The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo--the movie

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  1. flyingsit

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    Brad Pitt really shines in comedy more than anything serious.
  2. IceAlisa

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    I discovered his dramatic skills in 12 Monkeys and was very impressed. But he is too pretty for Blomkvist.
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    Sorry for the double post. I have a cancellation and am uncharacteristically caught up on charting so I wanted to discuss potential candidacies for the role of Lisbeth.

    We've talked about Ellen Page who would be my first choice.

    Others are:

    Mia Wasikowska Seems OK, like she has potential to be a good Lisbeth. I am not familiar with her acting.

    Emily Browning Way too luscious. She can't lose her beautiful bee-stung lips, can she. All wrong for Lisbeth.

    Sara Snook That's nice and sullen, could work. I don't know her work to say more.

    Rooney Mara Doesn't seem to have the required intense presence, kinda dishwater blah.

    Sophie Lowe Could work, may be.
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  4. genevieve

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    I saw somewhere else that Rooney Mara is under serious consideration - she's way too...soft looking. Mia - perhaps, but she'd have to ditch that long luscious hair.
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    Rooney Mara just seems too mousy and non-threatening. I would eliminate her and Emily Browning just based on the head shots.

    Regarding Mia--losing the hair would be a small price to pay (but yes, the hair is very nice). She looks good for the role IMO.
  6. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    It's official: Rooney Mara is in

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100816/ap_en_ot/us_film_dragon_tattoo

    In terms of looks I'm not crazy about her but 1) I'm thrilled they went with a relative unknown and 2) if I had seen Noomi Raplace before seeing the Swedish films I would not have expected her to fit the bill so well either. I will cross my fingers that they will go as far as needed to make this character come to life and not insist that the actress remain "Hollywood pretty".
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  7. IceAlisa

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    Well, we'll see. I am a bit skeptical but am hoping to be pleasantly surprised.
  8. CynicElle

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    I don't know anything about this actress other than that she was in that "Nightmare on Elm Street" remake that I never saw, but I'm glad they finally picked someone; the constant "They're down to six candidates! Now they're down to four! Now they're down to two!" rumor leakage was getting really :rolleyes:. (It's a role in a movie, not the next President.) I like the other casting rumors I've heard so far (Stellan Skarsgard as Martin Vanger and Robin Wright as Erika Berger), so hopefully this is a good call too.
  9. skatingfan5

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    Adding my vote to Hannah, Holley, and the rest of the "WHY MAKE A REMAKE?" crowd. I just saw this first movie this weekend (at the local "art" theatre) and really, really liked it. They are going to be showing "The Girl Who Played with Fire" next.

    I'm wracking my brain to come up with a Hollywood remake of a foreign film that I have liked as much as/thought was as well done as the original. So far, nothing. Although I did enjoy a few of the remakes, mostly they were very much inferior (at least to my tastes). I can actually see Daniel Craig doing a creditable job in the role of Mikael; since I have no recollection of ever seeing Rooney Mara, I haven't the faintest idea of what she could do as Noomi. I guess I can be thankful that they didn't cast Miley or some such similar. :scream:
  10. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    You mean as Lisbeth? :p I think this shows how completely Noomi Rapace became Lisbeth Salander in the Swedish films :lol:
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    Oops! Yes, I did mean Lisbeth. :lol: Still don't understand why a remake is being done. Actually, I do. :bribe: I guess many people still stay away from movies with subtitles .. I go to nearly as many films with subtitles as those that are English language. Oh well, if the remake is any good at all, I likely will go see it. So far the casting seems more promising than a Brad Pitt/Kristen Stewart billing would be. :lol:
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  12. Satellitegirl

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    I don't see this girl as Lisbeth, but who knows. I'm not sure I even want to watch the English version, having seen the Swedish version and liked it so well.
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    Neither do I. Does this look like someone who can take out two biker dudes?
  14. pollyanna

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    Not really, but makeup and costumes can do wonders. ;) There is an interview with Noomi Rapace on the DVD extras of TGWTDT, and she looks far too beautiful and "soft" to play Lisbeth, yet she was stunning in the role. I too am not looking forward to an American remake - I'll have to hear the word of mouth about the film before I consider netflixing it.
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    It's beyond the make up--she just doesn't look fierce. It's in her eyes. However, a good enough actress would be able to pull this off, case in point Noomi Rapace. Does Rooney Mara have what it takes? I don't know as I had no idea who she is until she became a contender for the role of Lisbeth.

    Does anyone know if she has acting talent?
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    I think whatsername(Ashley something or other? I think that's her first name) from Twilight that plays Alice would have been a good choice as far as achieving a similar look.
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    These are both moot points now, Satellitegirl, but as mentioned before physically I think the best candidate would have been Allison Scagliotti. Of course, physical appearance is not everything for this role but Scagliotti is an unknown as the director required. She is, however pretty young and the role of Lisbeth requires prodigious acting talent.
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    Bumping it up with pictures of Rooney Mara in full Salander gear. Her outfit is fierce but her face is not.

    She looks like a superhero in that stupid motorcycle outfit. :rolleyes: Regular black leather wasn't good enough, gotta make it flashy or the rude Amerikans will get bored.
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    She still looks boring to me, superhero jacket and all.

    Of course they cut and dyed her hair, how could Salander have Mara's long blond mane?

    And where are the piercings?
  21. genevieve

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    If you read the comments in the link, it looks like these pics are of Mara learning to ride a motorcycle, not something they're filming (I was wondering because of the lack of makeup - that was even weirder than the piercings to me). So the jacket may not be the real costume.

