The Hunger Games

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  1. michiruwater

    michiruwater Well-Known Member

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    Those were my two main spots as well, and I cried more when Katniss volunteered the second time than the first time!

    I agree that the sense of time in the Games didn't feel authentic. When they're shooting the fireballs at her, the clock in the Command Center says that 3 days have passed. It didn't feel like three days at all. I didn't think to see what the center says at the end, however, for how much time was supposed to have passed.

    I thought the actress who played Clove was the best overall actor of the Career Tributes, but I will say that it was really noticeable how much younger she was than the other three. I always pictured Clove as being larger and more ferocious in appearance. Isabelle Furhman can't be taller than 5'2" or so and was really tiny. I think the actress was 14 when she was cast.
  2. Kasey

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    (Finally started reading the book....yeah, I tend to be behind the pop culture 8 ball)
  3. Allen

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    Yeah, I started crying when Katniss volunteered. Abe was totally embarrassed that I was crying in the theatre...that is until he started crying when Rue died.

    I'm with everyone who didn't think the District 11 riot scene made sense at all. Why they left out the loaf of bread...I have no idea because that was such a touching moment in the book.

    Woody Harrellson didn't bother me...but I did think during the movie that he just seemed like himself, not necessarily Haymitch :)

    Elizabeth Banks really surprised me. She really captured Effie to me. The people in the capital looked exactly how I pictured them in my head.

    I was really happy with the movie. It was really just about the first time that a movie matched the image I had in my head from the book. I was a Jennifer Lawrence fan before, but I think I'm an uber now :)
  4. michiruwater

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    Elizabeth Banks was perfectly cast. I thought she would do a good job, but she was excellent. I didn't mine Harrelson, really - and both showings I went to, he got the most laughs, particular his comment to Effie about her clothes and the thumbs up he gave to Katniss after the pig. But I do think he should have been schwasted much more than he was. But I do think he was the weakest cast member in an otherwise fantastic cast.

    I was a bit uncomfortable with the chemistry between Lenny Kravitz and Lawrence though. Did anyone else notice that? I thought he made a fantastic Cinna, but they just had loads and loads of chemistry, way more than she had with either Gale or Peeta. The comments he would make - "You made me like you" or the kisses on the forehead - just felt way more intimate than I had imagined in my head.
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    I cried like a baby when Rue died and my dd laughed at me. But I really was crying, not that sniffing you normally do at the movies. I'm not sure why it upset me that much. But it did.

    I deliberately waited until I saw the movie and now my kid won't let me read her book because she started it again and isn't finished with it. :( I may have to download it after all instead of waiting.
  6. michiruwater

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    I was crying my eyes out both times. All my friends cried their eyes out. Both times I could hear people outright sobbing in the theater. It's a very upsetting death - don't worry about it!

    The soundtrack? It is great. I love it. I've listened twice so far today!
  7. Buzz

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    The movie has made about $240m this weekend worldwide. So I'd Say this series is off to a really good start.
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    Allen- he only way I can rationalize the riot scene is to think that the man who started it was Rue's father but that is just an unfounded assumption on my part
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    I noticed this too! The chemistry was through the roof between those two. I took Cinna to be gay in the book (maybe just stereotyping on my part) but he didn't come across that way in the movie at all because I thought he wanted to do her the whole time. :lol:
  10. vesperholly

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    Lenny Kravitz can't help it, he's just sex on a stick no matter who he's with. :grope:
  11. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    I didn't get any chemistry between Kravitz and Lawrence
  12. Allen

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    I did a little right before she went into the arena.
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    Yes, I got a lot of chemistry between Katniss and Cinna as well. Way more than with Peeta or Gale. Lenny was a fantastic Cinna. Loved every scene he was in!

    Rue's death didn't even make we well up a little bit. I felt Stenberg's acting was a bit weak in that scene, and her death didn't make me have the reaction I thought it would. I didn't hear anyone else in the theater crying either.

    I was ok with Harrelson as Haymitch and I'm willing to bet it was more mis-direction than mis-casting. He defintiely didn't act like the Haymitch in the book and I felt his character wasn't explained well beyond "mentor". Did they even say he was a previous victor?

    I loved the Control Room scenes, the things you never got to see in the book. I'm *hoping* that since Suzanne Collins was so involved in the movie that that was her "vision" of how the Games were controlled and not someone's random idea.

    I was very happy at really how closely they stayed to the book. Since you know the next two movies will be greenlighted because of the monster numbers Hunger Games opened with (and really, how could there have been doubt??) I'm hoping the next two movies will stay that close as well.

    I'm really looking forward to seeing it again!
  14. PrincessLeppard

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    I'm hoping Mockingjay is significantly altered from the novel. Watching Katniss being sedated ten times is going to get really :yawn:
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  15. dancer72

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    And the plan seems to be for MJ to be 2 movies. I would think a lot of the stuff that happens behind the scenes in the book will have to be on screen in the movie.
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    I read that as well. Not sure how I feel about that.
  17. Spareoom

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    Yeah, I'm not sure how that's going to work. MJ is a long book but there's not a very good breaking point for another movie. The only one that I can think off the top of my head is
    right after Peeta is rescued from the Capitol and he tries to kill Katniss. Although that would mean very little Peeta and Johanna in MJ P1.
  18. genevieve

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    well, if they decide to film all the action that takes place while Katniss is napping, it would extend the story considerably :shuffle:
  19. michiruwater

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    Yes, on the train to the capital Peeta expositions to Katniss, "He did win this thing once."

    I'm not sure how I feel about Mockingjay being extended to two films as well. I don't think there's enough material unless, as noted, they film all the stuff that happens while Katniss is unconscious :shuffle:
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    A coworker (who hadn't read the book) said he was disappointed in the movie. He said he didn't get any sense of undertones of social conscious he had heard the book had and he didn't understand why District 11 was rioting, as they had to expect their tributes would likely die. He also had no idea who the rebels might be and had no idea there was a
    district 13. I wonder if people will be surprised when there suddenly is one in the next movie
    .

    I've chosen not to see the movie. I don't do well with shaky cameras (nearly got sick during saving private ryan in theatres) and I hear there is a tribute who snaps anothers neck. I can't handle that. I have issues.
  21. michiruwater

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    In the film shown at the Reaping President Snow clearly says that the THIRTEEN districts rebelled against the capitol. So it's there, even if people weren't paying attention.

    Besides, it's SUPPOSED to be surprising that District 13 still exists. And I don't recall very much exposition on District 13 in book 1 itself, other than finding out it was destroyed, which is hardly something that needed to be said in this particular film.
  22. genevieve

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    yeah, there's no need for talk about that in the first film. It actually makes for a better surprise later, as in the books you knew it was coming eventually.
  23. danceronice

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    Without having read Mockingjay so I don't know if it really needs to be a surprise, I do think you need to know in the back of your head that there WAS a District 13, but I don't think there needs to be a detailed mention. Plenty of time to clarify that in Catching Fire.

    I am most concerned about the shaky-cam thing. I might have time Wednesday night to see it at the theater near the competition hotel I'll be at, but I have been known to get motion sick from shaky cam...
  24. genevieve

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    it's Blair Witch level shaky cam, but only for short bursts
  25. kwanatic

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    I haven't seen it yet...I might go this weekend if I can find some time.

    I don't like the fact that they are splitting the last book into two movies. In certain cases I think two movies is necessary. I didn't mind it so much in Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows mainly because so much stuff happens in that final book...and what's even more shocking is that they still had to cut a lot. In this case, I thought splitting it into two movies was justified.

    I think splitting Breaking Dawn into two movies was done purely to milk more money out of the people. For one thing, the book itself droned on for about 400 pages longer than it needed to only to end with absolutely nothing happening. I'm assuming the end will be changed considerably...

    I'd have preferred it if they didn't split Mockingjay. I think a 2.5 hour movie would be enough time to cover what happens in that final book but Hollywood is all about milking as much money out of people as they can so I can't say I'm surprised.:rolleyes: I think it's unnecessary.
  26. brina

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    I did not realize Jennifer Lawrence is from my hometown (Louisville, KY). That is very cool.
  27. genevieve

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    Is it official that the last film is being split? From what I read in EW, I thought it was still under consideration.
  28. Theatregirl1122

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    Still being discussed, last I saw.
  29. Spareoom

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    So I saw the movie again yesterday, and here are my revised thoughts regarding the ending:

    I suppose one can make a case that they DID show Peeta's realization of Katniss's true feelings, although it is about as subtle as it can get. When they're on the train ride home, Peeta asks what they're supposed to do now and Katniss replies, "I don't know; just try to forget". She's back to "old" Katniss; stoic, very closed and focused on just surviving. You can see the hurt in Peeta's eyes as he registers what she's just said, and reasserts his feelings for her ("But I don't want to forget). But later when they're back in 12, Peeta watches Katniss as she finally lays eyes on her family and Gale, and again, he's clearly hurting.

    Like I said, super subtle. But I guess now they can go into CF saying that they *did* plant the seeds of doubt in Peeta's mind. And I'm guessing that the "love triangle" will be heavily featured in the marketing campaign leading up to CF, so if we don't know about the tension between Peeta and Katniss now, we will before CF comes out.

