"The Walking Dead": Any fans here?

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  1. Japanfan

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    The governor is a psychopath and Andrea is sweet on him. She's a cool tough chick, but her taste in men is really questionable - Shane at least was the maniac you could see. This guy is the worst kind of creep because no one figures out he's a creep until it's too late.
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    This was a slower episode and I missed kick-ass Rick and Daryl, but boy do they know how to end with a bang! This is one of the few shows that can literally make my jaw drop. That governor (scene with the soldiers and the zombie head aquarium wall) had my jaw on the floor for the last 10 minutes of the show. What is that guy's deal? Are the people in that town really clueless as to what's going on?

    I thought it was cool they were using the Teavana teamaker. I have one of those :) I do think there's something up with that tea though...it'd be gross if they were grinding up zombies and drinking them but that guy is a nutcase so I wouldn't put it past them. Something tells me his scientist/tea maker is going to be the one to spill the beans on the Governor.

    Next episode is going to be good. I wonder who is causing problems at the prison? I don't think it's the two guards in cell block D...they just don't seem like the type to pick a fight Rick and the others. It must be someone else...perhaps it's the person who was watching Carol practice a C-section on the zombie?

    Can't wait til Sunday!
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    I think they have a clue, but are turning a blind eye. On the outside, chances are you'd be on the run, starving or dead. In Woodbury, they have all their basic needs and more met. So they look the other way so that they have security...and life.
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    I was so excited to watch the show live but apparently it was an only free for October promotion! Ugh- now have to wait to download and watch which is not the same. So far the show is so much more exciting than last year at the farm. Love there is more zombies and a heightened sense of danger. I am liking Michonne even if she does'nt say much. It will be interesting to see the Ricktatorship clash with the Governor's Woodbury. Like someone on another board said they are like the bizarro versions of each other. I just wish I could watch live :(

    And yes Andrea has horrible taste in men!
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    Geez. I finally catch up on the show and another of my favorite characters is dead. Or a zombie. Whatever.

    Please let Lori be a martyr. I find her annoying.
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    Whoa, that episode was intense!! :eek: Poor T-Dog finally got to speak this season and they kill him. I confess that I am not going to miss Lori though.
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    Wow. Way to (sort of) redeem Lori. Maggie (or whoever the actress is playing her) was brilliant this episode. Too bad about T-dawg, but he was never much of an active character. I wonder if Carol is actually dead or just hiding somewhere.
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    That episode was AMAZING. I have wanted Lori dead for a long time and yet they still had me crying for her. What a scene. I am super curious to see how Carl handles this. Clearly Rick isn't taking it well and will probably have a ton of guilt to carry around. I bet Carol is hiding.
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    Good God, Andrea is an idiot! :wall:

    And while we were robbed of a zombie baby, I'm glad they finally offed Lori. But RIP T-Dog. :wuzrobbed
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    Andrea is an idiot but at the same time I don't think she has the choice of whether or not to leave. It doesn't seem like the Governor (Phillip?) let's people come and go as they please. She might think she decided to stay but he would have stopped her from leaving one way or another is my guess. Now, Michone, I don't know. He doesn't seem to care for her and probably wouldn't mind letting her go on her way so long as she leaves them be.
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    Why is Andrea an idiot? For having doubts about leaving a community where she is safe and all her basic needs are met? For questionning leaving and going back to a world of hunger, danger and potential death? Keep in mind, she has no reason to think that the Govenor is some sort of freak...she has no idea about things that we have seen.

    At the beginning of the episode, the deer is dragged back to the prison and hung up, with the deer's heart left at a gateway. We weren't shown who did this, right? Was it our gang making a safe route to the outside world? (But hadn't they been outside to get the deer?) :confused:

    I don't get the group's priorities. They are collecting firewood instead of getting rid of each and every zombie that exists within the prison? :huh: I would have thought that would have been priority number one. (And priority #2 and #3, really...safety first!) While they get rid of all the zombies, they would explore the prison until they knew every square inch like the back of their hand. Which would allow them to know what resources are (and are not) available to them. To have stumbled upon that big room of food was stupid luck instead of smart strategy.

    And I still think that Danai Gurira's portrayal of Michonne is one of the greatest examples of horrible acting/directing in all of television. If Michonne thinks the Govenor is dangerous...what a stupid choice to make her concers so obvious. You never let your enemy know what you're thinking. Especially when you're outnumbered in such staggering numbers. Michonne would make the world's worst poker player.

    So we ended the episode with Carol unaccounted for...and Axel (the strawberry blonde prisoner left in his own cell block with Oscar) - not sure where he ended up...
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    Someone brought the deer and the heart to attract zombies. They left the gate open so the zombies would go into the prison. The gang had indeed cleared the entire place of zombies but this person brought them back in. I THINK the person responsible was the one in the generator room but would not be totally shocked to find out it was someone else and that the prisoner in there was just a red herring. It seemed like a lot of build up to have this guy only be shown for 10 seconds and then shot dead.

    I agree about Michonne being quite dreadful. Isn't she new to acting? She is just way too harsh. I think she is being directed this way, though. She just doesn't have the talent to pull it off.

    Andrea isn't an idiot for wanting to stay, she is an idiot for falling for a complete lunatic. No, she hasn't seen what we have but even when she does she will still want to be with him. Just watch (not a spoiler, I'm just being overly confident, lol).
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    Yup. Plus, she thought Merle was a good character witness. :lol:
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    Another great episode to season 3!!!!

    I wanted to see Lori as a zombie for a few episodes...... I was robbed. :wuzrobbed
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    She's not an idiot, but she does get attracted to very dangerous men.

    Presumably Andrew - having somehow survived the herd outside the prison - found another way into and out of the prison.

    Not much time has elapsed, perhaps only days. It's a big prison. And they need to cook their food and possible stay warm. And of course, the newborn is going to need his/her daily bath. :)

    One absent priority that has been bothering me for quite some time is the failure to make bows and arrows, or scavenge more crossbows or swords. Those guns can handle seemingly unlimited amo at times. And the noise issue of guns is ever-present, so why not focus on building a stash of alternative weapons? They do use other weapons, true, but still way to many guns.

    I found that stupid as well.
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    I'm still in shock over that episode! There was just so much going on!

    RIP to Lori and T-Dog. I've never liked Lori but I'm glad she went out in a somewhat redeeming way...but DAMN! what a terrible way to go! T-Dog went out a hero too. They were my least favorite characters but I'm sad to see them go.

    Poor Carl..I think he's completely traumatized but he handled it. Rick is devastated and appears to be slightly catatonic in the next episode. I think he may realize it's partially his fault this happened. The person who led all the zombies in and opened the gate was Andrew, the guy he locked out in the yard. If Rick had shot him, none of it would have happened...granted he left the guy for dead and who would have thought he'd survive, but still...in a round-about way, a portion of the blame goes to Rick and I think that's going to eat away at him.

    How about Hershel smacking zombies with his crutches! Awesome...

    I like the new guys...I think they'll be decent additions to the group. Lose two, gain two...*sadness*

    I hope Carol's okay...it'd suck if T-Dog died for nothing. *more sadness*

    As for Andrea, I don't blame her for wanting to stay in Woodbury. They're safe, have food, shelter, etc. so I get why she's not in a hurry to be rid of the place. The problem is she's so comfortable she's not questioning anything. Michonne seems to be a distrustful person by nature and she can sense something is up and she's right, but yeah...poker face. Don't take all of your suspicions and throw them at the Governor...smile say thanks and leave!

    I really didn't think they'd kill Lori off but it does show no one's safe...but Rick, Darryl, Glenn and Maggie better be safe! Those are my favorites...PLEASE DON'T KILL THEM!
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    Oh, Rick is absolutely at fault. He left that guy out there to die in a horrible way. He could have at least left him in a certain part of the prison or just killed him with a gun (which is showing mercy in this world). Rick played God and it bit him, hard...
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    Michonne is a very intense, brooding character in the comics as well. I'm not a good judge of acting, but I think she stays true to the character (except her flimsy swordsmanship). I guess since they haven't elaborated on her background, people might not get why she's paranoid and mentally unstable by the time she encounters other survivors.
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    Okay, so I am as glad as everyone else that Lori is gone, but the whole "let me martyr myself for my baby" thing really irks. She already has a child who needs her, she'd had a C-section previously and had to know she'd probably need one again, but instead of taking the RU-486 when she had the chance, she decides to go ahead and attempt to give birth in a world with no hospitals.

    Meh. Bad writing, imo.
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    Nah, I think it just fits in with all the other bad decisions Lori made and lived to regret.
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    Yes, my immediate thought was she should have taken the abortion pills.

    But it is important to consider that a baby gives people reason to hope that life will go on - something to live for. This was seen right after the Holocaust, when people got married in the displacement camps despite being sick and hungry, and babies came soon after.
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    I would also think that it would make sense from an instinctual perspective. You want your DNA to have as much of a chance as possible to continue on and in a world where you don't know how many people are still alive, you have to think about repopulating the earth.
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    So, Rick is acting like a moron. Again. I don't buy this reaction. Grief stricken, yes. Stupid and catatonic? No.
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    Decent episode. However, it will be hard to live up to last week's emotional roller coaster. So, I wonder who is on the phone? :watch:
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    The people from the town?
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    Did I miss something? Is Carol really dead? They didn't show her being attacked, killed or anyone from the group finding her body. But they had a grave for her. I'm confused.

