ToToToToT: Aranci, datteri! Pagliacci omicidi!

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by falling_dance, Sep 21, 2012.

  1. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    Ron Howard

    WW2 books:

    The Longest Day - Cornelius Ryan
    To Hell and Back - Audie Murphy & Tom Brokaw
    With The Old Breed - Eugene Sledge
    Red Road from Stalingrad - Mansur Abdulin
    From Stalingrad to Pillau - Isaac kobylyanskiy
  2. falling_dance

    falling_dance The Scarlet Unlettered

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    Red Road from Stalingrad - Mansur Abdulin sounds like one for the reading list.

    the dancing in West Side Story: yay or nay?

    Coming from materialistic me, and considering the incredible expense of participation in the sport, it's not a dig at all. I have only Johnny Weir's appearance on Howard Stern to go by, in which (IIRC and apologies if I've misremembered) he made it clear that the boom in skating's North American popularity had a lot to do with the family's judgment call in making the switch (that and, of course, his unignorable talent). I don't doubt that his dream was based on more than :bribe:--he's too much of an artist for that to be true--but such worldly considerations have probably kept some of the greatest talents ever out of competitive skating. Perhaps he would've danced professionally instead. Anyway, for all I know, 50s equestrians from non-aristocratic backgrounds lived in hovels.

    The 1950s skating world was one which thought it a bad idea to let Mabel Fairbanks join a club and skate in Olympic-eligible competition. As much as I love the sport and appreciate the talents of Button, Scott, Albright et al, I can well understand why a conscientiously nonconformist artist and athlete would taking his or her capacity for dreaming elsewhere, however young one was.
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  3. Holley Calmes

    Holley Calmes Well-Known Member

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    David Winters-dancer as one of the Jets in West Side Styory. The short boy with the blonde hair. He's won a bunch of Emmies and awards throughout the years-choreographed for Elvis, Ann Margaret, etc etc....

    He's trying to produce a movie with several SYTYCD dancers...Russell, Brandon, and a girl who won in Canada....He's trying to get my husband Richard to come take photos-used his photos on his facebook PR. Pretty cool.

    So-West side story dancers....yes!
  4. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    1. West Side Story - Yay
    2. Don't see another question...


    Ethan Hawke movies:

    Dead Poets Society
    White Fang
    Alive
    Gattaca
    Great Expectations
    Snow Falling on Cedars
    Training Day
  5. falling_dance

    falling_dance The Scarlet Unlettered

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    :cool:

    Relistening to the Howard Stern interview, I see that I've made a mistake (another grain of sand for the towering oceanfront castle). I still find it easier to envision 1950s Weir onstage in New York than on the ice at Cortina d'Ampezzo. Le shrug.

    Gattaca

    Weir haters:

    Me (Hey, I'm even more surprised than you are! Who's the next target of my bile? :irina1:? :shizuka1:? Michelle Kwan?)
    or
    Homophobic men muttering lascivious epithets in ice rink restrooms, oblivious to the irony and their own obdurate stupidity?
  6. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    By "me" I suppose you mean yourself my dearest f_d.

    Some highly recommended books:

    The Book Thief
    Memoirs of a Geisha
    The Help
    The Red Tent
    Sarah's Key
    World Without End
    The Kite Runner
    Atonement
    Cold Mountan
  7. falling_dance

    falling_dance The Scarlet Unlettered

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    Why, thank you, Buzz. :)

    Atonement, which can join Red Road from Stalingrad on the to-read list.

    five of my favorite novels:

    Washington Square
    The Man Who Loved Children
    Revolutionary Road
    Mother Night
    Europe Central
  8. aftershocks

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    Washington Square


    Favorite Literature to Film Adaptations:

    Washington Square (1949 and 1997 films)
    Pride and Prejudice (1995 miniseries; 2005 film)
    Wuthering Heights (1939 film)
    Strangers on a Train (1951)
    The End of the Affair (1955 and 1999 films)
    The English Patient (1996)


    You materialistic, falling_dance? Ah well, Johnny may be materialistic too re his furs, love of clothes and glam lifestyle he seems to lead off-ice. However, he does have his grounded side having grown up in rural Pennsylvania to a normal lower-middle class family. Yes, the 1950s, fascinating era -- David Halberstam's The Fifties is a great read, btw -- also the subversiveness of Douglas Sirk's 1959 film, Imitation of Life. I can totally see what you mean re Johnny as a dancer onstage in the 1950s -- especially the fact he really would have had a much harder, nearly impossible time as a figure skater in that era with his insistence on being himself. ;) Back then you were in the closet, or else! Come to think of it, Johnny could not have been Johnny back then. Really would love to see Johnny on the dance floor -- wonder if he will ever get the chance to be on DWTS.

