The Mirai Nagasu thread

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  1. PairSk8Fan

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    Mirai skated very well today. I think a couple of "<" calls, but she was near-best in TES by tenths of a point to Murakami. The judges are telling her in the PCS that the performance and program are not at the level of the SS. Maybe they feel it does not show off her skating skills enough to get all 7.40-7.60 like her SS.

    However, if pulling back on the performance a bit and just skating the program as if it were just another ho-hum run through at home means rotating and landing all the jumps and getting all the levels on the spins, I say do it! Fight for every rotation in jumps and spins and BEND YOUR KNEES more in EVERYTHING, and her PCS and TES will go up, and maybe she won't mentally lose it when the music is on anymore.

    Gymnasts do it like this. Maybe she can also to improve her results.
  2. Mirai4life

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    so happy for her! Finally. :)
  3. rosewood

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    Congratulations to Mirai :kickass::40beers:
  4. smarts1

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    Congrats to Mirai on her medal!! And which one of you guys rudely told me off, argued with me saying I was wrong, and told me she was done after NHK? :rolleyes: It's never over till it's over.

    And I'm so thrilled that Mirai only got one <! And on a double toe! None of her triples were deemed underrotated!
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  5. Sasha'sSpins

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    Awesome job Mirai! :kickass: Great fight back from NHK! Congrats on winning bronze woo-hoo! :cheer::respec::cheer2:

    Now upgrade that 3-3 in the SP, get it back in the LP, rotate rotate rotate and EXPRESS yourself!! It's not over til it's over!
  6. all_empty

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    Only one minor > and three level 4 spins for her in the free. Good job!

    All she needs is a 2A+3T in the free, a combo she's hit a number of times.

    Because in the end, a 2A+3T and 3F is worth the same as a 3F+3T and 2A.
  7. bronwynsings

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    I don't believe I argued with you but I definitely thought she was done after NHK. I am so so so so SO proud of her for coming back fighting!! Way to go Mirai!!
  8. smarts1

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    I don't think it was you, but it was definitely a combination of 2-3 people arguing with me telling me that Mirai was done. I hope you guys learn a lesson not to write people off after one bad performance.
  9. os168

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    Rrrrrrrrr ahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa......*fists beat chest* Tarzan style...

    Meeee Beegfan, You.... Mirai!!

    Big massive huuuge pleasant surprise! Sole US lady on the podium at mutha Russia!!! Be proud and be inspired Mirai! A completely unexpected delightful shocker! :swoon: Second highest TES and only 1x UR and 2 e calls? It is Absolut Vodka bloomin' Miraicle!

    Please hang onto the mission of 3rd Olympic spot for dear life Mirai, and don't you ever EVER let it go!!! And for Elvis's sake add some grace lightening to your performance, wake up from that Miraicoma, :kickass: some Gracie/Ashley/Agnes ladies soon, you are more talented than many 'contenders' and please for goodness sake give us some proper Bond Thrill! Femme Fatale don't have to be that straight and boring, you are clearly mixing up your genres, this ain't some FBI girl, this iz BOND!!!! [See Yuna Kim Olympic SP 2010] Maybe you were trying your hardest doing your Diane Rigg thespian impression to not crack as smile, but really it need some bang up to date pizazz ala Spice Girls style! DOooooo something wild, mad, fun, spicy and bring that unique Mirai Spice spark you have in you somewhere!!! It ain't over until it is over baby! US Nationals... i will be watching you!!!
  10. smarts1

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    Just watched Mirai's LP. All I can say is wow. All of her triples were fully rotated. Nothing even borderline <. The last time we've seen that was at 2011 4CCs and the 2010 Olympics! She's really putting in the work. It's obvious. They've really worked on making her go into the rotation quicker rather than delaying them as much. Just put more life into your performances Mirai!

    What's interesting is her technical score tracker went all they way up to 61.44, but went down to 57.95 by the time her scores came out!
  11. Spun Silver

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    Post of the year! :rofl: :respec: :biggrinbo

    Please mail it to her.
  12. Spun Silver

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    I was never rude to you but I was ready to give up on her after NHK and I am happy to eat crow. You were right. I was wrong. Hurray!

    You are the one who pointed out her pattern of doing badly at her first GP and medalling at the second, right? Hats off.
  13. Jarrett

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    Maybe the training in Japan really helped. Maybe she can train there until Nationals. lol
  14. Karpenko

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    Something about the Olympics really lights a fire under her. :D Technically it shouldn't be possible to be THAT MUCH improved in two weeks... But she was. :) The jumps were like an off-season difference in quality. With the way this season is shaping up in the US, she's a contender again for the team. But this next month, every single day, every minute spent in training, REALLY REALLY MATTERS. I love you no matter what Mirai, but gurrrrrl you need to werk. :cheer2:
  15. Coco

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    In the press conference after Rostelcom, she said "some people" had spoken to her about commitment after NHK and she wanted to show she's committed to the sport.

    So, um, to improve that much in 2 weeks means that she was underachieving 2 weeks earlier. But we knew that :)

    Good for her, so much to be proud of. Sometimes fighting through when you are not at the top - but used to be - takes more strength than handling the pressure of being #1. I hope she realizes what she achieved this week and is proud of herself.
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    ^I'm with you, Coco. Especially about what she said in the press conf.
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  17. Sasha'sSpins

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    'Wake up from the Miraicoma'! Love it!! :rofl: And you're right - it's a Miraicle!!

    Please say you'll tweet your post to Mirai - STAT! She'll know it's meant with love! :D

    ^^^
    THIS!

    I'm wondering if Mirai's boot issues just before NHK were resolved and it was a part of why she jumped better at COR? What I mean is, Mirai never really came out and said AFAIK that the new boots which she was trying to break in just a few days before Rostelecom were the reason that she didn't do well at NHK.

