has a great response when a fan shouts out "I love you, Alex!" in the middle of the interview.
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    Oh God-I have to watch this show again? My husband is totally hooked on it which is kind of funny. I think he has a crush on Sooki who I think is now just kind of a moody whiner with constant PMS. True, looking at some of the fine fellows is a treat, but it just gets sillier and sillier to me every year.....sigh.
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    Oh, the show is completely terrible now. Most people I know say that the only reasons they still watch are for Lafayette and for Alex (not Eric Northman, but Alex lol). Hopefully things will improve a bit this year now that Alan Ball has left the show. But I'm not holding my breath on that one. I'm just happy they've finally given Eric a love interest that is possibly worthy of him (or just appreciates him) in Nora.
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    Who watched last night? Without spoiling it for those who haven't, I will say it was so-so. More of the same mood and feel of season five. Nothing fresh. In seasons one through four, the season premiere always had an energy to it. I found that missing. Also, the show was so good at combining the absurd and fantasy with reality. You felt for the characters. Now, I find I don't really care.
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    The show is completely crappy now. I did really enjoy Eric this episode, showing his softer side quite a bit. And I still love Nora. I wanted Pam to get off her high horse and realize that there are bigger things than her in the world.

    Anyone else get a major Terminator vibe when Billith walked out of the building? Which was awesome because of Robert Patrick now being a regular.
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    Sorry but I absolutely despise Nora, she is a completely useless character IMO. I would much rather they had killed her off and kept the techie vamp instead of her, she was waaaayy more interesting. After what I have read about this upcoming season, especially for Eric's storyline and yet ANOTHER love interest for Sookie, I think I am done with this show. I didn't even bother watching the premiere last night and this is coming from a (now-former) die-hard fan of all things Sookie. The only Sookie/TB thing I am remotely enjoying is the comic book series Michael McMillan (Reverend Steve Newlin) co-writes.
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    I completely agree.

    What was obvious to me was Harris was "done" with the Sookie Stackhouse series/storyline. The last 3 books were a chore to listen too(I listen to audio books). The storyline was weak, characters were just a shadow of themselves and I was finished the series. I listened to the last two books back to back.

    I hope the slow dying of this series won't hurt other supernatural stories that may be in the works to start. I would the works of Christine Feehan(Dark Series), Shelley Laurenson(Pride and Magnus Pack series), JR Ward( Black dagger Brotherhood), Larissa Ione(Demonica Series) or Kresley Cole(Immortals after Dark).
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    The books made her rich and famous. The whole series took on a new life after the debut of True Blood. She might have at least tried a little bit.

    I didn't mind book 11, Dead Reckoning, but Deadlocked was awful and Dead Ever After only marginally better with a truly dull ending. Surely she could have paid someone to write it for her. Her writing style isn't exactly complex. Someone who had some sense of enthusiasm for the characters.
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    This week we learned Rutger Hauer isn't Warlow. He's Niall. Discuss!
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    He's perfect for playing up Jason's air-headedness. And great grandpa fairie-godfather knows about his hidden porn. :lol:

    I love Rutger Hauer!!!

    If they ever kill off Jessica.....I am done!!!! She is my favorite character on the show.
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    What is wrong with Jason? Do you think he might have a brain tumor?

    The more I see of Ben, the more I think he's going to turn out to be a bad guy.
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    I think that somehow Jason's illness is related to Warlow. How, I'm not quite sure yet (maybe he's a Warlow portal?) but it's related I think.

    I think that Pam is being way too much of a bitch. I loved Pam in seasons 1-2 but then the show realized how popular her sarcastic bitchiness was and now they really overdo it to the point where I just plain hate it and can't sympathize with her.

    Still loving Nora. And does anyone else think that the governor's daughter looks a lot like her? How long until she and Eric have sex? And that coffin scene was insanely sexy (even the episode's director said that it was possibly the most erotic scene he's shot).

    Really not caring about the Sam and Alcide stuff. I've never liked Alcide (orJoe), though.

    Loving Arlene!!

    Anyone else hate that they always have to somehow try to redeem Bill? He was evil Billith but now it's so that he can save the vampire race and blah blah blah. Kudos to Sookie for shutting him down, but they'll probably be in love again by the end of the season.

    Best part of the last episode: GINGER!!!! And Eric's promise that he'll come by and f**k her at some point (and that he keeps his promises).
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    Ok, I broke down and watched the first 4 episodes of this season. Surprisingly I am really liking it.

