The Greatest 3 Performances in the Olympic

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  1. SkatingAnalyst

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    Thanks for the links! Three great performances, no doubt! It's wonderful to relive those moments, thanks to YouTube!
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    Ah well - here comes the wet blanket. These are all right but the title of your thread is very misleading as imho it should be qualified with Ladies and Recent Olympics. (Not saying I totally agree with the choices either but at least if I knew the topic was all about Ladies I would not have been so disappointed)
  5. iarispiralllyof

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    I've noticed it tends to be easy to just choose performances from the 3 most recent olympics since these are more up to par with current difficulty levels

    anyway as for my own personal opinion, this is artistically the best choreographed short program in the history of ladies skating

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cH6z-gwiSRc
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    Not certain I agree with your choices, especially the free skates. And it would have been lovely to know you meant ladies figure skating. Saying "The Greatest 3 Performances in the Olympic" implies all disciplines, imo.
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    as I agree with this, and the others who mentioned the same, and feels mislead and dissapointed with thread starters choices, I'm hijacking this thread, and bring you the three men that makes me cry when they skate, because everything they do is so unbelivably GOOD!!!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_Rpt0dF9zw

    if anyone wants to object on Brians flying sit spin, split jumps, spread eagles and 3a are the best ever, I don't want to listen to you!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu3s9aR079k

    Tatiana Tarasova quote: today is great day for figure skating!!

    ....here I planned to post the link to Daisukes olympic free skate...and I couldn't find it!! jeeeez....

    Still, those three....greatest 3 performances at the olympics! (that's the thread title right?) (and Dai didn't even win!)


    ...btw...I agree that Sasha Cohens sp from 2006 rocks:kickass:
    really one of the greatest ever!!
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    You should have known that already, cosidering the original poster. :lol:
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    It's almost impossible to find clips of specific performances from Vancouver on Youtube - broadcast rights, I guess. The best I can do is a link to the point when Dai went on the ice for his LP.

    No discussion of the best Olympic performances can be complete without this.
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    this is tricky................

    G&P's FD in Nagano, Michelle's lp in Nagano, Yuna's lp in Vancouver!



    also!!!!! V/M's FD in vancouver, Yagudin's sp/lp in Saltlakecity!!!!

    too hard:(
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    THE Best in all 4 disciplines, these all happen to be LPs:

    Ladies: 2010 Yu-Na Kim (2nd - 1972 Janet Lynn)

    Men: 1976 John Curry (2nd - 1988 Boitano)

    Pairs: 1988 Gordeeva/Grinkov (2nd - 1968 Protopopovs)

    Dance: 1984 Torvill/Dean (2nd - 2010 Virtue/Moir)
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    Yagudin!!!!! :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2:

    I wonder if Scott Hamilton has ever listened to his commentary for this program, and been like "what was I thinking???" :lol:
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    oh dear....I've actually never heard that commentary before! If I was Scott, I would dig myself deep down and never come back up. Conservative skating??? Two quads and triples all over the place?? "...if he's third, he's third, will it beat Timothy Goebel?" ha ha ha I think I'm cracking up :lol::lol:

    Bad commentary can really ruin a moment, can it? I watched this performance live on SVT and they were crying with me! awww bless!!

    (btw I'm really loving the direction of this thread, right:D)
  18. Zokko!

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    Would you please name that particular program? In my country the video isn't available, like many others as well, because of stupid (music/UMG) copyrights :mad::mad: ... thank you!
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    It's John Curry's lp in Innsbruck in 1976
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    These are all excellent selections.
    What makes it hard is to decide how you look at it. Does it need to be technically perfect? Does it need to be mezmerizing? Do you have to consider the context? An example of this last point is Kim. No question, greatest ladies skate ever under the most enormous amount of pressure. But if you didn't know the background and her situation, was it really #1?

    So I'm going mostly by impact with a good (but not perfect) degree of technical.

    Ladies: Baiul 1994 SP
    Men: Curry 1976 LP
    Pairs: Mishkuteniok/Dmitriev 1994 LP
    Dance: Klimova/Ponomarkenko 1992 FD
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    I'm really not sure what you mean by this post. What was not perfect technically about John Curry's skate? It was absolutely flawless!
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    For me the answers are yes, yes, and no (the only relevant "context" is temporal since the technical aspects of skating continue to advance as the years go by).

    All these lists are so subjective, however, as to be almost meaningless. I, for example, find John Curry's Insbrook performance to be very slow, boring, and somnolent.
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    I was talking about the list as a whole, not each individual performance. Curry was perfect, but Baiul was not. The list, as a whole, is not made up of perfect skates.

    Hope that clarifies.
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    The best ladies' one to me was Tara Lipinski's. Yu-Na's was technically perfect, but it lacked the joy that Tara's had.

    For male gold medalists I would probably go with Brian Boitano's or Evan Lysacek's, but keep in mind I don't remember Yagudin's in much detail so if I were to I might choose that one instead. The Olympic mens' performance that moved me the most though was Elvis Stojko's in 1998, just because he was skating with so much pain - although I didn't know until after, so the emotional effect didn't happen until I was re-watching it.