    I just hope that the USFS gives Mirai a chance if she nails her programs at Nationals. I don't want to see skaters who fall, etc. held up over her if she does great. I'm still afraid it might happen.
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  18. Jarrett

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  19. paskatefan

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    Many congrats to Mirai! :encore:
  20. giselle23

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    Just looking at that exhibition, I have to ask, who is skating better than this currently? I read somewhere that Adam Rippon choreographed it.
  21. smarts1

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    ^ I really wish she could bring some of that into her competitive programs... Mirai just doesn't feel the music like she used to back in 2010.
  22. IceAlisa

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    I think she still does. If you have the ability to feel the music, it doesn't just disappear. I think she is stressed on the ice and is not able to project and interpret like she used to. Still fighting her demons. Very hopeful that she realizes her talent. She is such a pleasure to watch when she is on.
  23. Dr.Siouxs

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    So she got a bronze at COR. Meh, good enough.

    Mirai for Sochi :mitchell:
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  24. RoseAugust

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    I've always been a huge fan of Mirai and am so thrilled with her skating this past weekend. I'm really hoping she'll make the Olympic team.
  25. Triple Butz

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    I am really impressed with the improved technique on her jumps last weekend, but she REALLY needs to get her personality going again. She can be such an engaging performer when she wants to be and her team desperately needs to start bringing that out in her again. I hope she continues after Sochi, regardless of whether or not she makes the team, I still think she has a lot to offer and she's only 20. Next season, she needs to think about getting that 3sal back. If your name isn't Yuna Kim, you can't afford to skip a triple anymore IMO.
  26. olympic

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    She really seemed to come alive in the last 5 elements of her LP at CoR. You could almost feel it just watching on TV. I'm fine w/ a team consisting of Wagner and Gold but with Czisny gone, I'm really pulling for Nagasu
  27. Sasha'sSpins

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    If Adam choreographed it then the boy has skillz! He needs to choreograph Mirai's competitive programs too!
    Good enough for me too! Mirai for Sochi!! :mitchell:

    Whole post!! ITA with each point that you brought up! Mirai needs to keep improving her technique, start showing her sparkling personality again on the ice, keep skating after Sochi!, and get that 3S back! She used to do a good one, I don't know what happened there!

    She also needs to get a 3-3 back into her LP (preferrably 3Lz-3T or 3F-3T) to go along with her 2A-3T.
  28. Coco

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    You know...that gorgeous exhibition can't be reworked into an SP because that lovely spin she does in the beginning would be lost, and it just sets off the whole program so beautifully. Without it, the program wouldn't be the same. Sorry to be a bucket of cold water :(
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    Surely the choreographer could re-work it into a gorgeous competitive piece just the same.
  30. Karpenko

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    I'm on board from here on out too, I never really left except for 2 weeks being frustrated after NHK... And she let me have it. :shuffle: I want her to not only make the team but rise to a medal, why not? She's good enough, and she did it in 2010. She just needs more conditioning and lots and lots of run-throughs, the judges will be like oh yeah we remember you, here are your 8's we've been saving. Her flexibility is back to where it used to be, and there's lots and lots of potential Mirai moments she's not bringing to life in both the SP and the LP you can see it in the choreography, that will come alive with better conditioning and she's not just trying to get through the elements with good quality. It's all in the face and upper-body posture when she's selling it, over 1 full mark in PCS difference when she does too, IMO. :lol:

    Anyways good vibes she's on her way, I would hope she maybe does some kind of send-off type skate to show her training before Nationals if she doesn't have a competition planned, she needs maybe just one more strong showing in the public to be able to really let loose and not think her way through at Nationals IMO.
  31. Cheylana

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    Good for Mirai grabbing that bronze, but I just can't get my hopes up for Natonals :fragile:
  32. IceAlisa

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    Better not to, that way you may be pleasantly surprised.
  33. Sasha'sSpins

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    I like this idea but are is there another competition out there where Mirai could compete before Nationals?
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    I like Mirai, bc of the contenders other than Ashley, she could maybe grab a medal, especially at worlds, if it is watered down especially and if she has an inspired skate.
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    Yeah, I'd just be happy within no under rotations and all planned elements executed. I don't care if I see "spark" as long as I see the results of sweat.
  36. Jarrett

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    A triple triple in the long doesn't help her until she starts doing the salchow or triple axel since they limited the number of double axels you can do. Maybe next year. Her axel in the short was beautiful.
  37. olympic

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    Forgot to mention - I'm hoping she nails a 2a-3t. It was probably planned in the RC LP, but you could see in slo-mo that she landed the 2a a little off balance and her blade slightly wobbled to her right. Perhaps during this down time, she should try a 3toe - 2a sequence or just make the final jumping pass a 3toe. She needs 6 triples since she's not doing a 3sal and yes, for me, it's a mystery why she got rid of the 3sal back in '09 and never brought it back. I suppose it has to do with keeping her programs simpler for her, but maybe with all her hard work, it would be doable again?
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    I always wondered about that too!She really had a nice 3S back then..
    I simply hope she got a bit of a confidence builder after this competition, I wonder how "important"it would be for her to nail a 3F/3T in the SP at Nationals versus a 3T/3T?I think it is a good sign that the first time she tried the 3T/3T this season, it got counted.I would love her to go for a 3F/3T but only if she really nails it in training and still, I would be worried of an UR and/or an edge call..
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  39. Sasha'sSpins

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    Oh pooh, I forgot about that! I truly hope Mirai stays in whether she makes the Sochi team or not and works on her edges/lutz/flip and gets that salchow back! Back to basics might to do the trick.
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