    I still do NOT love Nora but I do agree that Willa (the gov's daughter) looks a lot like her. I would like her to get together with Eric, since clearly Sookie is never going to appreciate him properly, and she clearly would. :)

    I hate hate HATE the way the show shoves Sookie/Bill down our throats. Why why why??? There is no logical reason why these two should or would ever get back together, and I don't think it would even be an issue were the actors not together in real life. Bill is completely unredeemable at this point and I think he is 100% responsible for what happened to the fairie kids and Jessica as capturing and keeping them was his dumb idea. I hope Andy kicks his butt next week 'cause he deserves it. Also, why would Sookie be thinking about Bill ALL THE TIME, so much so that Ben would overhear it in her head? I mean Sookie, BILL ALMOST KILLED YOUR BROTHER IN YOUR OWN HOUSE!!!!! Ugh. It makes me want to throw up. My husband is getting sick of hearing me say "those two cannot POSSIBLY get back together." I. just. DON'T. get. IT!!!!!!!

    When did Alcide turn into such a jerk? He is making Book Alcide look like a saint in comparison. I really hate all the weres right now.

    And for those who have not seen this week's episode:

    I would so rather see a Sookie/Ben-Warlow pairing than a Bill/Sookie pairing!!! Who's with me?
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    For me, it's the character of Ricki (sp?). We're supposed to have some sort of affinity for her as Alcide's gf. What an worthless beatch. Even though Alcide is sort of a douche in the books, the weres aren't a bunch of lawless low lifes, which is how they're being depicted on TV. They live in shacks and none seem to have jobs. In the books, the leaders are pillars of society.

    As for what was written in your spoiler tag, I'd say that coupling at least has some greater design. The former is just meaningless. I don't think it's being insinuated. Rather, it's simply placing everything in context.
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    I don't think they are.

    I'm assuming you're a fan of the books and of the Eric-Sookie pairing in particular.

    Right now, it doesn't seem as if the show is doing much in terms of either of these pairings. It diminishes my enjoyment of what the show is (or is not) doing to read fan commentary that gets so angrily anti-Bill just to support a pro-Eric agenda. I don't think pairing either of these characters with Sookie is very relevant to the current state of the plot.
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    I am a fan of the books, and am a fan of Eric-Sookie in the books. The show has completely ruined Eric-Sookie for me, though, to the point where I do not think it is feasible that they could ever be together. At this point I would rather see Eric with the governor's daughter, as at least she would appreciate him and actually choose him. Sookie's continued preoccupation and thoughts about Bill so far this season are completely unrealistic, IMO, as well as the whole redeeming Bill storyline another poster mentioned earlier that seems to be being followed by the writers this season. And I don't agree that the show is not dwelling on the Bill/Sookie thing -- just last episode (ep 3), for example, during her 'prayer' to Bill, Jessica even said that she thinks Sookie still loves him! :rolleyes: :scream:
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    The Jason/Ben shaving dream was hot....but hilarious. :rofl:
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    I think the depth of Bill's betrayal is what's driving Sookie, not the desire to reunite with him. When he said, "You're dead to me," and she said, "I'm good with that," it was probably the best moment of season six so far. Loved the Jason/Ben dream. After Jason had Ben's blood I was fully expecting it, but it was still a hoot.
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    Anna Paquin has recently said in interviews that Sookie/Eric is not necessarily done. But she's also said that just getting over both Eric and Bill would be difficult because there is genuinely a love for both. And despite the fact that Eric will likely be having sex with Ginger, Nora and Willa at some point this season, I don't think we've seen the last of Eric/Sookie. Remember though, to Sookie it's been only a few months since she found out about bill (a year longer than that to everyone else). You don't just get over your first love with the snap of your fingers, no matter the reason the relationship fell apart. Just like you could see, during the giving back the house scene, that she still loves Eric.

    I think that Season 6 has been really well done so far. I'd put it in my top 3 seasons of the show (after 1 and 3 and before 4 and 5).

    The Ben/Warlow reveal was (to me) a surprise but then I couldn't believe I hadn't seen it - it was so obvious. Like his 'vampire attack' - where was the blood? Kudos to Sookie for not hesitating to get him, though kind of rolled my eyes (but also thought she kicked ass) with using her feminine wiles to get him.

    Jason's dream was hilarious and his talking to Niall about it too.

    Is anyone else wondering why Andy has not approached Sookie for any advice about the quadruplets?

    And I agree that Alcide is a major douchenozzle.

    More Arlene please! And love the Ginger. I'd love to see those 2 hanging out lol. Nothing makes a TB episode more than Ginger screams.
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    Also, forgot to mention the absolute BEST part of the episode. The convenience store clerk was the same one as from the very first scene from the first ever episode of the show.