Triumph of Tamara Moskvina: October 14: Yagudin, B&S, K&S, Joubert, Weir

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  1. NONKO

    NONKO Active Member

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    The ice show “Triumph of Tamara Moskvina” will happen on October 14.
    It is the cerebration of the 70th anniversary of her birth.

    http://www.fskating.spb.ru/index.ph...21-10-24&catid=1:2010-03-13-12-19-47&Itemid=2
    http://www.diary.ru/~wazwazwaz/p164770664.htm

    Skaters:
    Alexei Yagudin
    Elena Beredznaya/Anton Sikharlidze
    Tatiana Navka/Roman Kostomarov
    Tatiana Totmyanina/Maxim Marinin
    Irina Slutskaya
    Oksana Domnina/Maxim Shabalin
    Maria Petrova/Alexei Tikhonov
    Yuko Kawaguchi/Alexandr Smirnov
    Katarina Gerboldt/Alexandr Enbert
    Natalia Bectemyanova/ Andrei Bukin
    Igor Bobrin
    Brian Joubert
    Johnny Weir
    Ilia Averbukh
    Alexei Mishin

    Place:
    Ice Palace in St. Petersburg, Russia
    http://www.newarena.spb.ru/afisha/#event/5031

    Date:
    19:00 October 14th, 2011
     
  2. Moka-Ananas

    Moka-Ananas Man's Ruin

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    No Plush? :confused:
     
  3. BittyBug

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    This show is a skating fan's absolute fantasy - what a spectacular cast. :swoon: Oh please, please, please I hope this will be televised.

    (Or I may have to plot a trip to SPb.......)
     
  4. Finnice

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    Wonderful cast!
     
  5. BittyBug

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    I wonder if Moskvina and Mishin will skate together like they did for Mishin's 70th. :)
     
  6. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    What an awesome cast! I wish I could go.
     
  7. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    Isn't Plushenko recovering from surgery? He may not even be in skating shape.
     
  8. julieann

    julieann Well-Known Member

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    I agree, I would love to see this.
     
  9. SVFints

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    A year ago a friend of mine on the show "Ice Age" Anton asked whether he (along with Lena) appear on the show:rolleyes: ... He smiled enigmatically and said, "We'll see":rollin:... Since I can not wait for this show:2faced: ... if the organizer is Averbukh - so show on TV:)
     
  10. Spartacus

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    Wonderful! I LOVE me some Moskvina!

    Let me fix that for you.
     
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  11. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    Bobrin & Mishin! Wow!

    Are all of these skaters connected to Tamara in some way?

    Alexei Yagudin - Coached by her ex-partner Mishin
    Elena Beredznaya/Anton Sikharlidze - Coached by her
    Tatiana Navka/Roman Kostomarov - ???
    Tatiana Totmyanina/Maxim Marinin - I always thought of them as her skating grandchildren, since they were coached by her pupil Vassiliev (actually, I heard she turned them down but was the one who suggested him)
    Irina Slutskaya - ???
    Oksana Domnina/Maxim Shabalin - ???
    Maria Petrova/Alexei Tikhonov - Did Moskvina coach Maria with Anton?
    Yuko Kawaguchi/Alexandr Smirnov - Her students
    Katarina Gerboldt/Alexandr Enbert - Her students
    Natalia Bectemyanova/ Andrei Bukin - Choreographers for her camp
    Igor Bobrin - Choreographer for her camp
    Brian Joubert - ???
    Johnny Weir - ??? (Well he did support B&S over S&P :))
    Ilia Averbukh - I wonder if she was involved with some shows he organized?
    Alexei Mishin - Her pairs partner
     
  12. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    No. Pet-Sikh and Pet-Tikh were coached by the Velikovs.

    I don't think some others you had a ? about were her pupils, colleagues, etc. They don't have to be. They like/respect her, and probably got to know her at competitions.

    Except for Joubert and Weir, rest of them are Russian, so I am sure they have known her a long time. May be she even helped them in some way.
     
  13. Daria

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    Let me fix that for you.[/QUOTE]
    It's incredible how some people here never lose an opportunity of being a troll.
     
  14. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    I agree, but it was fun looking for the connections.
     