    One thing about HG making tons of money that makes me super happy is that CF and MJ are likely to have a dramatically increased budget compared to HG. Which is great, because they're going to need it. The horizons are greatly expanded in the next two books and 80mil isn't going to cut it. Especially in CF with all the different districts and an arena that just screams high tech and man-made...pretty sure all arena footage will have to be shot on a sound stage or some place very exotic. Not much in the way of jungles here. Maybe they'll pack up and film in Hawaii for awhile? :p ;)

    On another note, I'm re-reading the Hunger Games again, and I'm reminded of one of my small pet-peeves with the books, which is how incredibly self-aware Katniss is to the point of it being absurd. I know most of that is just a byproduct of the style of writing; Katniss is our ears and eyes so she HAS to make an observation on everything for the sake of the audience. But still, it is one thing about the books that I don't miss at all in the movie. Not having a running commentary in Katniss's head allows us to see her from a purely third-person perspective and judge her on OUR terms. And she comes off much more vulnerable and less...cocky? I dunno if it's the right word but anyway, I do like the movie's interpretation of her in this instance. :)
  30. vesperholly

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    Ugh, I certainly hope not.
    Gale is even more of a non-presence in Catching Fire (IIRC he kisses her at the beginning of Mockingjay?). Katniss spends all her time with Peeta, seeking refuge in his bed, etc. Pretty lopsided triangle and totally subverts the real message of the series.
  31. Spareoom

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    No, Gale kisses Katniss is CF. And remember when he's beaten half to death? Katniss never leaves his side and her reaction to the whole situation leads Peeta to believe that she loves Gale.

    Anyway, I put "love triangle" in quotes because you're right, it's not really a love triangle. But the confusion in Katniss's mind regarding them is never more present than in CF, so I'm sure they will play that up heavily (in marketing, anyway) to sort of ignite the Twilight fanbase that are looking for a new franchise to hop on.
  32. Buzz

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    This make believe world reminds me of the old Stalinist era USSR. The abject poverty and deprivation to be found most everywhere is in stark contrast to the relative oppulence of the capitol. Plus there is also the similarity in the lack of ability to travel between the different districts or republics. Before WW2 the USSR had 12 republics and only became 15 after the war.
  33. CantALoop

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    I haven't read the book, but my interpretation of the riot was that the Hunger Games were a tightly controlled event to keep the general populace docile and subservient.

    The tributes in the Hunger Games are expected to do what they are told: kill everyone. Based on the restlessness and looking around while the District 1/2(?) and Peeta alliance tried to sleep, it seemed that alliances formed during the Games were tenuous at best, and served only to carry a group to the final where they would turn on each other.

    Then along comes Katniss and Rue, who actually seemed to care for each other as people rather than competitors. I'm guessing that Katniss' actions were unprecedented among Hunger Games tributes, and that previous tributes did not pay respects or care about the fallen.

    Katniss' efforts to show genuine compassion were totally against the self-preservation, survival, and bloodlust expected of the tributes in the Games. Combined with the emotional death of Rue, District 11 sees Katniss' actions as one of free will and defiance, therefore spurring them to action. JMHO.
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    ^^ Well I haven't seen the movie yet but I have read the books. I'm assuming they threw a District riot in as a precursor to what we'll see in Catching Fire; it's that initial spark that leads to the rebellion that is born from Katniss' actions in the games...kind of like a little lead-in for Catching Fire...

    As for the love "triangle", IIRC, the director says it's not main focus in the films...more of a running subplot and I hope they stick to that b/c that's how it is in the books too. Katniss is much more concerned with staying alive than she is with having a boyfriend, though I do agree that the marketing for the next movie will probably feature the infuriating Team Gale/Team Peeta bullsh*t...that's SO annoying.

    As I said before, there's no comparison b/w Peeta and Gale. You get why she has affection for Gale but Peeta is the visible one and the one you get to know throughout. I think fans of the movie like the idea of seeing Jennifer Lawrence with Liam Hemsworth (sp?) so that will cause a good amount of screaming and shipping for the Katniss/Gale relationship.
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    Why did I not realize this ahead of time... those short bursts were enough to ruin it for me; I'm super-sensitive to shaky cam. I wish they hadn't done it - I don't see why it was needed (at least in Blair Witch it made sense)

    I did like what little I saw of it, and I went with a friend who had free tickets, so it wasn't all bad ;)
  36. Buzz

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    Slightly off topic but The Hunger Games have inspired a new fitness craze. LOL Feel like training like tribute? Now you can. :)
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    Time to break out my Team Shut Up merchandise. ;)
  38. michiruwater

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    I find it hard to believe that anyone who actually read the books would be on Team Gale.

    Then again, I find it hard to believe that anyone who read the books would really care. Katniss choosing between the two barely mattered, and she certainly had more important things on her mind.
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    I cried at these same moments and I am not a movie cryer. Rue got me the most. The little girl who played her was perfect for the part. It was close to what I imagined when first reading the books.

    I loved both the books and the movie. I'm already looking forward to Catching Fire. I cannot wait to see who plays Finnick.
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    I can't wait to see Finnick, either! He better be :swoon: and half naked.