    She better still be alive. Her character's death deserves better than that.
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    Ewww. Were we to assume that fat zombie Rick found in the boiler room ate Lori's remains? It seemed to indicate that strongly, with the strands of hair on its mouth.

    Then again, it seems phsyically impossible for one walker to eat an entire human. Even two walkers didn't finish off T-Dawg. Plus, where are Lori's bones? Zombies can't chew bones.

    Something isn't adding up.

    I think it's a given Carol is still alive, but there is strong speculation on the net that Lori is still alive as well. Many are theorizing that Carl didn't shoot Lori after all (hence Rick finding the blunted bullet) and that Carol found Lori and managed to save her somehow, and they're both off hiding somewhere.

    But that scenerio seems even more far-fetched. How could Lori survive with so much blood loss? And even if Carol did come upon Lori, it's not like she has any tools to sew her back up and nurse her back to health.

    Thoughts?
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    I personally hope they are both alive. I was actually starting to like both characters. I don't know how Lori could have survived though and Carl was too thunderstruck when they got out of the building to assume he didn't shoot his mom.
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    The fact that Sarah Wayne Callies' name was still in the beginning credits leads me to believe Lori's still alive. If she was dead and gone forever, I'd think her name would be removed. I don't think that that walker Rick found ate her, but I'm not sure what really happened to her. Carol finding her and maybe moving her someplace more safe is possible; Carol hasn't reappeared anywhere so if she is helping Lori it would make sense why she hasn't gone back to the group yet.
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    ITA

    After passing all what she went through and to finish like this? she deserves a better end

    I really canĀ“t stand Andrea right now...

    And of course, it would be impossible for ONE zombie to eat entirely the remains of Lori, where are the bones? a couple of them didnt eat T- Bone and the guy was huge so...

    I loved the first scenes and when we discover the Governor secret about TheWalkingDaughter
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    So nobody is watching The Talking Dead? They answer a lot of questions on that show. Lori is definitely dead. The director of the episode was on and he talked about how you could see blood from where Lori died and how the stain of her blood was left on the ground where the walker dragged her to get eaten in peace (or so he thought). The director also mentioned Lori's hair being on the walker's face and how this walker was bloated and could not move after eating a whole human. I think Carol was mentioned as well, no concrete info, but the fact that we did not see her killed and have not seen a zombie vesion of her bodes well for her. What surprises me is that Rick went back into the prison after a dead wife, but nobody went back into the prison to look for a possibly-still-alive Carol?? :huh:
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    See. That's why the Talking Dead irks me. The show should stand on its own and not have to be explained afterwards.
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    I don't watch The Talking Dead...and really should lol!

    I don't get the fact Rick went after Lori either and there was no search for Carol. I mean Carol at least has a shot at being alive.
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    I thought that what Rick found was Lori's wedding ring. She's definitely dead. (I will quibble a bit about the nature of her death....1. If it's a choice between baby's life vs mom's life, in a zombie apocalypse you save the one who can handle a gun and knows when to be quiet, and....2. Lori should have had a bit more time; would her labor have been that fast and would she have died that quickly from the emergency caesarian? She might have been able to hold on until they could get Hershel there)

    Carol, on the other hand, I'm guessing is still alive, holed up or trapped somewhere in the prison, and might be making frantic phone calls to any extension she can reach. (Or maybe the phone ringing is a figment of Rick's crazed imagination)
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    I also think Lori is alive. I wanted her dead so bad but now I want her alive again, lol! I bet Carl went to shoot her and couldn't do it so he just shot at the ground. The zombie could not have eaten Lori's entire body, bones and all. That just would not work. I love the theory that Carol found her and saved her. Remember, Carol was practicing on the zombies so I bet she got practice sewing them up as well. Of course, Lori was cut open savagely so I am not sure how she would recover from that (even if she lived, there would be tons of implications I am sure) but I think that is something the viewers could look past.

    ETA: I now see the mention of the Talking Dead. I am sorry but trying to convince me that a zombie ate every last bit of Lori's body is just ridiculous. Bones and all? That was a HORRIBLE choice on the writers or directors part. An entire human can not fit in that zombies stomach. He wasn't even THAT bloated.
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    I know Kirkland is changing up things from the books, but Lori is gone.

    And she'd have likely died during childbirth if she needed a c-section so it was a moot point.
    They've really changed up things with Michonne and the governor so no idea what's happening there.
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