"The Walking Dead": Any fans here?

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by kwanatic, Sep 28, 2012.

  1. CantALoop

    CantALoop Well-Known Member

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    Michonne is a very intense, brooding character in the comics as well. I'm not a good judge of acting, but I think she stays true to the character (except her flimsy swordsmanship). I guess since they haven't elaborated on her background, people might not get why she's paranoid and mentally unstable by the time she encounters other survivors.
     
  2. PrincessLeppard

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    Okay, so I am as glad as everyone else that Lori is gone, but the whole "let me martyr myself for my baby" thing really irks. She already has a child who needs her, she'd had a C-section previously and had to know she'd probably need one again, but instead of taking the RU-486 when she had the chance, she decides to go ahead and attempt to give birth in a world with no hospitals.

    Meh. Bad writing, imo.
     
  3. BigB08822

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    Nah, I think it just fits in with all the other bad decisions Lori made and lived to regret.
     
  4. Japanfan

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    Yes, my immediate thought was she should have taken the abortion pills.

    But it is important to consider that a baby gives people reason to hope that life will go on - something to live for. This was seen right after the Holocaust, when people got married in the displacement camps despite being sick and hungry, and babies came soon after.
     
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  5. BigB08822

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    I would also think that it would make sense from an instinctual perspective. You want your DNA to have as much of a chance as possible to continue on and in a world where you don't know how many people are still alive, you have to think about repopulating the earth.
     
  6. PrincessLeppard

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    So, Rick is acting like a moron. Again. I don't buy this reaction. Grief stricken, yes. Stupid and catatonic? No.
     
  7. grimey

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    Decent episode. However, it will be hard to live up to last week's emotional roller coaster. So, I wonder who is on the phone? :watch:
     
  8. Buzz

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    The people from the town?
     
  9. AliasJohnDoe

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    Did I miss something? Is Carol really dead? They didn't show her being attacked, killed or anyone from the group finding her body. But they had a grave for her. I'm confused.

    She better still be alive. Her character's death deserves better than that.
     
  10. DBZ

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    Ewww. Were we to assume that fat zombie Rick found in the boiler room ate Lori's remains? It seemed to indicate that strongly, with the strands of hair on its mouth.

    Then again, it seems phsyically impossible for one walker to eat an entire human. Even two walkers didn't finish off T-Dawg. Plus, where are Lori's bones? Zombies can't chew bones.

    Something isn't adding up.

    I think it's a given Carol is still alive, but there is strong speculation on the net that Lori is still alive as well. Many are theorizing that Carl didn't shoot Lori after all (hence Rick finding the blunted bullet) and that Carol found Lori and managed to save her somehow, and they're both off hiding somewhere.

    But that scenerio seems even more far-fetched. How could Lori survive with so much blood loss? And even if Carol did come upon Lori, it's not like she has any tools to sew her back up and nurse her back to health.

    Thoughts?
     
  11. Twilight1

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    I personally hope they are both alive. I was actually starting to like both characters. I don't know how Lori could have survived though and Carl was too thunderstruck when they got out of the building to assume he didn't shoot his mom.
     
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  12. Stormy

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    The fact that Sarah Wayne Callies' name was still in the beginning credits leads me to believe Lori's still alive. If she was dead and gone forever, I'd think her name would be removed. I don't think that that walker Rick found ate her, but I'm not sure what really happened to her. Carol finding her and maybe moving her someplace more safe is possible; Carol hasn't reappeared anywhere so if she is helping Lori it would make sense why she hasn't gone back to the group yet.
     
  13. AliasJohnDoe

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  14. Braulio

    Braulio Well-Known Member

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    ITA

    After passing all what she went through and to finish like this? she deserves a better end

    I really can´t stand Andrea right now...

    And of course, it would be impossible for ONE zombie to eat entirely the remains of Lori, where are the bones? a couple of them didnt eat T- Bone and the guy was huge so...

    I loved the first scenes and when we discover the Governor secret about TheWalkingDaughter
     
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  15. PeterG

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    So nobody is watching The Talking Dead? They answer a lot of questions on that show. Lori is definitely dead. The director of the episode was on and he talked about how you could see blood from where Lori died and how the stain of her blood was left on the ground where the walker dragged her to get eaten in peace (or so he thought). The director also mentioned Lori's hair being on the walker's face and how this walker was bloated and could not move after eating a whole human. I think Carol was mentioned as well, no concrete info, but the fact that we did not see her killed and have not seen a zombie vesion of her bodes well for her. What surprises me is that Rick went back into the prison after a dead wife, but nobody went back into the prison to look for a possibly-still-alive Carol?? :huh:
     
  16. PrincessLeppard

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    See. That's why the Talking Dead irks me. The show should stand on its own and not have to be explained afterwards.
     
  17. Twilight1

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    I don't watch The Talking Dead...and really should lol!

    I don't get the fact Rick went after Lori either and there was no search for Carol. I mean Carol at least has a shot at being alive.
     
  18. susan6

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    I thought that what Rick found was Lori's wedding ring. She's definitely dead. (I will quibble a bit about the nature of her death....1. If it's a choice between baby's life vs mom's life, in a zombie apocalypse you save the one who can handle a gun and knows when to be quiet, and....2. Lori should have had a bit more time; would her labor have been that fast and would she have died that quickly from the emergency caesarian? She might have been able to hold on until they could get Hershel there)

    Carol, on the other hand, I'm guessing is still alive, holed up or trapped somewhere in the prison, and might be making frantic phone calls to any extension she can reach. (Or maybe the phone ringing is a figment of Rick's crazed imagination)
     
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  19. BigB08822

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    I also think Lori is alive. I wanted her dead so bad but now I want her alive again, lol! I bet Carl went to shoot her and couldn't do it so he just shot at the ground. The zombie could not have eaten Lori's entire body, bones and all. That just would not work. I love the theory that Carol found her and saved her. Remember, Carol was practicing on the zombies so I bet she got practice sewing them up as well. Of course, Lori was cut open savagely so I am not sure how she would recover from that (even if she lived, there would be tons of implications I am sure) but I think that is something the viewers could look past.

    ETA: I now see the mention of the Talking Dead. I am sorry but trying to convince me that a zombie ate every last bit of Lori's body is just ridiculous. Bones and all? That was a HORRIBLE choice on the writers or directors part. An entire human can not fit in that zombies stomach. He wasn't even THAT bloated.
     
  20. rfisher

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    I know Kirkland is changing up things from the books, but Lori is gone.

    And she'd have likely died during childbirth if she needed a c-section so it was a moot point.
    They've really changed up things with Michonne and the governor so no idea what's happening there.
     
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  21. DBZ

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    Was there a choice though? The way I saw it, Lori was a goner no matter what.

    Either way the baby had to come out, dead or alive. She was bleeding internally and wasn't dilated so c-section was the only option. Maggie cut her open with a dirty, bloodcrusted knife, with no medical training to guide her, so I imagine the incision was imprecise and messy. Not to mention the enormous amount of blood loss they had no way of replacing in the moment, and no tools to sew her back up again. All this being done in a non-sterile environment littered with risk of infection.

    I just can't see how they could've chosen to save Lori over the baby. Given the circumstances, the only life they could save was the baby.

    In terms of time, I would assume with lots of blood loss, one can die pretty quickly.

    If in fact she is dead, which has to be the only realistic scenerio, I'd wish the writers would give us definitive closure to her death. That bloated Zombie could not have eaten all of Lori's remains. But if somehow she is still alive, that would be ridiculous as well. How could Carol save her with no tools to sew her back up and no means to replace all the blood loss?

    Ah well. Guess just have to wait and see. :rolleyes:
     
  22. all_empty

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    Lori is definitely dead, confirmed by press interviews Sarah has done.

    I have hopes for Carol. They wouldn't kill her character off-screen. In my mind, no body = not dead.