    And while the cut/dyed hair may seem like a "duh", it would not have surprised me if the US version would have a much cuter, softer look than what is necessary for the part.
  22. skatingfan5

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    Right. Filming hasn't begun yet.
    With what liberties Hollywood has taken with other "remakes", it wouldn't have surprised me if they had made the character a blond Bond girl type in looks. :p
  23. IceAlisa

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    Saw The Girl Who Kicked The Hornets' Nest last night. While this book was my favorite, I thought this was the weakest of the three movies. It completely rides on the fabulous performance by Noomi Rapace, a woman of many faces.
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  24. genevieve

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    going to see this in a few hours!
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    I just saw 'hornet's next' very good, but in some ways the weakest of the 3 movies. I read all 3 books, and I understand books 2 & 3 were miniseries on tv that were much longer. That would explain any weaknesses. Lots of left out, due to time, but Lisbeth's story is there. When reading the book, especially the 3rd one, I could hear Lisbeth going F#$# Blomquist. None of that in the movie, missed that. Still worth seeing!
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  27. BigB08822

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    Was The Girl Who Played With Fire any good? I saw it available at the Red Box but wasn't sure if the other movies were anything as good as the Tattoo.
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    Yeah, I'm of two minds about the third one. I understand they had to cut out a LOT, and actually the cuts seemed cleaner in this film than the first two, but a lot of what made the series - particularly the third book - so thrilling was seeing how these very separate threads come together in the end.

    The one thing I've hated in all three films is how Erika Berger is portrayed. On film she's this quivering mess, in the book she's an incredibly strong character.

    I also had a tiny laugh at Lisbeth hopping back to bed during her recovery. Reminded me a bit of Cindy Brady when she was faking a foot injury
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg25RCC0nLA&feature=related
    (skip ahead to the 8 minute mark)
    :p
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  29. IceAlisa

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    One thing about the last movie is that it is not self-sufficient. You absolutely have to have read the books to get what's happening. Hubby who hasn't read the books but has seen the previous two movies was completely lost.

    Now I am at a difficulty to say whether this applies to any other series like say, Harry Potter and if people who haven't read the books can enjoy the movies.
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  30. smurfy

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    So agree that the cuts impact the quality of the movie.
    The other thing they left out of movie 2 & 3, which seem silly, but Lisbeth's development is the ommission of the her boob job. Seems minor, but I think it gave her confidence.
    And I totally agree, the 3rd movie, you need to have read the books. Possibly if you see all 3 movies in a row, but you need the books. Even though I knew how it would end, I still enjoyed the movies. But like the 3rd movie, as with the 3rd book, I think I was sad that the ride was coming to an end. There were so many people and knowing there were 10 planned books, I couldn't help but thnk these folks would pop up in later books and be rewarded with some cool stories.
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    I'm actually glad they left that out of the films. It was an example of a VERY male-centric writer trying to write from a feminine perspective, and one of the weaker parts of the story.

    Not that boob jobs don't give some women confidence; I just found it out of character for Lisbeth.
  32. musicgurl

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    I enjoyed the Harry Potter movies but I haven't read the books. But then I was relatively familiar with the story before I saw the movies.
    I do plan to read The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo before I watch the movie. I also plan on watching the original movie before I see the remake. Mostly because of reading this thread and hearing how good the movie is.
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  33. Nan

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    I've read all three books and seen the first two movies. I'm impatient for the third to hit video so I can see that, too. I have my doubts I'll get as lucky with the third as I did with the second and be able to see it on the big screen.

    I'm not completely sure any of the movies make complete sense if you haven't read the books, but I can't judge that accurately since I have read them.
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    I saw one of our board members at the 2nd movie - found out later that she hasn't read the books. She said she had to see the 2nd movie twice and was still confused.

    The third one felt more linear, like someone who had seen the other 2 films but hadn't read the books might have an easier time understanding the plot. I mean, there's a lot they wouldn't get, but it seemed like they'd get a complete story - just not the entire one from the book. Of course, having read the books, I could be completely wrong.
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    Well I haven't read the books but I saw the first one and thought it made sense. I didn't have any trouble following it, to be honest. However, now I wonder if I should see the 2nd one (it is streaming on Netflix) or read the books first. Hmm...
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    The first image of the American version! She looks good, not too different from the original. Also talks about why a couple of other actresses were passed over:

    http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2011/01/see_the_official_first_look_of.html

    I love that David Fincher is doing this, he usually does quite well. I just watched The Social Network last night so his name finally means something to me.
  37. IceAlisa

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    Noomi is much prettier IMO, better bone structure. The most important thing is, of course, is she going to be a good Salander?
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    And they wonder why we cringe at the Americanized remake? The writer really thinks he has a better ending? W Magazine "Changes it in crucial ways"???? WHY?
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    WHAT?????????? :lynch:
  40. genevieve

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    Well, for this character the look is pretty darned important - and I am relieved at the photo (even though the pose is silly). I think this Salander will be believable.

    Ok, them's fightin' words :lynch:

    Taking the optomist's POV, look at The Bourne Identity films. I loved those books as a teen, and the films make some major departures in the storyline, starting with the very first one. But they are still good films. Of course, it had been a decade since I'd read the last book when the first film came out, and as I learned with the fifth Harry Potter movie, distance from the source material can be a crucial part of enjoying a book adaptation.

    OTOH ---- WTF?!?!? :wall: