The way they were

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  1. sbanet

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    Another Hungarian newsreel clip, although this one unfortunately has very faint sound.

    1948 European Championship - Prague, Czechoslovakia

    http://filmhiradok.nava.hu/watch.php?id=6652


    Skater IDs and rough synopsis of the commentary:


    Alena Vrzáňová (Czechoslovakia) executed a well-received program, took the bronze medal. The young pair Blažena Knittlová / Karel Vosátka, (Czechoslovakia) were a pleasant surprise, winning second place silver out of 11 competitors. Andrea Kékesy / Ede Király (Hungary) captivated the crowd and won the pairs competition. Defending 1947 Ladies World Champion Barbara Ann Scott (Canada) takes the 1948 European title. Gorgeous style of skating presented by Dick Button (United States) - almost without opponents, a high-ranking European victory.


    Some competition tidbits...


    The winning Hungarian pair also competed in singles - Andrea Kékesy placing 7th in Ladies and Ede Király placing 4th in the Men's comp.

    Interesting Slutskaya-Butyrskaya-esque Czechoslovak rivalry between 16yr old Alena "Aja" Vrzáňová (3rd) vs. her slightly younger teammate, Jiřína Nekolová (4th) - who spent the summer training in Canada as a guest of Barbara Ann Scott. Both ladies do well at the Olympics (Nekolová 4th, Vrzáňová 5th), and 1948 Worlds (Nekolová bronze, Vrzáňová 5th.) By 1949, Vrzáňová packs a 2 Lutz and begins to dominate. During the 1950 season both emigrate. Nekolová quietly obtains political asylum while training in the UK, skating 1950 Worlds under the ISU flag. Team Vrzáňová launches a not-so-quiet defection in London right after her victory at the World Championship. Both start their pro careers and join ice revues.
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    Svetlana Liapina/Georgi(Gorsha) Sur-1985
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGS0ExOrIPw

    Renee Roca/Donnie Adair-1983
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA0u0qaopxo

    Viktoria Dimitrova 1992(She was promising skater. Bulgarian champion for few years.Died at age of 18)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKRUiyOUNRc&feature=plcp

    Tatiana Volosozhar&Petro Kharchenko-2001
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUGrKruq2eg

    Mukhortova & Trankov-2003
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTR5l3hEX7U

    2004 JWC -EX
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYvzA5j6Rtc

    Anastasia Gorshkova/Ilia Tkachenko-2005 JWC
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlWNbI_ziSc

    Emily Samuelson and Evan Bates 2000
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cv97Bndj64&list=PL3ACE61CB694AB765&index=84&feature=plpp_video

    Leigh Rogers & Lloyd Jones -2007
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1A90QSWgTE&list=PL3ACE61CB694AB765&index=82&feature=plpp_video

    Pernelle Carron & Edouard Dezutter-2004
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETsWh9d-EC4&list=PL3ACE61CB694AB765&index=81&feature=plpp_video
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  5. vivika1982

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    double post :O
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    1948, Short fun clip of Valda Osbourne (GBR), Joan Lister (GBR) and Aja Vrzanova (CZE) training at the Richmond, Surrey ice ring
  10. vivika1982

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    Thank you again sbanet.There are more rare videos in http://filmhiradok.nava.hu .

    Pang/Tong-1999
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqN5ifpONE4

    Takahiko Kozuka-2000
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMTb8_EZ-gE

    Andrei Griazev-2002
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sktaXu59MOA

    Samuel Conesti - 2005
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O12HFvqJWP4

    Matthews/Zavozin 2005
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvErYzwUfTM

    Alena Leonova-2007 (like the performance but whoever cut the music did a messy job)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VANJ5PEeKCI
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    How about Joannie when she had braces?
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  18. sbanet

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    Big thanks to you for posting all those videos from the past, and great appreciation to those who taped/captured, collected and uploaded these clips in the first place. :rockstar:

    One last dip into the Central European figure skating vaults, a quick yet interesting glimpse of Czechoslovakia's National Figure Skating Championship, 1958. ...

    http://www.bbcmotiongallery.com/gallery/clip/48050473_3000.do

    First off, please mind the :rolleyes: Yank voice-over to this BBC Motion clip - recorded proof that commentators back then :scream: could be just as obnoxious as they are now. Just Ladies and Pairs here, couldn't locate a video for the Men's comp (Karol Divín) or the Icedancers.

    Ladies champion Jindra Kramperová goes on to place 5th at Euros and 17th at 1958 Worlds. Note: At that time Kramperová was (and still is) a renowned concert pianist. Here is a really nice magazine story about her from last year.

    Věra Suchánková + Zdeněk Doležal, the pairs champions, win with a :inavoid: creative and lively program that will bring them a second European title and a silver medal at 1958 Worlds. Note the death spiral... S+D are often credited with being the first pair to present this element in competition before the Protopopovs further refined it and presented their 3 variations.

    :cool:
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  19. vivika1982

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    Getting back on track with few more videos;
    Nicole Bobek-1990
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYTcgbmksvs
    6 years old Emily Hughes skating with Nicole Bobek-1995
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeSDFjOhvQ8
    Jill Trenary - 1986
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Hn1EJrHlhM
    Barbara Underhill & Paul Martini-1978
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP6qRyUO-9c
    Maria Butryskaya -1992
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wl9yRZOapKc
    Moniotte & Lavanchy- 1987
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GZYfJDacRI
    This was the earliest i was able to find for Marina and Gwendal-1993/94
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cnHLcJvSBs
    Jean-Christophe Simond-1982
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MxNgC74_18

    Rena Inoue-1992 competing as single
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9Pb_7d7sb0
    Rena Inoue competing in pairs with and Tomoyaki Koyama-1992
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcHcjucIWKE
    and John Baldwin Jr. as single skater -1995
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYb9YQDq7qA


    From the figure skating vault -Hilde Holowsky-1933
    http://filmhiradok.nava.hu/watch.php?id=458
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  20. ballettmaus

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    That is because they skated with different partners before. Didn't someone post an Anissina/Averbuch video previously? I thought I'd seen it around.
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    :) I already posted video of Anissina/Averbukh from 1990 but what i meant was that this is the earliest video of A/P skating together.

    Marina Morel/Gwendal Peizerat -1991
    http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTk2MjE1NTcy.html
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  22. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    How are you able to find all these great videos?! :eek: :)
  23. vivika1982

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    ^Simple Google searsh but sometimes I need help from Wikipedia and fsvids archives.
    The following video"Russians in America" is documentary about Linichuk and Karponosov and @ 0558 you can see 17 years old Natalia.
    http://ezar.ru/videos/45280/РУССКИЕ. Наталья Линичук и Геннадий Карпоносов.

    Another one from 1975(the announcer is stating that Linichuk is 17 but considering she was born 1956 she is probably 18 or 19 years old in this video)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLCN_kDdYRI

    Brian Boitano 1982-18 yeras old
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfOD5LsPZ9Q
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    Thank you for this one :respec:

    Jodie Balogh-Tasich and Jerod Swallow-1986
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeiXiCw1cMA

    Jerod also competed in pairs with Shelly Propson but I couldn’t find videos of their performances.

    Elisabeth and Jerod in 1989
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDn_KJR1ASg

    My personal favorite was their voidy (pre-Igor Shpilband) FD of 1991
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnbWb8mTXoo
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    They had to withdraw from the free due to her injury at the 1986 US Nationals so that may be why there is no video.
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    Gotcha :)
    I think I've seen a video of Ondrej Nepala several years ago (not on youtube though, might have been a video link or even on tape) however, that competition was only a couple of months before Trophee de France. It was their first season together, so you pretty much got the earliest of them together :)
  30. vivika1982

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    Thanks for the info :) I just wanted to compare because so far we've seen skaters competing as singles and in pairs in same cometition but not in ice dance and pairs.
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    Also, look at the results of the 1992 competiton. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1992_United_States_Figure_Skating_Championships#Ladies_2

    Who would have predicted that the 9th place finisher would become one of the greatest of all time and everyone who finished above her would never make any impact at all?
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