Top 10 ladies' skaters from 1990-2010

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  1. briancoogaert

    briancoogaert Well-Known Member

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    Michelle Kwan
    Kristi Yamaguchi
    Midori Ito
    YuNa Kim
    Tara Lipinski
    Shizuka Arakawa
    Joannie Rochette
    Lu Chen
    Irina Slutskaya
    Yuka Sato (her basic skills are gorgeous)
     
  2. chabou

    chabou New Member

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    Top 10

    1. 4s

    Miki ANDO

    2. 3a-2t

    Mao ASADA
    Tonya HARDING

    4. 3a

    Midori ITO
    Kimmie MEISSNER
    Yukari NAKANO
    Ludmila NELIDINA

    8. 3lz-3lo

    Irina SLUTSKAYA

    9. 3lo-3lo

    Tara LIPINSKI
    Sarah HUGHES
     
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  4. Nomad

    Nomad Well-Known Member

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    Never thought I'd see Nelidina on a Top 10 list. Top 10 Crapova Sisters, maybe.
     
  5. withrespect

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    Lu Chen

    Midori Ito
     
  6. PUNKPRINCESS

    PUNKPRINCESS New Member

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    Sorry, double post.
     
  7. PUNKPRINCESS

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    In no order:

    Michelle Kwan
    Tara Lipinski
    Sasha Cohen :sasha1:
    Midori Ito
    Yu-Na Kim
    Mao Asada
    Joannie Rochette
    Lu Chen
    Irina Slutskaya :irina1:
    Yuka Sato

    Please FSU get more of these skater-specific icons, so many greats need to be represented! :encore:
     
  8. lukeanthony

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    My top 10:

    (1) Michelle Kwan
    (2) Mao Asada
    (3) Yuna Kim
    (4) Irina Slutskaya
    (5) Sasha Cohen
    (6) Oksana Baiul
    (7) Midori Ito
    (8) Surya Bonaly
    (9) Maria Butyrskaya
    (10) Shizuka Arakawa

    :)
     
  9. amaro

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    Skaters who gave the most impact in ladies' figure skating in the last 30 years:

    (In the alphabetical order)

    Lu Chen
    Yu-Na Kim
    Michelle Kwan
    Katarina Witt
    Kristina Yamaguchi


    Honorable mention:

    Shizuka Arakawa (first Asia-born skater to win OGM)
    Midori Ito
    Irina Slutzkaya
     
  10. Yazmeen

    Yazmeen Well-Known Member

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    Michelle Kwan
    Kristi Yamaguchi
    Midori Ito
    Irina Slutskaya
    Yu Na Kim
    Tara Lipinski
    Mao Asada
    Nancy Kerrigan
    Lu Chen
    Tie: Sasha Cohen, Shizuka Arakawa
     
  11. Nomad

    Nomad Well-Known Member

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    I only came up with seven. In more or less chronological order:

    Midori Ito
    Lu Chen
    Michelle Kwan
    Irina Slutskaya
    Sasha Cohen
    Mao Asada
    Yu Na Kim
     
  12. chabou

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    Top 10

    1. Miki ANDO (4S,3Lz+3Lo+2T)

    2. Mao ASADA (3A-2T,3F-3Lo,3F-3T)

    3. Midori ITO (3A-2T,3Lz-3T)

    4. Tonya HARDING (3A-2T)

    5. Kimmie MEISSNER (3A,3Lz-3T,3F-3T)

    6. Yukari NAKANO (3A)
    Ludmila NELIDINA (3A)

    8. Irina SLUTSKAYA (3S+3Lo+2T,3Lz+3Lo+2T)

    9. Sarah HUGHES (3Lo-3Lo,3F-3Lo,3T-3Lo)

    10.Tara LIPINSKI (3Lo-3Lo,3S-3Lo)
     
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  13. briancoogaert

    briancoogaert Well-Known Member

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    And Surya Bonaly ????? 4Toe, 4Sal, 3Lz/3T, 3F/3T...
     
  14. Jenna

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    So your ranking is only based on (sometimes cheated) jumps? :p
     
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    Top 10 ladies' skaters from 1990-2010

    U.S
    Kristi Yamaguchi,Nancy Kerrigan
    Michelle Kwan,Tara Lipinski
    Sarah Hughes,Sasha Cohen

    Europe
    Oksana Baiul,Irina Slutskaya

    Asia
    Midori Ito,Mao Asada
     
  16. Sabrina

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    Surya Bonaly,I miss her.Was her quad admitted?
     
  17. briancoogaert

    briancoogaert Well-Known Member

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    Never, but her attempts were, IMO, much better than Miki's. What a shame !
     
  18. bardtoob

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    Surya landed a quad that was more rotated than Miki's quad, then fell on simple skating immediately after landing, so the ISU would not ratify it.
     
  19. Nomad

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    Wasn't that '91 Worlds, where she was all tricked out like Star Trek character?
     
  20. iarispiralllyof

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    choking back my vomit aside, midori ito did 3 axel - 3 toe too

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKs7NFGnkOk
     
  21. judgejudy27

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    Surya's quad toe absolutely should have been ratified. Her quads at the 91 Worlds and 92 Olympics were better than any Kurt Browning ever landed and his were ratified. Just shows how the influence of the people high up in the ISU coming into play IMHO.

    That said I never saw her do what would qualify as even a decent attempt at a quad salchow. The ones I saw her try in competition were pretty much a disaester. Maybe there was a good one but I sure never saw it.
     
  22. all_empty

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    Surya's quad toe attempts were better than her Salchow attempts, for sure.

    She definitely had a terrific triple Salchow though -- great lift.

    I think my favorite combo ever was her split jump 3T half loop 3S sequence. I think she even tacked a 2T to the end of that once.

    That combo wouldn't count under COP nowadays since it would be called a 3T+1Lo+3S+2T (a four jump combination).
     
  23. bardtoob

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    Well, her skating was horrid. I did try to look past it while watching clips, but there was no getting past it. She literally fell flat with all extremities spread at the beginning of her 1991 Worlds LP while doing forward skating.

    It would have been hard for me to give Surya a trump card over Midori and Tonya in the record books when she did not have the skills to be called a ''skater''.
     
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  24. all_empty

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    Call me crazy, but if Surya worked on her basics and had the right coaches, she could've been great.

    She was athletic, flexible, and had great showmanship, even at a young age. I just watched her 1991 short program, and horrendous stroking and edging aside, it was actually an interesting program.

    She did make efforts to improve later in her career, but relied too much on acrobatics. When her jumps left her, she didn't have much to rely on. I did love her "Caravan" program from Nagano though -- played to all her strengths.
     
  25. judgejudy27

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    Well Midori and Tonya never even pursued the quad in competition. Had either I am pretty sure they could have managed it, but obviously with big titles on the line for both (moreso than a young Surya) it wouldnt have been worth the pursuit.

    I wouldnt look at it as her taking anything away from them. Nobody would think she was the best overall jumper just since she was the one to first do a quad.
     
  26. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    Midori won the Olympic silver medal in 1992, and the world silver in 1990, so she definitely belongs on this list. She was the first lady to land the triple axel in the Olympics (1992)- that's another reason for putting her on the list. Actually I would place her much higher than #10. She truly was one of the greatest skaters of all time.

    I pretty much agree with the top 10 list you have. I may replace either Oksana or Sasha with Chen Lu.
     
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  27. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    This is my top 10 list (it's tough to rank them, but I was tempted to)

    1. Michelle Kwan: best all around and dominant skater of her era, even without an OGM

    2.Midori Ito: she revolutionized ladies skating. Even without an OGM I had to rank her slightly above Kristi, who was a great skater too.

    3. Kristi Yamaguchi: I am more impressed with her pro skating than her OGM. Her consistency and longevity is unbelievable.

    4.Irina Slutskaya- Her athleticism, 3-3 combinations and longevity made me place her ahead of Yu na, who could easily climb up on my list in the next few years.

    5. Yu-na Kim: Her Olympic performance blew me away. I have never seen anyone handle that kind of pressure so well.

    6.Mao Asada: Two triple axels in an LP and one in the SP- I think many men will envy that. She has lovely posture, lines too. It's only a matter of time before she really comes into her own.

    7. Tara Lipinski: A very short career, but her Olympic title with the 3R-3R and the world tile a year earlier, plus the youngest skater to achieve those, give her my vote (even though I am not her fan).

    8. Shizuka Arakawa: One of the most complete skaters. Success came late to her, after many mediocre years, or she would have been much higher on this list.

    9. Oksana Baiul: When she was young, her artistry was amazing. She was always in a perfect position, and there was such heart in her skating!

    10.Chen Lu: After much debate I decided to place Chen Lu above Sasha Cohen for this last spot. Sasha may be the most beautiful skater ever, and she influenced others to use their flexibility to create pretty pictures on the ice. However, her inability to win major competitions made me pick Chen Lu over her. Still, very close. I did not want a tie for any of my picks.
     
  28. bardtoob

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    Some might :rolleyes:

    However, upon inspection with my CoP eyes, I can now see that Surya's 4T was two footed, which made it unratifiable by 6.0 standards. The tell tale sign was the way her free leg bounced up when she checked the landing. When I looked closer, her free foot was indeed still forward and hit the ice upon landing.
     
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  29. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Julia, Elena, Anna, Liza, and Vera

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    From a 3t landing you have to do a 0.5 loop to do the 3 salchow, so it's not a 4-jump combination. IMO it would be a 3-jump sequence.
     
  30. briancoogaert

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    I think you are right, even if I'm not a specialist about CoP for jumps !
    But the problem of sequences is the factor x0.8, so that this sequence wouldn't give more points than a 3T/3T/2T...very weird point in CoP !