The Skating Podcast - Upcoming interview with Frank Carroll

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by DBZ, Mar 31, 2013.

  1. DBZ

    DBZ Well-Known Member

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    Just saw this announcement on their FB page:

    https://www.facebook.com/TheSkatingLesson

    2 hour interview, covering Michelle, Evan, Timothy, Linda, etc., etc.

    I. Can't. Wait!

    EDIT: Sorry, title should read The Skating LESSON Podcast. Can an admin add that to the title. Thanks!
     
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  2. skateboy

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    Interview with Frank! Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!
     
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  3. FSfan107

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    I'm so looking forward to this! :)
     
  4. kwanette

    kwanette Fetalized since 1998

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    Totally awesome, two hrs with Frank!
     
  5. ChelleC

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    I cannot wait to watch this interview!
     
  6. caseyedwards

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    In 2010 it was ridiculous how his defense of an absurd win by a quadless technical regresser evolved into attacking anyone who disagreed with it as seeking to abolish everything but jumps and have jumping contests with nothing else. I was disgraceful and the worst win ever and if rules hadn't been changed quads would likely have vanished as they were already! His extreme technical ultraconservatism nearly ruined the whole technical progress of men's jumping where his student stopped even attempting quads in international competition and broke at 3 the number of Olympics in a row where winners did quads! Disgraceful and outrageous 2010! His career nadir and the worst year for men's skating ever and anyone who disagreed with it wanted nothing else but abolition of spins steps music everything!

    Lysacek tried a quad at nationals. After the Olympics said he was a totally complete skater without the quad and didn't say anything about being injured just being afraid but who cares because he was complete without one anyway!
     
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  7. kosjenka

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    Considering what Tim said about their parting in his chat - I cannot wait to hear from Frank :D
     
  8. kwanette

    kwanette Fetalized since 1998

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uS2nWLz-AbE
     
  9. Sparks

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    I hope Frank will be chatty and spills everything :)

    They should try to find out Frank's Hollywood name.
     
  11. overedge

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    From The Skating Lesson's Facebook page:

    caseyedwards, you are beyond ridiculous.
     
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  12. SkateFan66

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    I agree. Sad that someone has that much pent up anger over the outcome of a sporting event.
     
  13. caseyedwards

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    It surely was one of the most influential things in recent skating history what with the rule changes that came after and the 2013 worlds where you had more quads in both sp and lp than ever before! Very difficult to find quadlessness now and try to find anyone saying they are complete without quads! You can't! The issue of quads in men's skating has been moved to 3a style mandatory. 2010 Olympics men's winner was a horrible joke and just hard to find that anywhere even in Jrs. Jrs now are doing more difficult jumps to win jrgpf and jr worlds than what won the Olympics in 2010. You want to sever it from backlash over the ridiculous win in 2010 go ahead!
     
  14. SkateFan66

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    Why do you keep dwelling on 2010? You can't undo the past. No matter how much you pout and whine about it, the results of the 2010 Olympics will not change.

    You should be rejoicing about all the quads that are being attempted in competitions the last few years. Instead you keep spewing your venom all over cyberspace about Lysacek. What is next on your agenda, hand delivering threatening messages to Lysacek? ... Oh wait, you already tried that.
     
  15. caseyedwards

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    Where are all these quads coming from? Lol the rule changes encouraged them. When did the rule changes happen? With all their comments about figure jumping and jumping contests no one can repeat how the 2010 men's win in singles happened! Their comments and philosophy to win in 2010 never should have happened.
     
  16. SkateFan66

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    Lysacek won based on the point system in place at the time. Sit back and enjoy all the quad 'attempts' during the 2013-14 season. Because, after the 2014 Olympics the ISU will reassess the point system, and the value of the quad will be adjusted again. (Just look at gymnastics, Team USA dominated vault by having the most gymnasts that could do an Amanar vault. After the Olympics, the value of the Amanar was decreased)
     
  17. skateboy

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    Well, if the 2010 Olympics mens' result contributed to the rules that have encouraged this, shouldn't you be happy about it?
     
  18. caseyedwards

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    And the system in place was so atrocious it needed to be changed because of takahashi and plushenko who fulfilled all he right standards lost. I doubt that quad points will be reduced because everyone knows than they won't be done if the reward is not there. you don't want another takahashi getting no points for his quad attempt!

    No because the proper order was plushenko takahashi lambiel and the system robbed the right people of medals they deserved.
     
  19. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to GP & U.S. Sectionals!

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  20. Sparks

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    We know how you feel, we know your opinion because you haven't stopped for 3 years.
    Please stop. There's got to be a time that you stop, and that time is now.
     
  21. caseyedwards

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    Lol no. I will post on this topic whenever I please.
     
  22. Katarzyna

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    I'm looking forward to read this interview as well. You may like Frank Caroll as a person or not, but he is one of the most successfull coaches for single skaters and always seemed to know how to "play the game" in terms of politicks, etc. So I'm sure it will be interesting to read! :)
     
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    Whoa ... by now I suppose you've turned into a quad, since quads quads and more quads and quad-mongering is all you seem to live for. Apparently, you've sold your soul to the quad and its feeding upon the empty shell that is one caseyedwards. :eek:


    I don't think with Frank it has necessarily been all about "playing" the political game as much as it has been about passing down what he learned from Maribel Vinson Owen, as well as taking care of business in the best way he's known how. He's kinda cantankerous and sweet at the same time, but above all a gentle-spirited gentleman and no-nonsense taskmaster. When he says he believes in you, he does.
     
  25. ChelleC

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    Right standards? According to whom? You? I really don't think your opinion on the right standards amounts to more than a hill of beans.

    Why don't you just admit you are still pissed of, three years later, that your precious Plushenko did not win the gold? Everything you have said since Vancouver shows that you believe the quad is king. Well guess what, by that token you should be arguing that Timothy Goebel should have won Salt Lake. Doesn't matter how lights out, Alexei Yagudin skated, but your arguments Goebel should have won because he did three quads.

    BTW, if you're going to argue the most complete skater should have won Vancouver, there is no way that skater should be Plushenko. Takahashi was the most complete skater in Vancouver.
     
  26. caseyedwards

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    The isu rule changes made the strategy impossible. So the rule changes were all coincidental? Not by my standards but the isu rule changes. That layout can no longer even really be attempted as a win because the point possibilities arent there anymore. Short programs now have more quads than the 2010 Olympic free program!! If takahashi landed his quad the yes he should have won and then plushenko still with silver. I do not ever say most quads win but a quad must at least be attempted for the program to be up to men's standard of what's possible. Not any quadless nonsense. That can barely win Jrs now.
     
  27. hirshey girl

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    And along that same line, why were you agreeing with Plushenko's statement about Chan winning Worlds this season? I mean, Patrick did have 2 quads in the FS. According to your line of reasoning (quads being worth way more), Patrick should've won this hands-down no matter what else he did in the program. ;) But yet, you were agreeing with Plushenko that Dennis Ten should've won. Just curious. :confused:
     
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  28. overedge

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    And, apparently, wherever.

    But hey, if you want to spread your trollishness about Lysacek and quads in multiple places, and make yourself look even more foolish and obsessive by doing so, then knock yourself out.
     
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  29. caseyedwards

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    Carroll was the coach? He said the nonsense about "figure jumping." he tried to give Ten Lysaceks exact same technical layout but it became impossible to succeed with! Quads did not mean figure jumping but just being a part of the jumps like 3a needed to succeed.
     
  30. Iceman

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    You can still medal without the quad. If Ten had done another jump other than a quad in his fs at worlds, he still would have won the silver medal over Javier.