The Duggars - 20th child discussion

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by ilovepaydays, Nov 8, 2011.

  1. ilovepaydays

    ilovepaydays Well-Known Member

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    Yahoo! article - The Duggars Expecting 20th Child

    Wow. I actually thought that because of their youngest child (who if you have watched the show recently is almost two and I haven't seen walk unattended), they wouldn't do this.

    I know they have their beliefs and my faith teaches me that children should be a blessing to a family. But my faith also teaches me the value of wisdom. Just saying.
     
  2. nubka

    nubka Well-Known Member

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    :wall::wall::wall:
     
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  3. Twizzler

    Twizzler Well-Known Member

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    Dear Lord. Someone make it stop!!!!!!
     
  4. Veronika

    Veronika gold dust woman

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    My thoughts exactly!
     
  5. danceronice

    danceronice Corgi Wrangler

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    At least they can afford it. And how old is Mrs. Duggar? I mean, as far as the woman is concerned, it simply can't go on forever. (They don't believe in things like in vitro and extreme measures to force pregnancies in old women, right?)
     
  6. PDilemma

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    They can afford it because they have exploited the family in the media. So I'm not sure that is admirable.
     
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  7. milanessa

    milanessa engaged to dupa

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    Congratulations to them.
     
  8. birdgal

    birdgal New Member

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    I think this is madness, despite their religious beliefs. I hope the baby is healthy.
     
  9. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

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    I hope she is able to stay healthy during this pregnancy. I thought the long gap since the last one would mean the "Lord closed her womb".

    Although I don't think she does much to raise her children, the last thing all those kids needs is to loose their mother...
     
  10. Kasey

    Kasey Loving on babies!

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    Maybe her uterus will just fall out with this one. There has to be some parts of her just hanging by a thread at this point.
     
  11. ilovepaydays

    ilovepaydays Well-Known Member

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    Michelle is 45. Considering that she has had pre-eclampsia in the previous pregnancy, I think health concerns should have been thought out by this couple.

    Plus, check this info out from the March of Dimes:

     
  12. nerdycool

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    I'm surprised, but in only how long it took them. They've made it very clear in the past that birthing babies is the most important thing, even if it endangers the mothers' health. Considering her age though, I do think this'll be the last one. She 45.

    In a few of the more recent episodes, she's been shown walking under her own power. But she's a special case, because while she's technically almost 2, her adjusted age would be closer to 1 and a half. So considering all she's been though, I think she's coming along just fine, if just a little behind.
     
  13. taf2002

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    I'm not sure the younger kids would even notice if she wasn't there. It looks like she's going for the Guinness World record but sadly, she'll never make it. The record is 69 children from one woman. Google it if you don't believe me.

    ETA re the risk of Down's Syndrome, doesn't the youngest child have it?
     
  14. orbitz

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    I wonder why God hasn't put his foot down yet. Are the Duggards that genetically gifted that God wants them to continue to have a 20th child?

    ...

    Well now that she's pregnant, I do hope everything goes well for her.
     
  15. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

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    They haven't said she does.
     
  16. Tesla

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    I don't think so. I know she's a micro preemie, but I don't know if she has problems associated with that.

    I think maybe God tried to give the hint with Josie - preeclampsia, micro-preemie. They were extraordinarily lucky with Josie. And you know, 3.5 months or not, with her history, I wouldn't be saying a word to the world, just in case something went wrong. Then again, these are fame whores who aren't opposed to pimping out their family for money and freebies. :rolleyes:
     
  17. NeilJLeonard

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    I don't agree with their idea that the more you have, the better. Bordeline insanity, IMO.

    Still, despite my disagreement I wish mother a gentle pregnancy & a happy, healthy child. I've no doubt that the next little "J" will be welcomed into a loving family.

    NJL
     
  18. skatesindreams

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    Michelle and the baby nearly died during her last pregnancy.
    You would think that would be warning enough.

    I assumed that this was the "announcement" that TLC was promoting last night.

    ITA!
     
  19. DickButtonFan

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    And they all play an instrument!! Wouldn't you love to be in that house when they're all practicing?
     
  20. julieann

    julieann Well-Known Member

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    Verizon put up a cell tower on their property, they make a ton off of it.

    My mom had me at 42 in the early 70s and I'm basically normal. :shuffle:
     
  21. Really

    Really No longer just a "well-known member" Yay!

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    If they are supporting their family without social assistance or charity, and the kids are well-looked after, then I don't see where it's any of my business how many kids they have. Look at it another way...they're helping to ensure the population of tax-paying citizens remains enought to pay for gov't deficits.
     
  22. Fridge_Break

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    The radio station I was listening to on the way to work this morning said that this was a "feel-good breaking news story." I sat there thinking :wall: the entire time they were covering it.
     
  23. milanessa

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    I've always been a little puzzled as to why people get so upset about this family. Whatever happened to "live and let live"?
     
  24. KHenry14

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    I'd be real interested to revisit this family in 20 years to see how all these children turned out. I bet more than a few PHd thesis' will be written about this family
     
  25. danceronice

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    Bet they'll be better-off mentally than any children unfortunate enough to be born to some OTHER reality-show families (God help us if the Jersey Shore people ever reproduce.) At least their parents, to all appearances, love each other, love their children, and aren't having screaming matches for the cameras, locking each other out, and Daddy hasn't taken off to spend his network checks on hookers and blow.

    Since they're not sucking up my tax dollars or teaching their children to do likewise, or literally whoring themselves out with sex videos and begging for millions in wedding gifts, mazel tov. It's her health and her baby, not my business to tell her what risks to take.
     
  26. Yazmeen

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    I think one of the issues is that their older kids don't really get a choice to not become surrogate parents, minding the kids, doing the chores, etc. here. The simple fact is that two parents cannot take care of 20 kids on their own and give each child enough attention. Yes, kids should help around the house; however, these kids live an extremely regimented life. Are they happy? Possibly. But are they missing out on many things kids their own age do while they live in the tribe? Probably.

    I was born to a 45 year old mother, turned out fine. However, I'm 53, and my mother died 25 years ago in her early 70s - barely lived long enough to see me get married. And as a former OB/Gyn, I can tell you that human beings are not designed to produce so many babies. After her last pregnancy, she has a fairly high risk to die in childbirth. And what personally chaps my hide is that her husband will likely mourn, but declare it "God's will" and find some (younger) gullible little evangelical to marry and perpetuate the whole process with again.
     
  27. danceronice

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    Older kids raising/helping raise younger kids just happens in big families. Dad's older sisters had to help with him and his younger brother, since their mother died not long after the youngest was born. (They had another sibling die of whooping cough. Just happened in those days.) That's just how it goes.

    Again, they're self-sufficient and have been since before they had the show, so none of my business. Now, if you're sucking up welfare checks, I think you should face a choice of no assistance or a tubal. But if you're paying for it, it's your life.
     
  28. hydro

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    I do agree with you that it isn't a big deal that they do what they do. It doesn't really even bother me that they have a reality tv show, I'm sure they have a built-in audience, and it will probably help take care of the family for years.

    However, they do receive significant tax breaks and benefits a typical family would not. I remember reading that they pay no property tax on their home because it is considered a "church" with residential occupants. Of course it's nothing illegal, but it is certainly using significant loopholes.
     
  29. Skittl1321

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    They haven't received welfare, but they received plenty of state assistance when Josie was in the hospital. All micro-premies are entitled to it, but you don't have to take it...

    I don't know what their current situation is, but they previously have said they do not have insurance for most/all of their children, and use the ER for all treatment (that may have been the Bateses now that I think about it...) Obviously we've seen Josie get routine check ups, but those very well may have been covered by the state assistance she got.

    And if TLC hadn't come to rescue them when their rental home was destroyed, and their house was only 1/4 built, I don't think we'd be saying they are self-sufficient.

    My biggest problem is the way they present themselves as being so "Christian" and yet they lie like crazy. My favorite is when they say they don't know what "Quiverfull" is, and yet early links to their website show a link to a quiverfull site. I also think the Gothard guy that they follow is dangerous, and I feel terrible for their children.
     
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  30. milanessa

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    I was actually thinking about what you were saying until this. :rolleyes: