ToToToToT: Aranci, datteri! Pagliacci omicidi!

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by falling_dance, Sep 21, 2012.

  1. MikiAndoFan#1

    MikiAndoFan#1 Well-Known Member

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    Red panda.

    Best choreography: Hoot or Oh!?

    I like your username, pinkhulk. :)
     
  2. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    Hoot

    Tennis
    OR
    squash
     
  3. sbanet

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    Tennis :)

    which tennis playin' nation...?

    Russia
    Spain
    Argentina
    Chile
    France
    Belgium
    USA
    UK
    Czech Republic
    Slovakia
    Serbia
    or...
    ?
     
  4. falling_dance

    falling_dance Happy for Kozuka, Sad for D. Murakami

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    tennis during the

    1970s
    1980s
    1990s
    2000s
    2010s
     
  5. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    2000s


    John McEnroe
    Evan Lendl
    Pete Sampas
    Roger Federer
    Bjorn Borg
    Andre Agassi
    Novan Djokovic
     
  6. sbanet

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    Bjorn Borg.

    Billie Jean King
    Martina Navratilova
    or
    Chris Evert
    ?
     
  7. Buzz

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    Navratilova

    Holocaust books:

    If This Is A Man (Survival in Auschwiz) - Primo Levi
    Night - Ellie Wiesel
    The Pianist - Wladyslaw Szpilman
    Diary of Anne Frank - Anne Frank
    Hana's Suitcase - Karen Levine
    Escape from Sobibor - Richard Rashke
    Life and Fate - Vasily Grossman
    Eyewitness Auschwiz - Filip Muller
    Holocaust by Bullets - Fr. Patrick Desbois
    Defiance - Nechama Tec
     
  8. MikiAndoFan#1

    MikiAndoFan#1 Well-Known Member

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  9. aftershocks

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    Not bad, but NAY


    Actors turned directors:

    Clint Eastwood
    Robert Redford
    Ben Affleck
    Kevin Costner

    And I too love post #382 :)

    Re #383:
    Oh, of course not a criticism, just kind of a small dig, eh? Yeah, small potatoes, as Weir has definitely been accused of much worse, and as he's said before, he's heard a lot worse things said about him in men's rooms. ;)

    BTW, I believe Johnny was 11 when he was turned onto figure skating watching Oksana Baiul skate at the 1994 Olympics. After he began taking skating lessons, having graduated from practicing in the corn field behind his family home, Johnny had to make the momentous decision of whether to give up training to become an equestrian or give up training to become a figure skater. Not unlike the decision many young athletes who pursue more than one sport must eventually make.

    Yes, falling_dance, so you believe Weir made the choice to go with figure skating at the age of 12 because he felt it was going to be so "lucrative." Tell that to his Mom and Dad. At that age, most young skaters don't even know if their parents are going to be able to continue paying for ice time, much less for coaching and skating equipment, and travel to competitions. In the end, Johnny made the right decision, of course. He may have dreamed of becoming a star, but I doubt anyone who eventually becomes successful, initially made the decision to skate because they thought it would be "lucrative."

    Now, as for tennis players, another think entirely!
     
  10. sbanet

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    Orson Welles

    Fwiw, I think Johnny made the choice to go to figure skating after seeing Oksana in that pink-feathered get-up or as a voidy swan... ;)

    Circa late 1950's or so.... Tatiana Nemtsova (URS) as a voidy swan
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtiSRV4ydBM

    Actors turned directors, part deux:

    Ben Stiller
    Sofia Coppola
    George Clooney
    or
    Woody Allen
    ?
     
  11. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    Ron Howard

    WW2 books:

    The Longest Day - Cornelius Ryan
    To Hell and Back - Audie Murphy & Tom Brokaw
    With The Old Breed - Eugene Sledge
    Red Road from Stalingrad - Mansur Abdulin
    From Stalingrad to Pillau - Isaac kobylyanskiy
     
  12. falling_dance

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    Red Road from Stalingrad - Mansur Abdulin sounds like one for the reading list.

    the dancing in West Side Story: yay or nay?

    Coming from materialistic me, and considering the incredible expense of participation in the sport, it's not a dig at all. I have only Johnny Weir's appearance on Howard Stern to go by, in which (IIRC and apologies if I've misremembered) he made it clear that the boom in skating's North American popularity had a lot to do with the family's judgment call in making the switch (that and, of course, his unignorable talent). I don't doubt that his dream was based on more than :bribe:--he's too much of an artist for that to be true--but such worldly considerations have probably kept some of the greatest talents ever out of competitive skating. Perhaps he would've danced professionally instead. Anyway, for all I know, 50s equestrians from non-aristocratic backgrounds lived in hovels.

    The 1950s skating world was one which thought it a bad idea to let Mabel Fairbanks join a club and skate in Olympic-eligible competition. As much as I love the sport and appreciate the talents of Button, Scott, Albright et al, I can well understand why a conscientiously nonconformist artist and athlete would taking his or her capacity for dreaming elsewhere, however young one was.
     
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  13. Holley Calmes

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    David Winters-dancer as one of the Jets in West Side Styory. The short boy with the blonde hair. He's won a bunch of Emmies and awards throughout the years-choreographed for Elvis, Ann Margaret, etc etc....

    He's trying to produce a movie with several SYTYCD dancers...Russell, Brandon, and a girl who won in Canada....He's trying to get my husband Richard to come take photos-used his photos on his facebook PR. Pretty cool.

    So-West side story dancers....yes!
     
  14. Buzz

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    1. West Side Story - Yay
    2. Don't see another question...