    Thanks for your further explanation re your "lucrative" reference. I think Johnny's conversation with Howard Stern was kinda akin to being in the men's room in any case. Lots of tongue-in-cheek, not to mention cheekiness and references to body parts. Johnny was brave to be on there. But I guess he's used to facing his fears and bearing up for a challenge. :)
  9. falling_dance

    falling_dance The Scarlet Unlettered

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    For me, it's a tossup between The Heiress and Strangers on a Train. I'll go with the latter because I haven't seen the 1997 adaptation of Washington Square.

    Best performance in the 1959 Imitation of Life:

    Lana Turner's
    Juanita Moore's
    Susan Kohner's
    or
    ______________?
  10. Buzz

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    Lana Turner

    Brat pack actors:

    Robert Downey Jr.
    Judd Nelson
    Rob Lowe
    Emilio Estevez
    Anthony Michael Hall
    Andrew McCarthy
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    Re Imitation of Life actors, have to say Juanita Moore re the major roles; John Gavin and Troy Donahue in the supporting roles (Donahue was a young actor in a number of memorable tv series)


    Re Brat packers:

    Downey Jr. and Rob Lowe have had the most significant post Brat-pack era success, but I have a soft spot for Anthony Michael Hall :)

    Favorite Dustin Hoffman movies:

    The Graduate
    Midnight Cowboy
    Kramer vs. Kramer
    Lenny
    Little Big Man
    All the President's Men
    Marathon Man
    Rain Man
    Tootsie
  12. falling_dance

    falling_dance The Scarlet Unlettered

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    Midnight Cowboy

    Katharine Hepburn:

    - a fine actress
    - a great actress
    - what Dorothy Parker said
    - Purple Indifferent Me
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    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    Purple indifferent

    Ryan Gosling
    Ryan Seacrest
    Ryan Murphy
    Ryan Phillippe
    Ryan Reynolds
  14. l'etoile

    l'etoile New Member

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    Ryan Seacrest.

    Modern Family of The Middle?


    (Guys, I finally got the paid subscription! I can now fully enjoy FSU, YAY!!!)
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    Modern Family.

    Ugly Betty: yay or nay?

    Yay, l'etoile! :cheer:
  16. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    Nay

    Former Olympic sports:

    Croquet
    Lacrosse
    Rackets
    Roque
    Tug of war
  17. falling_dance

    falling_dance The Scarlet Unlettered

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    lacrosse

    cuisine:

    Japanese
    or
    Vietnamese?
  18. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    Vietnamese

    Books from my collection:

    Beyond Courage - Elizabeth Chadwick
    Last of the Mohicans - James Fenimore Cooper
    Graceland - Chris Abani
    The Known World - Edward P. Jones
    Travels With My Trombone - Henry Shukman
    Winter Queen - Boris Akunin
    Sobibor - Michael Lev
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    falling_dance The Scarlet Unlettered

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    Sobibor

    October 15 people:

    Virgil
    Asaph Hall
    James Tissot
    Friedrich Nietzsche
    Jane Darwell
    PG Wodehouse
    Mervyn LeRoy
    CP Snow
    John Kenneth Galbraith
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    Italo Calvino
    Michel Foucault
    Tito Jackson
    Todd Solondz
  20. l'etoile

    l'etoile New Member

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    Virgil.

    The best year of world title win by Michelle Kwan, if you could ever choose :swoon:

    1996
    1998
    2000
    2001
    2003
  21. falling_dance

    falling_dance The Scarlet Unlettered

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    2001

    Best year of a World silver medal win by Michelle Kwan

    1997
    1999
    2002
  22. aftershocks

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    1997 (those were great programs -- she definitely should have won; plus she did win the fp) :saint: In 1999, MK was under the weather but still skated well, it was just Maria's year; in 2002, MK still skated great, it was just Irina's time to win; in 1997, TL was the wunderkind the judges wanted to win ;)

    Favorite Savchenko/ Szolkowy programs:

    Pina
    The Mission
    Schindler's List
    Send in the Clowns
    L'Oiseau
    Casablanca
    Once Upon a Time in Mexico
    Angels and Demons
    Out of Africa
    Pink Panther
    Korobushka
    Lost in Space
  23. falling_dance

    falling_dance The Scarlet Unlettered

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    Out of Africa. I just love their flawless performance to it at 2009 Skate Canada.

    Arthur Rackham or Aubrey Beardsley?
  24. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    Beardsley

    Violin
    Guitar
    Piano
    Drums
    Trumpet
  25. l'etoile

    l'etoile New Member

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    ^^ I looooooove Out of Africa, too! Its oly performance, even flawed, was the best for me:)

    Piano.

    Rainbow colors:
    red
    orange
    yellow
    green
    blue
    indigo
    purple
  26. aftershocks

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    Like MK, I think PURPLE is the color for me. :)

    I love watching everything S/S and S do on the ice. I think the above list is my favorite programs of theirs in order, altho' upon further reflection, I'd probably put The Mission on top, then Pina, and I'd move Out of Africa up a bit more. I have an idea for a program for S/S for the Olympic year, but I can't speak or write German. :( That's a verrry difficult language, even tho' I studied it a bit in college. I would love to see them skate in person and have the chance to meet them. I know Robin speaks excellent English. I did meet Ingo once, but it was well before he began coaching. Ingo seemed a very friendly, cool guy; he smiled a lot and was eager to engage with fans even tho' his English wasn't perfect. :)

    Favorite Languages:

    French
    Spanish
    English
    Arabic
    Japanese
    Portuguese
    Italian
    Russian
    Swedish
    American Sign Language

    German and Chinese are way too difficult (at least for me :shuffle:)
  27. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    French with Spanish close behind


    Soft tacos
    Shawarma
    Submarine sandwich
    Panini sandwich
  28. aftershocks

    aftershocks Well-Known Member

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    Panini (portobello mushrooms sauteed in olive oil w/ rosemary, fontina cheese, arugula and dijon mustard) YUMMMM!

    Check out this recipe book: 'Wichcraft: craft a sandwich into a meal and a meal into a sandwich, by Tom Colicchio (of Top Chef fame)


    Sweet potatoes

    or

    White potatoes

    and your favorite recipe with either ... Now, I'm getting hungry. :cat: :)
  29. MikiAndoFan#1

    MikiAndoFan#1 Well-Known Member

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    Would you care for some cat food? :2faced:

    Sweet potatoes! :swoon: We usually eat fish accompanied by sweet potatoes. :)

    Same question.
  30. aftershocks

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    Hmmm, if I was starving to death, sure I could eat cat food, but only the healthy kind with people grade ingredients, eh. I'll pass up the watery meat by-product mess sold in supermarkets and the dry pebbles, which aren't any good for cats either. BTW, little cats and big cats are obligate carnivores ... :2faced:

    I love sweet potatoes and white potatoes, but sweet potatoes are healthier

    Sweet potato casserole with spices, raisins and apples; sweet potato pie, french-fried sweet potatoes


    Salmon

    Scallops

    Tilapia

    Shark steak
  31. falling_dance

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  32. Buzz

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    Hotlix

    Grilled cheese sandwich with:

    Mushrooms
    Jalapeño
    Sautéed onions
    Sweet peppers
    OR____________
  33. falling_dance

    falling_dance The Scarlet Unlettered

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    Jalapeño

    first piano concertos:

    Chopin
    Liszt
    Scriabin
    Rachmaninoff
  34. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    Rachmaninoff

    Johann Sebastian Bach
    Ludwig van Beethoven
    Friedrich Baumfelder
    George Frideric Handel
    Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
    Felix Mendelssohn
  35. falling_dance

    falling_dance The Scarlet Unlettered

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    Bach

    Dieterich Buxtehude
    or
    Philip Glass?
  36. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    Buxtehude

    Philip Glass
    Leonard Bernstein
    George Gershwin
    Aaron Copland
    Duke Ellington
    Charles Ives
  37. falling_dance

    falling_dance The Scarlet Unlettered

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    Gershwin

    October 17 people:

    Jean Arthur
    Nathanael West
    Arthur Miller
    Rita Hayworth
    Montgomery Clift
    Les Murray
    Margot Kidder
    Howard Rollins
    Norm Macdonald
    PeterG
    Mike Judge
    Wyclef Jean
    Eminem
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    Rita Hayworth! :glamor:

    Pal Joey
    The Lady from Shanghai
    Gilda
    Only Angels Have Wings
    The Loves of Carmen
    or
    Affair in Trinidad
    ?
  39. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    Affair in Trinidad

    Cinema
    OR
    Stage
  40. falling_dance

    falling_dance The Scarlet Unlettered

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    cinema

    So, the new layout...

    - I like it.
    - I love it!
    - I can live with it.
    - I'm like Munch's screamer.
    - Some combination of the above.
    - Purple should've been redone in multitudinous shades of purple