The Octopus and its Consciousness

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by BlueRidge, Aug 29, 2012.

  1. BlueRidge

    BlueRidge AYS's snark-sponge

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    Descartes was wrong!

    Scientists attest to the subjective experiences of Octopii and others:

    Octopuses Gain Consciousness (According to Scientists’ Declaration)

    (link includes really nifty Octopus picture)

    Scientists are powerful folks, issue a declaration and voila! Octopii are conscious!

    Next, Octopii have language? :rollin:
     
  2. Rob

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    That is one rocking octopus.

    So when these scientists say they "gain" consciousness, are they acknowledging that they might have had it all along or are they saying they now have evolved into consciousness due to new tool using behaviors? And what were they before - sucking blobs? We need a face sucking octopus emoticon.
     
  3. Southpaw

    Southpaw Saint Smugpawski

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    I've been lobbying for an octopus emoticon for years, alas....
     
  4. BlueRidge

    BlueRidge AYS's snark-sponge

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    :lol:

    I think the statement that they have gained consciousness was tongue in cheek--it has been conveyed on them by the scientists' declaration (that means if scientists haven't declared you conscious, you are out of luck :shuffle: )

    Science is just confirming that they've been conscious all along. And watching us. Particularly Southpaw.
     
  5. Southpaw

    Southpaw Saint Smugpawski

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    :blocjudge
     
  6. Rob

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    I saw a small one watching me once -- snorkeling in the Caribbean, it was camoflaged in a coral reef, but it moved and we noticed it.

    And if this Cambridge Declaration on Consciousness was just signed last month, I guess it wasn't just Octopii who gained consciousness.
     
  7. agalisgv

    agalisgv Well-Known Member

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    Very technically, it's octopuses--not octopii :shuffle:.

    Kinda sad it took scientists this long to acknowledge this, but better late than never I suppose.
     
  8. BlueRidge

    BlueRidge AYS's snark-sponge

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    Its Descartes fault!

    As long as its not octopie, I'm okay with it.
     
  9. PrincessLeppard

    PrincessLeppard Holding Alex Johnson's Pineapple

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    Octopodes. If one is being pedantic. :)
     
  10. BlueRidge

    BlueRidge AYS's snark-sponge

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    ah so what we are discussing is Octopodian consciousness
     
  11. allezfred

    allezfred Ragin' for equality Staff Member

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  12. overedge

    overedge where's the remote?

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    Octopi scare me. They look scary and they are also way smarter than most people realize. There was one at the aquarium in my city who was able to open screw-on lids from bottles and jars.
     
  13. Wiery

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    My father-in-law had one that used to get out of the tank at night and bring back the letter opener from my FIL's desk. He used trash his office every night too, until my FIL put the tank in a room that was octopus-proofed. :lol:
     
  14. shan

    shan Well-Known Member

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    :eek:
     
  15. agalisgv

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    Octopodes refers to the larger order of which octopuses belong.

    :)

    [There is actually quite a long etymological explanation for all this, but I think the stories on renegade octopuses are more interesting :rollin:].
     
  16. skipaway

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    I wonder if they have an octopus' garden to tend.
     
  17. rfisher

    rfisher At least I still have Pairs to look forward to

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    Tell me, O Octopus, I begs
    Is those things arms, or is they legs?
    I marvel at thee, Octopus;
    If I were thou, I'd call me Us.
     
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  18. BlueRidge

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    I get octopods as the members of the order of octopoda.

    Octopode seems to come from French.

    Octopii seems to be related to hippopotamii.

    Hippopotpie does not sound desirable.
     
  19. Rob

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    To me it is pulpo. With olive oil, garlic, and oregano.
     
  20. Simone411

    Simone411 "Bobcat Kitty"

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    It's been a while since I had seen this video. I'm glad it was still on YouTube.

    This octopus is considered one of the most intelligent in the world. Quite clever, IMO. :)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-LTWFnGmeg
     
  21. genegri

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    I call it sushi ... :slinkaway
     
  22. nubka

    nubka Well-Known Member

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    I'm still waiting for a barfing emoticon - it would come in so handy sometimes... :D
     
  23. falling_dance

    falling_dance Ignoring for Satan

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    Its inevitable overuse may be the number one reason why it hasn't appeared yet. There surely would be dozens, if not hundreds, of Trash Can posts composed of long lines of hurling graemlins.
     
  24. Rob

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    Hippo pot pie. :lol: