The Joshua and Jason Uber Thread!

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  1. misskarne

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    It's a Junior Worlds reunion! :lol:

    Maybe Josh can convince Jason to get Twitter while he's there :p

    I'm hanging out for Glacier Falls too, I really hope Josh will be there, I'm dying to see his new SP :) Maybe he's hiding his quad? :p

    Glacier Falls will be worth me getting up at stupid o'clock for with both Jason and Josh if that's the case. ;)
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    Kiri Baga agrees :) https://twitter.com/#!/KiriBaga ...also, steamed soymilk? Really Jason? Guess it's good to know he's healthy. I wonder if he's a vegan?

    And I seriously hope Josh is hiding the quad, that would be AWESOME, and if he is, I totally think he can win silver at Nationals this season...
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    My immediate concern when I saw the tweet about steamed soymilk was "oh my, I hope he's not excessively worried about his weight..." I think Jason has a pretty sensible head on his shoulders, but it's a little unnerving.

    However, agreed with Kiri, Jason needs Twitter, bug him Kiri :p

    Silver? :p I'm going the whole hog. What's the record for the youngest US men's champion? ;)

    This is me in off-season mode: wildly optimistic. :lol:
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    Abbott and Farris are my dream Worlds team for the USA this season. :swoon:
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    That would be lovely :swoon: and if Johnny weren't coming back, I'd actually say there's a decent chance of that happening. My dream team for the 2014 Olympics is Jeremy, Josh, and Ricky and then for 2018 Jason, Josh, and Nathan!
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    Joshua and Jeremy for Worlds

    Jason and Johnny for 4CCs

    It's a J-fest! :lol:

    I would seriously enjoy seeing both Joshua and Jason beat Johnny at Nats. Especially after the little remark about the US Men's field being weak from Johnny. That had me steamed. :mad:

    Not bad dream teams! My only problem with having four men to support is that there aren't enough Olympic titles to go around! :shuffle:
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    Well, if Jason gets his 3a consistent and Ricky continues to kind of implode in competition (well, even if he doesn't if Jason gets his 3a consistent), I would ideally put Jason on both the 2014 and 2018 Olympic teams :D :swoon:. Then he and Josh could be on two Olympic teams together...just like two other guys we know ;) :p.

    As for the soymilk...Jason sort of seems like a crunchy, hippy type of kid to me so I wouldn't be surprised if he was all into organic and natural foods, like soymilk. I'd be surprised if it was a diet type of thing, I mean, I don't think most figure skaters, yes even the male ones, eat a lot of fast food or dig into huge meaty meals all the time, but I mean, if he's really 130 pounds then he realistically probably wants to gain, as opposed to lose, weight. At least I hope so.
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    :lol: That would be fabulous if they both made it to 2014. But such a dilemma! They only give out three medals at the Olympics! :p

    Jason is already putting up impressive numbers with no 3A or fallen 3A, so I can only imagine that once he starts landing it his numbers will skyrocket. And all of his toe jumps are just lovely (although he comes dangerously close to flutzing at times), so I don't think a quad will be too difficult for him.

    I can't wait to see Josh's quad. Hint hint, nudge nudge Josh! :lol:

    Jason is crunchy? :lol: How would you know, have you taken a nibble? :p lol sorry I've just never heard that term used in this context!

    I would like to think he's just being extra-healthy. Except in muscle mass, I think Jason's at a pretty good weight right now...or he was the last time I saw pictures/video...again, hint hint, nudge nudge, Jason! ;) In the videos from the YAS Jason looks physically about the same as he did at JW, maybe a little bigger across the chest, but nothing major. He doesn't look exceptionally skinny, but he doesn't look overly bulky either. So, hopefully he's not worried about it. /mother hen mode

    Now I'm just looking forward to some new costumes! :swoon: Both of them have had pretty good costumes so far across their careers - nothing completely :yikes: worthy. My favourites are their SP costumes from last season.
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    Josh's SP costume was better once he got the baby blue blouse with the frilly sleeve. It was looser which made his shoulders look broader and detracted from the high waisted cut of the pants. I actually liked both of their FS costumes better tbh. I wasn't crazy about the weird collar on Jason's SP outfit.

    And crunchy? Really, it's a common word here in the states. It basically means generally liberal, hippy-ish, natural, into organic and green things, etc.
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    Oh yes, I definitely meant Josh's baby-blue shirt. He should just wear blue forever. I'm sure I said that before :lol:. I think the high-waisted pants are a good look on him, they emphasise the length of his legs without making them look like "bambi legs" as you put it :lol:.

    I did like the collar on Jason's SP costume, but maybe that's because I'm partial to some man-cleavage :lol:

    How interesting! I've never heard the word used in that context. Maybe I'm just not up on modern lingo, or else it hasn't made it down under yet! :lol:
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    :lol: Man cleavage...can't say I'm used to hearing that a lot! And Josh's bambi leg stage was more during his novice and junior years, although he had nothing on Lysacek at that age (can you say GANGLY? :p). And yes, blue shirts to bring out the blue in his eyes, it makes him look like Prince Eric (the cartoon from The Little Mermaid :p) on ice. See the resemblance http://www.squarehippies.com/images/movies/the_little_mermaid/prince_eric9.jpg ? (yes I am aware I sound utterly ridiculous, but especially when his hair was longer at junior worlds, I was feeling this connection, he should keep it in mind if he ever wants to do Disney on Ice haha :D).

    And yeah it's probably just an American slang term, you Aussies have a lot of your own! But I do get the nature boy vibe from Jason, idk why. And on the topic of disney, I think Jason most resembles John Rolfe http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs7/i/2005/252/6/f/John_Rolfe_by_AladdinsFan.jpg.

    Clearly I have too much time on my hands...
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    Oh my goodness, the boys as Disney princes...very looky-likey! :lol: I won't ever be able to unsee that! :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: Well now...I have red hair like Ariel ;) :p
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    I am definitely jumping on the Joshua luv train. He is becoming a fave
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    Me too, I always recognized his potential as a young skater but he was kind of boring and slow, awkward, and windmill-arm-ish under Tom Z...no more! His programs last season were fabulous! Even the Transformers program that he ended up dumping he pulled off nicely. Very versatile, elegant skater, and Damon Allen has done a good job with his choreo, showing off his long, clean elegant lines and flexibility without it being OTT. Johnny described his portrayal of Clare De Lune as "romantic" and "free" and I think he was spot on, I think that's part of what makes Josh's skating stand out, he is classical and elegant and romantic, but still masculine and his programs simple. As much as I love Jeremy I sometimes feel he tries too hard to be artistic and it comes off as a bit new-age melodramatic and pretentious, but I don't get this feeling ever when Josh skates, even to a piece like Claire De Lune. Can't wait until he announces his new SP music!! I'd love it to be soft and subtle like Clare De Lune, but it could also be interesting to see him go in a different direction.

    Are both boys signed up to compete at Glacier Falls? Or won't we know for sure until later?
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    Joshua tweeted:

    "Going to Dallas because of my asthma caused by the massive forest fire in Colorado springs.
    At least get to see my dad!"

    Hope he will feel better soon and will not lose too much training time... :(
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    I think it was Scott Allen, who was 14 when he won in 1964.
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    All aboard! :lol:

    I was watching his 2010 programs again last night, and in parts it was like :yikes:. You could see hints that there was this beautiful skater, but he was trapped underneath the windmill arms. :yikes:

    One of my favourite moments of Clair de Lune is his perfect performance of it at Junior Worlds. As he comes through the step sequence, he's got this huge smile on his face. It's not a performance smile, it's not a fake smile, it's a smile of "I love this! I'm having so much fun!" :swoon: It's the sort of thing you don't see in videos of his earlier programs.

    Can't wait to see the new one. The suspense is killing me! What will it be?! What genre will they go for? Will Josh and Damon choreograph it like they did with CdL or will they bring in someone else? Dying! :rofl:

    Jason for sure is signed up for Glacier Falls, no word on Josh but he did GF last year, didn't he?

    :( Thoughts with everyone in Colorado Springs too...that's a pretty big nasty-looking fire.

    Pleased he gets to spend some time with his Dad, though. I'm sure they don't get much opportunity. Although if poor Josh thought it was hot at 90 degrees in Colorado Springs, he's going to melt in Dallas, where it's been consistently over 100, according to a friend living there... :lol:

    All this talk of summer makes me :(. I miss warmth. Go away, winter.

    :shuffle: Yeah, I don't think Josh can match that! :lol:
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    Hands up if you did a confused double-take when this tweet appeared on your timeline...

    https://twitter.com/joshDfarris/status/219590276866506753

    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    So it looks like the goal is to see a bigger Josh this year...if his body plays ball! :lol:
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    Yeah I saw that tweet and had the same reaction...I was like, wait, a figure skater who actually wants to GAIN weight?? I guess he is a little skinny, and a guy, but still, i'm surprised he actually mentioned that on a public site. Maybe he wants to get ripped to help with his quad and then he can rock a pleather unitard and become the 2nd coming of Joubert instead of Lysacek :p :lol: ...he already has (or had) similar hair to Brian...

    Is he still in Dallas? I feel so bad for all the CS skaters what with the forest fire. Hope they are all okay and didn't miss out on too much training time!
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    It really surprised me, too...as you say, it's very unusual for a skater to openly say they want to gain weight! I don't think he looked especially skinny, but add a little muscle and he really could become a force.

    Lol please not Joubert, although he can happily reuse the Rach LP for as long as he wishes and I most certainly will not complain :p Not that I would object to a pleather unitard, either... :lol:

    I haven't heard anything to say that Josh has gone back to CS yet, I guess it would make sense if they waited for the fire to be more under control so that his asthma wouldn't be affected as badly. Hope he's not losing too much training time.

    Wonder if Kori Ade's group has delayed their arrival by a few days? Might be a sensible idea, wait until everything has calmed down.
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    When were Jason and Kori/the others planning on getting to Colorado again?

    As for the weight gain, it is the off-season, so it wouldn't be surprising if this was the time when some male skaters "bulk up" to build up their muscle mass and strength and then before the season starts they cut to lose the extra weight. Plus maybe more muscle mass makes the quads and building up more speed easier..
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    I don't know any exact dates, but when he mentioned it Rohene referred to the whole month of July, so I imagine it's very soon.

    I can't imagine that Josh will ever be a huge guy, so I think whatever he's putting on now he'll try and keep. Maybe he will be even more handsome and gorgeous this year! :swoon:

    I don't know about the muscle mass=quads thing, the Russian guys like Plushenko and Gachinski have gorgeous huge quads and they're little skinny toothpicks.

    As pervy as this sounds, I think the spot Josh needs more muscle on mostly is his backside. Leg strength will help give him more power. ;) But that said he does need to build up everywhere.
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    Well, he doesn't currently have the muscular thighs and glutes of Han Yan who is a very fast and powerful skater so who knows.

    Also, is Plushenko really that thin? I always thought of him as being a pretty normal weight for a figure skater and quite muscular, but idk. Arthur yes, very thin and wiry, but he's still a teenager so that's somewhat typical and could change later on.

    Speaking of which, Arthur and Josh really need to announce their music for next season! Offseason is torturous! :lol:
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    In his prime, about 2002-2003-2004, Plushenko had a very muscular lower half, but a very slim upper body. Since his comeback, he's been mostly skinny all over (due to crash dieting before Vancouver and then trying to avoid overly pressuring his knee just after), although he's just now re-developing some of that muscle in his lower half. Artur has put on a bit more weight over the last year or two, I thought there was even a difference between his GPs and Euros. But both have quite slim upper bodies comparitively. Maybe their costume choices mean I notice more or something. Josh should wear something tight-fitting so I can check :p

    Agreed! Artur is the only one of Mishin's group that hasn't announced at least one program yet! And I'm so impatient for Josh's SP! Hurry up boys! :lol:
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    Josh's Transformers costume was a tightish shirt and he looks pretty slight in it http://web.icenetwork.com/gen/photogallery/year_2011/month_10/day_13/cf25638508.html . But that was almost a year ago now so it might not be a good estimate. Also just was looking at his bio to get the picture which I hadn't looked at in ages and he's only 5'8"?? That surprises me I thought he was much taller, I had assumed he was like 5'10" 5'11", he certainly has a long appearance on the ice. Maybe that info is outdated but it's still interesting.
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    I kinda liked the costume for Transformers. I was watching it again the other day and I wouldn't mind seeing him go back to it in a year or two when he's got a bit more power and speed. He does look very slim there but as you say, almost a year ago, and a year at 16-17 makes a huge difference.

    I think it's pretty well accepted that the bio is wrong, since Jason's says he's 5'7" (or 5'6" ~and a bit~ :lol:) and we know that's pretty much true, and Josh is much taller than him than just an inch! I would put Josh probably around 5'10" for now, but it's hard to judge without seeing him standing next to people. He may have grown some more.
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    I sort of liked the transformers program too, but the rach program suits him better, at least for now, so i think switching was a good call. and the all black also slenderizes, but i do like the costume, the silver stripes are kinda cool. yeah, he's probably grown since, but even last season when his bio was last updated he looked pretty tall, so I guess leg/torso ratios can really play a large role in determining how tall one "looks".
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    Oh yes, definitely not disputing the switch. He can keep Rach forever if he wants :swoon:. It suits him perfectly. But in a year or two, with a little more power and strength...it could be interesting.

    That's a good point, he has a short torso and long legs, so he might look taller than he is. I just had a look at a pic of Josh and Jason standing together and Josh looks to be at least two inches taller, though. So it may be partly illusion and partly actual height.
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    Most pictures together he looks more like 3 or 4 inches taller, though I guess some of that could be his hair. But in the FB pictures, I was noticing, he looks very similar in height to the likes of Daniel Eaton, Jeremy Abbott, and Matt Blackmer who are all about 5'10"-5'11" and noticably taller than Jason and Timothy Dolensky who are like 5'6"-5'7", so if he was really 5'8", it would be the opposite way around, and some of these pictures were from the GPF which was way back in December. There's also a picture of him with Hanyu and he's about 2 inches taller and I think Hanyu is like 5'7" or 5'8". So maybe he was 5'8" last summer then grew a couple inches over the course of the season. I could be wrong but the shortest I can see him feasibly being is 5'9", and realistically more 5'10", maybe 5'11" even. Maybe Sarah and Drew can ask him :p :lol:? It doesn't really matter, just surprises me. But it happens a lot in the ladies event too, some girls who are 5'4" or 5'5" appear hugely tall on the ice when really they are not at all!

    Anyways, Christina Gao is the only person I can think of who brought back an old program after a few years. She skated to Yellow River Concerto as a FS as a novice at Nationals when she was like 13, then had another Yellow River FS (the cuts were different, but it was mostly the same music) in the 10-11 season when she competed as a senior at nationals and junior internationally. I really liked that FS for her the second time around so it can be a good idea. Idk though, Transformers just seems like a difficult music to skate to, for anyone to skate to no matter his/her style or talent, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's why they ditched it in the first place...
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    Josh is not on the list for Glacier Falls...is he okay? Why is he not competing at all this summer? AFAIK he's not competing in Liberty or Skate Detroit either...maybe he'll be at Golden West? Could his not competing this summer hurt his chances to get assigned to JGPs? I know he wanted to compete on the senior GP in which case assignments are made in advance and not competing over the summer would make sense since the season starts in October, but he now knows he's not competing on the GP and JGPs start in August and take summer results into account so this seems odd. You'd think he'd want to get his new SP out before the international season starts...I wonder if he's injured. I can't really think of any other reason why he's not signed up for any summer comps as of yet.
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    I'm pretty rubbish at guessing heights at the best of times, and of course it's harder to tell when they're still growing :lol:

    I reckon 5'10" is probably about right as an estimate in height. I hope he doesn't grow too much more and gets the chance to put on the muscle he wants to :lol:. I'd love to see him rocking a quad or even a quad combination this year. Hopefully he can stay in once piece, too!

    I wish we had more news on Jason, too. Yes, he did the 3A at Southport, but what about since then, is he landing it in practice? What is he working on now? Jason, get Twitter already! :lol:

    Oh yes, and upthread we were wondering when Josh was going home...he helpfully provided an answer.

    https://twitter.com/#!/joshDfarris
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    He's not on the list?! Oh goodness...now I'm really getting antsy. I mean, I can't imagine this affecting his JGP assignments, he's the reigning Junior World silver medallist for goodness' sake, but this is worrying, especially since he did do Glacier Falls at least last year.

    I mean, it would be a very unusual tactic to wait to unveil a new program at the first JGP, especially if all his competitors are showing theirs (Jason at Southport and Glacier Falls, for example). That's if I've understood correctly how JGP/summer comps in the US work...I'm still a rookie at this :lol:.

    Perhaps their idea is to "fly under the radar" so to speak. There's going to be a lot of attention on whether Jason will land the 3A, how Jason will manage the unusual SP, how Jason will pull off the classical LP. Jason just seems to pull attention, whether he means to or not. Nathan Chen is also going to draw a large amount of attention. So maybe Josh's team's idea is to let that happen, and then pop up at JGP and say "Hey! Here I am!" and remind everyone forcibly. Seems a risky tactic to me IMO.

    Although, perhaps I find the summer comps idea so odd is because generally my Russians tend not to unveil their new programs in competition until GPs. We often see them in shows before then, but I don't recall Artur ever doing a competition before the Grand Prix (except Japan Open). Evgeni used to do it sometimes when they had Goodwill Games and stuff, but not usually.

    Anyway, I really hope Josh isn't injured and this is some kind of unusual tactical move. Poor Josh has had enough bad luck to last a career. It would be nice to see him able to pull together several uninjured seasons in a row. When you think about it, last season was all the more impressive considering the late start he'd have gotten after recovering from the broken leg/torn muscle he suffered at Nats 2011.

    Incidentally, I wonder if it was the same leg he suffered the bad injury on back in summer 2009? I hope neither injury comes back to haunt him later...
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    Josh has had a lot of injuries over the past few years, the broken ankle at 2011 nats, the sliced calf muscle after 2009 nats, a joint condition a couple years before that. This history of being injured made me wonder about that. But, no news about an injury has been released, so I'm hoping that this no news/no competitions is good news. And yes, there will be a lot of attention on Chen who's been undefeated the past like 3 seasons, won the US junior title at age 12, is making his JGP debut, and may be putting in a 3axel to his programs (at age 13! :eek:), and then also Jason as the reigning JGPF champion and JW bronze medalist with no 3a as he tries to add the 3a to his programs.

    I guess Josh only has one new program though, and as a SP, there's just 3 jumps, we can assume his layout will be 3a, 3lz-3t, and 3f, all of which he's been landing for years, at least for the JGP, maybe at Nationals/other senior events he would put in a 4t, but I doubt he would risk it in the SP at the JGP where the 3f has to be a solo jump so he couldn't add a combo to it should the quad go wrong like he could in a senior event. I'm more just worried, most guys go through a lot of physical changes around age 17, and appearing to have grown in height in the past season and voicing desire to gain weight just makes me wonder about the status of his jumps. It could help the 3a and 4t, but it could also mess up the timing for those jumps, which is why I was hoping he'd compete in a summer competition or two. At least the start of the JGP is less than 2 months away, and we can assume Josh will be at the 1st or 2nd event (I reckon he, Jason, and Nathan will be the first in line for assignments, meaning 2 will be at the first event, and the other the 2nd).
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    At least Jason and Nathan are competing at Glacier Falls. I'll be interested to see if Nathan goes for the 3a...if he does and is landing it, and Jason is still struggling with it, and something weird is in fact going on with Josh, it will be interesting to see how things pan out. If Nathan can successfully add the 3a, i'll be curious to see how he stacks up against the big boys :lol: ...I tend to think he'll be able to.
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    I didn't know about the joint condition, that's a little worrisome. But I agree, surely we'd have heard something if he was injured, maybe they're just not wanting to push the envelope, reduce Josh's workload a bit and look after his body.

    Oh yes, for sure...he could probably do that jump layout in his sleep. I'd say the main concern over the weight etc is probably to do with the quad, and hopefully if he gains weight in a sort of even manner (on both upper and lower body) he'll be all right. Fingers crossed!

    Perhaps they are trying to make sure of everything before they bring it out for the first time.

    However, Josh, you are now OFFICIALLY the last favourite that I don't know new music for, since I saw a video of Artur's new LP today. :p

    Oh goodness, I'm not even prepared to consider that possibility :lol: I'm just going to float along with my wildly-optimistic mood on and decide that Josh is just being cheeky and hiding his quad and Jason is now landing 3A perfectly. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

    Glacier Falls is looking like a mini-Nationals...so I wonder if that's why they're skipping it? Not wanting to throw Josh up against everyone else right at the start of the season? Save the big guns for Nationals?

    In all seriousness, while Chen may be able to match at least Jason for technical content, he's miles behind them in artistry and musicality, and you can never underestimate the power of experience, either. With luck, both Josh and Jason will be fulltime Seniors by the end of this season (I'm still holding out for a 4CCs or even a senior Worlds assignment for them!), and Chen will be able to do whatever he likes on the Junior circuit :p.
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    At 13 and 4'9" or however big he is, I'm not that worried about Nathan yet...but in a few years, once he's grown and had more time with Raffael, watch out world! But honestly his artistry is pretty good for someone so young and small...he did get the highest PCS of all the junior men in the FS at Nationals and some of those guys, like Philip Warren, were pretty strong artistically, not on the level of Jason or Josh, but getting up there, so we'll see what happens.

    I don't get why Josh would want to hide his quad though? Seems weird. So I'm not convinced that's the reason. Hopefully there is some sort of strategy behind all this nonsense of not competing all summer...fingers crossed it's that and not anything bad!

    Let's hope the USFS allow Josh and Jason to become full time senior next season...it sounds like at least one of them wanted to do that THIS season but USFS had a different agenda :rolleyes: . I don't have a problem with either going to JW again, unless their Nationals placement means they should be sent to senior Worlds but are passed over in which case I will be very mad! But I digress...

    I'll be curious to see how Jason's 3a is looking come Glacier Falls. He'll have had a couple months since Southport to have worked on it so hopefully he'll be landing and rotating it by then, for Nationals, he's really going to need to have two 3a in his FS to have a shot at the World team so I hope he can manage that in the next 6 months!
  38. misskarne

    misskarne Spirit. Focus. Ability. Tenacity. Aussie Grit.

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    Definitely hoping it's a strategy play. Ashley Cain posted a pic on Twitter and Facebook of Josh at a rink in Dallas, and he looked okay, well, as far as one can tell from a pic of him in his USFSA jacket and from the waist up, haha. Hopefully we hear some good news soon!

    (Incidentally, he didn't look much bigger in terms of weight, but then, as I said, we could only see his top half.)

    They would be mad to hold either back from being a fulltime Senior next season. I still think they're mad not to allow Josh to move up this season! Instead it's like they're afraid that the younger skaters might show up the older ones...:rolleyes:

    Still hoping for Josh and Jason to squash everybody at Nationals and go to Worlds :lol:

    I've got everything crossed for him! His toe jumps are simply beautiful (except for that so-very-close-to-a-flutz) so I can't imagine a quad is too far away when he chooses to start working on it.

    But I will definitely settle for him landing and rotating the 3A with consistency by the end of this season! Come on Jason! :)
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    It seems like all skaters flutz or lip, at least a little bit. I notice Josh sometimes lips, and Jason does have a very slight flutz, which is actually unusual for a guy...usually the girls flutz and the guys lip! Although obviously not always (Yuna...). I'm still puzzled by this no summer competition thing for Josh and hope it doesn't end up hurting him, although maybe he is trying to build slower this season to aim to peak at Nationals and then JW/Worlds/4CC. I mean last season he scored almost 76 points for his SP at his first JGP event in mid september and that ended up being his SB for the SP! He knows Nationals has been a problem in the past, and he also saw Dornbush get named to the senior world team after competing on the JGP in the same season, so he knows if he can skate well at Nationals, there's a chance he could make the team, or 4CC team, so hopefully it's strategic and he's trying not to wear himself out or peak too fast, in which case it might be a good plan. At least I hope so...
  40. misskarne

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    I had noticed that about Josh's flip, but I'm genuinely surprised Jason doesn't get more edge calls. It just seems really obvious to me. Still, I guess that's why I'm not a tech specialist! :lol: Jason has a really lovely flip though, and Josh's Lutz has a really nice deep edge, so I guess they're just trade-offs.

    As for flutzing being unusual for guys, just watching the positions Jason bends himself into, I think we can say he's just a pretty unusual guy! :lol:

    I think it's not unrealistic to assume that their plan is to try and peak a little later. I mean, he was fabulous at JWC, but Nationals is where he really needs to hit it this year so I can see the sensible side of trying to peak there.

    Josh for Worlds! :lol:;):p