    Ethan Hawke movies:

    Dead Poets Society
    White Fang
    Alive
    Gattaca
    Great Expectations
    Snow Falling on Cedars
    Training Day
     
  15. falling_dance

    falling_dance Happy for Kozuka, Sad for D. Murakami

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    :cool:

    Relistening to the Howard Stern interview, I see that I've made a mistake (another grain of sand for the towering oceanfront castle). I still find it easier to envision 1950s Weir onstage in New York than on the ice at Cortina d'Ampezzo. Le shrug.

    Gattaca

    Weir haters:

    Me (Hey, I'm even more surprised than you are! Who's the next target of my bile? :irina1:? :shizuka1:? Michelle Kwan?)
    or
    Homophobic men muttering lascivious epithets in ice rink restrooms, oblivious to the irony and their own obdurate stupidity?
     
  16. Buzz

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    By "me" I suppose you mean yourself my dearest f_d.

    Some highly recommended books:

    The Book Thief
    Memoirs of a Geisha
    The Help
    The Red Tent
    Sarah's Key
    World Without End
    The Kite Runner
    Atonement
    Cold Mountan
     
  17. falling_dance

    falling_dance Happy for Kozuka, Sad for D. Murakami

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    Why, thank you, Buzz. :)

    Atonement, which can join Red Road from Stalingrad on the to-read list.

    five of my favorite novels:

    Washington Square
    The Man Who Loved Children
    Revolutionary Road
    Mother Night
    Europe Central
     
  18. aftershocks

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    Washington Square


    Favorite Literature to Film Adaptations:

    Washington Square (1949 and 1997 films)
    Pride and Prejudice (1995 miniseries; 2005 film)
    Wuthering Heights (1939 film)
    Strangers on a Train (1951)
    The End of the Affair (1955 and 1999 films)
    The English Patient (1996)


    You materialistic, falling_dance? Ah well, Johnny may be materialistic too re his furs, love of clothes and glam lifestyle he seems to lead off-ice. However, he does have his grounded side having grown up in rural Pennsylvania to a normal lower-middle class family. Yes, the 1950s, fascinating era -- David Halberstam's The Fifties is a great read, btw -- also the subversiveness of Douglas Sirk's 1959 film, Imitation of Life. I can totally see what you mean re Johnny as a dancer onstage in the 1950s -- especially the fact he really would have had a much harder, nearly impossible time as a figure skater in that era with his insistence on being himself. ;) Back then you were in the closet, or else! Come to think of it, Johnny could not have been Johnny back then. Really would love to see Johnny on the dance floor -- wonder if he will ever get the chance to be on DWTS.

    Thanks for your further explanation re your "lucrative" reference. I think Johnny's conversation with Howard Stern was kinda akin to being in the men's room in any case. Lots of tongue-in-cheek, not to mention cheekiness and references to body parts. Johnny was brave to be on there. But I guess he's used to facing his fears and bearing up for a challenge. :)
     
  19. falling_dance

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    For me, it's a tossup between The Heiress and Strangers on a Train. I'll go with the latter because I haven't seen the 1997 adaptation of Washington Square.

    Best performance in the 1959 Imitation of Life:

    Lana Turner's
    Juanita Moore's
    Susan Kohner's
    or
    ______________?
     
  20. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    Lana Turner

    Brat pack actors:

    Robert Downey Jr.
    Judd Nelson
    Rob Lowe
    Emilio Estevez
    Anthony Michael Hall
    Andrew McCarthy
     
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    Re Imitation of Life actors, have to say Juanita Moore re the major roles; John Gavin and Troy Donahue in the supporting roles (Donahue was a young actor in a number of memorable tv series)


    Re Brat packers:

    Downey Jr. and Rob Lowe have had the most significant post Brat-pack era success, but I have a soft spot for Anthony Michael Hall :)

    Favorite Dustin Hoffman movies:

    The Graduate
    Midnight Cowboy
    Kramer vs. Kramer
    Lenny
    Little Big Man
    All the President's Men
    Marathon Man
    Rain Man
    Tootsie
     
  22. falling_dance

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    Midnight Cowboy

    Katharine Hepburn:

    - a fine actress
    - a great actress
    - what Dorothy Parker said
    - Purple Indifferent Me
     
  23. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    Purple indifferent

    Ryan Gosling
    Ryan Seacrest
    Ryan Murphy
    Ryan Phillippe
    Ryan Reynolds
     
  24. l'etoile

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    Ryan Seacrest.

    Modern Family of The Middle?


    (Guys, I finally got the paid subscription! I can now fully enjoy FSU, YAY!!!)
     
  25. MikiAndoFan#1

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    Modern Family.

    Ugly Betty: yay or nay?

    Yay, l'etoile! :cheer:
     
  26. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    Nay

    Former Olympic sports:

    Croquet
    Lacrosse
    Rackets
    Roque
    Tug of war
     
  27. falling_dance

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    lacrosse

    cuisine:

    Japanese
    or
    Vietnamese?
     
  28. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    Vietnamese

    Books from my collection:

    Beyond Courage - Elizabeth Chadwick
    Last of the Mohicans - James Fenimore Cooper
    Graceland - Chris Abani
    The Known World - Edward P. Jones
    Travels With My Trombone - Henry Shukman
    Winter Queen - Boris Akunin
    Sobibor - Michael Lev
     
  29. falling_dance

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    Sobibor

    October 15 people:

    Virgil
    Asaph Hall
    James Tissot
    Friedrich Nietzsche
    Jane Darwell
    PG Wodehouse
    Mervyn LeRoy
    CP Snow
    John Kenneth Galbraith
    Mario Puzo
    Italo Calvino
    Michel Foucault
    Tito Jackson
    Todd Solondz
     
  30. l'etoile

    l'etoile New Member

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    Virgil.

    The best year of world title win by Michelle Kwan, if you could ever choose :swoon:

    1996
    1998
    2000
    2001
    2003