  15. BittyBug

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    Isn't the reason Anton split from Maria because he wanted to move to Moskvina and she didn't? And oddly that split was actually very productive - Maria's next partner also became her partner for life and they both became World Champions, and of course, Anton paired with Elena Berezhnaya and they became not only multiple World Champions, Olympic Champions and Olympic silver medalists, but one of the best pairs teams ever.

    It's amazing to look back at some of B&S's programs and see how far ahead of their time they were with intricacy of their programs. The pairs spiral into throw triple loop, Anton's transition during their death spiral from a back pivot into a forward inside spiral, Elena's gorgeous solo catchfoot spin transition from their SBS spins into their pairs spin - its was IJS before IJS existed.
     
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  16. The Accordion

    The Accordion Well-Known Member

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    Holy star-studded cast Batman! Wish I could be there and really hope it is televised and then shared!
     
  17. julieann

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    I thought Alexei was coached by Moskvina when he skated for Japan?
     
  18. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    From what I heard, that was a part of it. Another reason (related to it) was that they were not moving up in world rankings; they were stagnant. So you are right; Anton wanted to move to Moskvina; Maria wanted to stay with the Velikovs. You also nailed it that the split worked out great for both pairs. It's a shame that B&S are not credited for being so far ahead of their time.
     
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  19. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    That's a great point. I have often felt that Maria got dumped or got the raw end of the deal, but you've put a new perspective on it. I don't think Maria and Anton would've become an Olympic champion caliber pair anyway, and even if they had, I bet Maria doesn't regret finding the love of her life/father of her child and becoming World Champ to boot. :)
     
  20. OrioleBeagle

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    No Ina and Zimmerman! :(
     
  21. Spartacus

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    Uhhh...I wouldn't be a good troll if I didn't...helloooo? smh:rolleyes:
     
  22. galaxy

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    I hope so. I really enjoyed the pair and smiled and laughed a lot! I was amazed how young she looked and how crispy her movements were!
     
  23. Civic

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    I don't think so. He mentioned living in Japan during this time and I don't recall Moskvina ever being based there. Of course this begs the question who was their coach (I can't remember his Japanese pairs partner's name) back then?
     
  24. julieann

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    It was Yukiko Kawasaki, I can't find anything about who their coach was at the time, must have been a coach in Japan. I know K/S were with the Velikovs when they first got together. I think there is plenty of skater/coach swapping at Yubileyny. I also think skaters get close to coaches when they all share a space no matter if they coach them or not. Maybe she just helped them at some point and not officially coached them. I don't think Anton and Maria looked as good as Maria and Alexei.

    They must all really respect her. I can't wait to see it! A great line up!
     
  25. easilydistracte

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    Yeah, people always seem to forget that Moskvina coached them, too! Would be great if they could get an invite.
     
  26. pumba

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    From what I read and remember heard in different interviews Tanya & Maxim approached her after leaving Pavlova, but Moskvina who, was busy coaching B/S and I/Z (who in their turn insisted on her 100% attention) for the SLC, declined. But after B/S retired she made an attempt to take them back from Vasiliev (which caused some negativity in their relationship), but the guys were already comfortable with him so they refused.
     
  27. ciocio

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    No :plush: ?????:(:wuzrobbed:wuzrobbed:wuzrobbed
    Why????
     
  28. VarBar

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    Maybe he doesn't want to risk his eligibility. Skipping out on the GP series but skating in shows instead would not reflect so well on him. My two cents of course.
     
  29. paskatefan

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    Amazing cast, but I would also love to see Kyoko & John invited to participate in this show.
     
  30. Zemgirl

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    But the Moskvina show will take place before the start of the GP series, and Plushy doesn't have any GP assignments anyway. Are skaters required to give a reason for not doing GPs these days? I mean, Miki and Yu-Na didn't, they just took time off. Evan Lysacek took a whole season off. So long as he's not bailing out on events to which he was assigned (as was the case with 2010 Worlds) why would it be an issue?

    I'm surprised Plushy's not part of this, considering his link to Moskvina via Mishin; maybe he has a prior commitment? I also wonder how Brian Joubert ended up in this show - there seems to be no obvious reason.