    Hmm, pairs.. I think Sale/Pelletier 2002 probably.

    And dance, Virtue and Moir in 2010, closely followed by Anissina and Peizerat in 2002.
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    Understood. I think different things inspire each of us as we watch. Taste is so personal.
    Top skaters of that era were not particularly speedy. Also, free skates were longer then so you had to pace yourself a bit. Still, I found this performance to be absolutely sublime; he hit the difficult triples of that era, spun in both directions, had wonderful and musical transitions and deployed field moves. Also his back, body line, extension and musical interpretation were all pretty much flawless. That might not bring you out of your seat, but it does for me.

    His more modern contemporary would have been Galindo. Some similarities in that jumps, spins, body line where outstanding. Outside of the main elements, though, Galindo's complexity was painfully low, especially in footwork and transitions. He was not that quick around the ice either. Still -- and in part because of his known personal story -- his 96 nationals performance brought people out of their seats with tears in their eyes. I choked up, too...and I'm dead inside :p
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    I so agree! I don't think I've ever seen an Olympic performance (Oksana a close second) where the skater seemed to be having so much fun on the ice.

    For the men, my favorite is Kulik's 1998 LP.

    For pairs, definitely m&d's 94 LP (they were SOOOO robbed!!)
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    A very interesting fellow, this John Curry! Do u guys know of a good biography of him? I'm quite intrigued about his life
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    Only 3 best among 4 disciplines? That's a tough one.

    Men- Have to go with Yagudin, although Kulik had a cleaner performance.

    Ladies- Yu na Kim

    Pairs- M&D 1994 (though not an OGM winner)

    Ice dance- Tie between K&P and T&D
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    I don't know of a print bio, but here are links to a TV program called "Maestro":
    Part 1
    Part 2
    Part 3
    Part 4
    Part 5

    Links to "50 Golden Days"
    Part 1
    Part 2
    Part 3
    Part 4

    All were posted to YouTube by floskate :respec:
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    Perhaps that was so because you are American. It was joyous like crazy to Koreans. Putting how joyous a performance was aside, I think Yuna's performance was just amazing both technically and artistically.
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    I understand what blue_idealist means. Lipinski smiled her way right through that programme, and that's part of what made it so wonderful. But Kim's music called for something rather different, and she interpreted it perfectly by being elegant, sophisticated, cool and serene. If she'd had a permanent grin all the way through the Gershwin Concerto it wouldn't have been appropriate or fitting to the music.

    I love both interpretations. They are two of my favourite performances of all time.
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    John could skate with incredible speed....when he wanted to. His pacing was all down to what the music told him to do. John would never skate fast just for the sake of skating fast, but his mastery of the blade was such that he could make those choices. ITA on everything else you say about his Olympic program.

    Not sure I get the Galindo comparison. For his era Rudy had very good position and line, but it pales in comparison to John's. I think Paul Wylie had a much more classic bodyline for example, but Paul was much more of a showy and ''ta-da'' kind of skater. The closest comparison to John's positioning would proably be Rudi Cerne of Germany.

    @kwanfan1818, thanks for posting the links to my vids. Regarding a written biography of John, there is an excellent picture book by Keith Money that can often be found on ebay or amazon. Another biography called Black Ice was written after John's death by his former manager Elva Oglanby but John's family took out an injunction and it was withdrawn from sale. I have a copy and they do appear from time to time but often sell for over $100. It's rather tastelessly written and focuses waaay too much on his private life, plus none of it is corroborated or properly referenced. Hopefully someday, someone will write a definitive biography. It's an idea I have toyed with myself actually! :D
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    I'm actually Canadian.
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    Well said.
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    I second this absolutely gorgeous, exquisite skate.
  38. let`s talk

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    Thanks. Other Olympics host broadcasters also have copyrights. But they are just less greedy!:mad:
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    You made a valid point about Yu-Na's joy being seen in a different way. I'm sorry you felt the need to throw in this non-value-added dig, which is what I'll take away more than the good sense you brought to the discussion.

    I wouldn't put Lipinski at #1 because I found her skate to not have the sophistication of other performances including that of YuNa.

    On the "joy" factor between her and YuNa, I did feel that Tara skated without any apparent pressure or weight of expectations. There was a certain liberation in how she skated that YuNa didn't have, especially when you look at their performances earlier in the season. Kim did a fantastic job performing her program under such enormous pressure, but (understandably) I still see she was holding back slightly vs what I saw from that program earlier in the season where we was a little more free in her movement and flirtatious with the audience. Again, stands to reason but her energy dialed down to something more controlled come the Olympic LP whereas Tara stepped it up a notch.

    I think what impressed some people about Tara was that she brought her energy up a tad vs earlier season performances in the face of only having a small crack in the door left open by Kwan. She had to be perfect and sell the heck out of her program as her only chance. And she stepped up. Well done, but all in all, not my #1 skate.

    Not enough to make Tara #1...but...just my take on the "joy" observation
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    Yes! B/S 2002 SP: sublime. I put that as my #2 skate after M/D 1994 LP. Spellbinding...and whodathunk butter color pants could look so yummy on a guy?