    I met Danai tonight at a TV Guide party. First off, she is beautiful. She has a great smile. She laughed when I told her we never get to see it because Michonne is scowling all the time. She couldn't talk about the show obviously but I have a feeling she definitely has more range.
     
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  23. Braulio

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    I only would like to see Lori ´alive´ if that mean that Carol saved her or something like that, I WANT CAROL BACK!
     
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  24. Twilight1

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    I want Carol back too
     
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  25. kwanatic

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    I don't know, his reaction seemed on point to me. Devastation and emotional shock can fcuk with you in terrible ways, both physically and emotionally. Losing someone he loved but then hated at the same time...that's a big mix of emotions to handle and he couldn't. I've had the sense Rick hasn't been right since he killed Shane and losing Lori like that finally drove him over the edge. I'm surprised he didn't break sooner.

    Honestly, I didn't put two and two together when I saw the fat walker. When Rick walked into the room I was like, "Oh lord, he's about to find Lori..." but then all they showed was the blood and the bullet. For some reason my mind figured "Oh, okay they must have retrieved her body and buried it..." Even when I saw the bloated zombie, for some reason it didn't click that that walker had eaten Lori. I think it's b/c I couldn't imagine one walker would finish off an entire person. True, Glenn was always telling Lori she was too skinny :))) but still...that just doesn't make sense. I didn't even realize all the hair or whatever in its mouth...I was shocked when Rick started stabbing the stomach though. I hadn't made the walker-ate-Lori connection, I thought Rick attacking the stomach was him venting his frustration at the baby...that's why I was so shocked!! Now I get it though...it was his frustrations at Lori, and that makes it okay. :D

    OMG, how sweet was Darryl with the baby? I swear, if they ever kill him off the fans will riot!! I live in GA; I can find out where they film. I love how when he shot the possum he said, "Dinner." :)

    I don't think Carol is dead. In the promo they find her knife in a walker's head so she's still fighting. How has she not found her way back yet? IDK, I guess the prison is pretty big and kind of maze like. I think they'll find her...maybe that was her calling on the phone? It makes sense if she was lost. Why not call out and see if you get anyone?

    Andrea seems to be catching on to how effed up Woodbury is. Toothless zombie wrestling? Really?? And we thought Hershel was bad keeping his walker family in the barn...at least he wasn't playing dress up with them! He combed part of her scalp off!!

    I'm not convinced the Governor is just going to let Michonne walk away free and clear. I think he'll be sending Meryl and some of his boys after her. I think Glenn and Maggie are going to make a run into town...maybe they'll run into Michonne?

    I'm loving this season so far! Next week should be interesting...
     
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  26. Japanfan

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    Not to mention, Lori gave Shane reason to hope the two of them might get together again, which led to Shane getting Rick alone in the woods and then Rick killing Shane. And after that horrible evening, when the survivors had escaped to temporary safety, Rick took charge in a new a way and Lori just rejected him at a time when he really needed her.

    So then there was distance between them, and Rick wouldn't respond to Lori's gestures of warmth.

    All of that alone is a lot to deal with, add to it her unexpected death, it's not surprising he went of his rocker. Of course, the death was predictable. After all, Carol knew that a c-section might be required and was practicing. Hershel knew that something might be wrong as the baby wasn't moving.

    Rick apparently was oblivious to all of that, but perhaps that is understandable. There were a lot of zombies to kill, after all. And dealing with the pregnancy would lead him back to his issues with Shane, so maybe he preferred to just avoid it entirely.
     
  27. Braulio

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    I don´t know if it´s clear but, the baby is of Shane or Rick?
     
  28. Buzz

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    Shane's
     
  29. BigB08822

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    It is Shane's? I don't remember finding that out and I am not sure there is any real way to know other than simple math but Lori was with both of them very close together. Didn't she do the nasty with Shane the same day Rick returned? If this baby was conceived around that time then it is impossible to know.
     
  30. Buzz

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    I got the impression that Lori and Shane were doing the nasty for quite a while before Rick's return. To me it was strongly hinted that the baby was Shane's.