The Influence Of Jazz On Figure Skating

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  1. Maofan7

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    When compared with other music genre's (e.g. classical, musicals, opera, ballet, popular, etc), jazz, swing, big band, bebop, etc, has had slightly less of an influence on figure skating. Nevertheless, quite a number of programs have been developed and choreographed around the work of many of the great jazz artists. Here are some examples:-

    Glenn Miller

    Original Music: In The Mood, Moonlight Serenade, Pennsylvania 6-5000, Chattanooga Choo Choo, A String of Pearls

    Scott Hamilton - In The Mood

    Meryl Davis & Charlie White - 2003/04 Short Dance (Pennsylvania 6-5000)

    Maia Shibutani & Alex Shibutani - 2011/12 Free Dance (2011 GPF) (Sun Valley Serenade - featuring In The Mood, Moonlight Serenade, & Chattanooga Choo Choo)

    Duke Ellington

    Original Music: It Don't Mean a Thing (If It Ain't Got That Swing), Take the "A" Train, In a Sentimental Mood, Vortex from The River Suite

    Tomáš Verner - 2012/13 Free Program (2012 TEB) (It Don't Mean a Thing (If It Ain't Got That Swing))

    Jill Trenary - 1986 Olympic Festival LP (Vortex from The River Suite)

    Louis Armstrong

    Original Music: What A Wonderful World, Mack The Knife, When Your Smiling, Summertime

    Kurt Browning - 1989 World Championships - Gala (What A Wonderful World)

    Alexei Yagudin - 1998 Olympics - Gala (Play it Again Sachmo + Mack the Knife)

    Yannick Ponsero - 2009 European Championships LP (Summmertime, Porgy & Bess)

    Miles Davis

    Original Music: Kind of Blue, Conchita/Lament from Siesta

    Nancy Kerrigan - 1992 Olympics FS (Conchita/Lament from Siesta)

    Count Basie

    Original Music: Swingin' the Blues

    Silvia Monti - Italian Championships 2010/2011 - SP (Walkin' Proud)

    Ella Fitzgerald

    Original Music: Cry Me A River

    Kiira Korpi - European Figure Skating Championships 2011 - Gala (Cry Me A River)

    Billie Holiday

    Original Music: God Bless The Child

    Stephen Carriere - 2007 Junior World Championships - FS (God Bless The Child)

    Benny Goodman

    Original Music: Sing Sing Sing

    Rachael Flatt - 2010 Olympics - SP (Sing Sing Sing)

    So, what are your favourite jazz music inspired figure skating programs? If you can, please provide YouTube links to them
     
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  2. NadineWhite

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    Another wonderful informative thread started by you, Maofan7, thanks! :)

    I was just headed to bed after a bout of insomnia, but now I'm wide awake, lol.

    I would like to add the following:

    Louis Armstrong

    Oksana Baiul ~ "What A Wonderful World" (my favorite version was at Celebration of Gold, but couldn't find it on youtube): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11gRRzortYM

    Mary Beth Marley & Rockne Brubaker ~ "What A Wonderful World" + "La Vie en Rose" (hands down my favorite program of their ever, ah what could have been...): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjhfambKZpo

    Billie Holiday

    Oksana Baiul ~ "Ain't Nobody's Business": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLE3FKnmB_c

    Edith Piaf

    Alissa Czisny ~ "La Vie en Rose": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx_fj_6QgA0

    Mary Beth Marley & Rockne Brubaker ~ Louis Armstrong's "What A Wonderful World" + "La Vie en Rose" (my favorite program of theirs ever): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjhfambKZpo


    And finally, ALL THAT JAZZ ~ Oksana Baiul (genius in every single way is this program, perfect marriage of performer to the music, to the choreography, et al): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VRrW1Q_0nk
     
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    Art Blakey
    Original piece: Moanin

    Kevin Reynolds "Moanin" (I'm not a Reynolds fan but I always liked this program because not only does he skate to jazz but he skates to hard bop, which isn't a type of jazz that is competitively skated to often): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1kCFkBl27A
     
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    Thanks. Here is another version of it:-

    Tara Lipinski & Ilia Kulik

    Thanks also. Here are some more versions:-

    Chen Lu - 1997 World Championships SP

    Patrick Chan - 2012 World Championships - SP

    Torvill & Dean - 1996 World Professional Championships - Technical Program
     
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    No problem! :) Thanks for starting this thread. I love jazz and love when skaters utilize it.
     
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    One of the most overused music in (American) skating is Sing Sing Sing. One cannot go through any year's Nationals without hearing it at least once. Jeff Buttle had a version of that.

    I'm not sure it's true that jazz is used less than popular music in figure skating. At least in North American pop is far less common than jazz in competitions. It seems to me that non-Russian European skaters sometimes use heavy techno, which is in itself a lot more popular in Europe than in North American.
     
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    I'd say it was probably already considered a skating classic by the time Brian Orser used it in 1988.

    Big band/swing seems to have been almost as common as classical music all along, especially in ice dance because so much of it is intended as music for social dancing. Also blues has been popular because the slow extended notes work well with extended gliding moves.

    Grishuk/Platov St. James Infirmary

    And on that note, Summertime has also been very popular.
    Browning does it jazz-style
     
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    I can't point to the precise source but it might have been Phillip Mills who explained that skaters who are not suited to the ballet style of movements (for example, not naturally long-limb or very flexible) can do well with jazz music. Makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately, sometimes skaters/coaches/choreographers use jazz music to hide poor posture and sloppy, unfinished movements. Loads of skaters use jazz music, but few do it well and gets to the heart of the freedom and spirit.
     
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    Great routine :) Thanks for the link.
     
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    I would really faint if skaters chose more Sidney Bechet. Out of Nowhere. His Summertime, which is the best Summertime of all time, even winter and autumn and spring, Sister Kate, I Found a New Baby...

    Actually, I'm not sure how his soprano sax would sound in an arena.

    So maybe I should adjust my goal to hoping for someone to tackle the bebop era and deliver us Salt Peanuts.

    I find that to be very true. Vernacular jazz dance has a very rich history and a lot of movement to choose from. It's all about being lower to the ground (ie, bent knees!), feeling the rhythm, ...and teaching the audience to clap on the second beat. Dance could even do more complex modified air steps, because there are some crazy ones out there that might not involve decapitation once blades are added in.

    I'm not sure that a lot of coaches really know where to go to get authentic help with choreography. Lindy hop is a huge scene in Seattle, where I got involved for a time, and the amount of awesome people who travel the world just to teach authentic jazz is astounding. There are even some old timers left, like Norma Miller. But it's a niche, it's a social dance, and they're not well known because they aren't really tapped for Dancing with the Stars or So You Think You Can Dance. They should be, though!
     
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    My most favorite Jazz program:

    Shishkova-Naumov's 1992 LP: Take Five
     
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    I really think this program left a lot to be desired. That is quite possibly my favorite piece of jazz music, and it felt like G&G just threw it by the wayside. I see no real choreography or attention to detail in the program. I guess I'll never be fond of Zueva.

    As much as people derided her skating skills, Bonaly actually had a terrific interpretation of this and IMHO it gave her some sophistication .

    I also thought Stephane Lambiel in his 2003 Chocolat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVH-UWB4EaM (music is at 1:36) had a superb interpretation of this , albeit brief in the program .

    I loved Bebe Liang and thought she had such a terrific sense of musicality and showmanship;it's a shame she never performed this program perfectly.
     
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    I know a lot of us dislike it but I wonder if anyone has skated to Miles Davis' rendition of Concierto de Aranjuez? His version has a coolness to it that makes it bearable.
     
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    This is so North- American. Maybe you don't understand me, he skates like Kurt, Jeff and others. And the choreographies is also similar for me..
     
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    Do you mean that Kurt, Jeff and Brandon have the same style of skating? :huh:

    Not being remotely sarcastic or anything, just asking
     
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    hey! don't get me wrong...i wanted to say this is so North-American style.. and yes similar. And I admire them. If anybody doesn't know who is the skater, when sees him will know, oh, he is from North-America in that minute!

    Like the off ice dancers, for example, do you understand?
     
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