The Ashley Wagner Cheer Thread!

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  1. lulu

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    I can't wait to see Ashley's LP tonite. She's a true champion in every meaning of the word.
  2. jiejie

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    I'll agree with this. The R&J needs to be buried in the deepest vault never to be seen again. This S&D is a much better LP in terms of music and construction and better than the previous S&D. And it is a good fit with Ashley's style and personality. I liked the dress....I mean "suit of armor" too. :D She does have some things to clean up before Worlds, and I'm looking forward to seeing this program again.

    Did Ashley and Rafael work together to adjust the choreography on the S&D? I'm assuming David Wilson was not involved, and hopefully if she continues skating after this season, she'll avoid Wilson in the future. She ought to get her money back for that R&J.
  3. bronwynsings

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  4. lulu

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    Just saw Ashley's LP. Wow. I just have so much respect for this woman, for the person she is both on and off the ice.
    To think that she was actually receiving death threats after the Olympic selection, and for her to have the strength to regroup, honor her own vision for her skating and change her LP right before the Olympics-and to go out and skate like she did in that LP is amazing. Yes, she's going to need to work on making sure her second jump in her 3-3 jump is fully rotated, but she absolutely fought for that jump, and I have no doubt that Ashley will continue to work on that and continue to constantly fight and improve her skating, and whether she medals at worlds or even makes the Olympic team in 4 years, I don't know what more anyone can ask for. She is a wonderful representative for U.S. figure skating. :kickass:
  6. Doozy

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    That yellow dress is HIDEOUS! She did not have the respect of the judges, and was booed (whistled) by the crowd. It's time to retire, Ashley.

    And how ironic that she's now crying about bad judging damaging the sport, after the questionable way she got on the team.
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  7. cbd1235

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    I agree! What she was able to achieve is actually unbelievable considering everything that was stacked against her. I won't forget her FS from this event, it's the Wagner skate that I will keep rewatching time after time, she totally sold the program. Can't wait to see it again at worlds!

    I hope she takes this summer with Raf and tackles re-learning a proper lutz, it will make a huge point difference moving forward.

    WTF are you doing here? I actually thought the dress was one of the nicest of the ladies event, and really stunning. She looked amazing in it, and it was 10x better than the first Samson dress.

    The judges also gave her a very large PCS score, the 7th highest of the night in the most packed ladies field figure skating has ever seen, and the strongest night of ladies figure skating in history.

    She is certainly respected. That was a kick-ass skate. And there were no boos at all?
  8. TalentedButHumble

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    Where was it reported she got those kinds of threats. (Not that I doubt it could happen)
  9. lulu

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    From the Time article on her costume designer:


    http://keepingscore.blogs.time.com/2014/02/18/ashley-wagner-figure-skating-costume/
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    Why bother fixing her lutz? Adelina has a blatant flutz, and it didn't stop her from HANDILY beating Yuna and Carolina, who actually have correct technique on their flips and lutzes. :scream:
  11. cbd1235

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    ^ True. But there's nobody in the background buying Ashley a medal so she needs to do everything it takes.

    I agree it might not seem worth it, but Ashley needs to fight for every point she can get. If she fixed her lutz, upgraded her spins, and kept her consistency up then she could gain a lot of points right there, maybe a solid 5 points per FS. If she doesn't make changes, she's just going to stay where she is in the world.. It seems the scoring system is no longer looking for a package, they just want high GOE on every element and decency through the rest. Unfortunately, GOE is not Ashley's friend.
  12. Karpenko

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    So proud of her and she is just so cool. :)
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    GO ASHLEY. She skated brilliantly. I prefer her over Gracie in every way. Good on her for calling out the judges.
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    So she'll go to Worlds and continue? Woohoo! :encore: :cheer:
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    I missed the skating yesterday. I didn't find out until this morning that Gracie fell on the LP. Did Ashley stay on her feet?
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    Yes, but she had two two foots. Either way I'm so proud of her. I've been her fan since 2007 and I really hope I get to see her again before leaving the Olympics. I hope she's coming to the closing ceremonies!

    I was talking with my mom this morning who was fuming over Yuna getting silver and the second thing she said was... The girl in the yellow dress. She skated amazingly but why was her score so low? Even people with no knowledge of the sport know how well she skated. Although I'm not a fan of this Russian crowd, it was nice to see them boo when Ashley's scores came up.
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  18. Ilyich

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    Not my favorite, but I wouldn't call it hideous.

    Maybe so, but hardly anyone respects the judges from this event, so that doesn't mean much. If she had been Russian, her scores would have been higher.

    A crowd that has been widely criticized for being the rudest and most partisan the sport has seen in a long time.

    But the judging at nationals put her in fourth. The controversy was over the selection committee's decision. It's an entirely different situation.
  19. lulu

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    I absolutely loved Ashley's new version of the marigold dress. A stunning color on her....unique and standout. I loved her skates here and do not understand her low balling by the judges, especially relative to Lip with falls and flip outs. I just love her fierce and spunky personality. I hope she continues and uses
    Kostner as a role model who really improved in her mid to late 20's.
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    I absolutely loved Ashley's new version of the marigold dress. A stunning color on her....unique and standout. I loved her skates here and do not understand her low balling by the judges, especially relative to Lip with falls and flip outs. I just love her fierce and spunky personality. I hope she continues and uses
    Kostner as a role model who really improved in her mid to late 20's.
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  23. crs

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    I didn't know the russians olys had to be the americans olys lol! as for bad judgiing,like I said on another post, just wait till the next olys in south korea. Is going to be much worse for americans and russians lol!
  24. iarispiralllyof

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    Is she retiring?
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    Commending Ashley for giving a great performance. And speaking out to the farce of the scoring/judges.
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    I love her control on the ice !
    Yes, she was not perfect in the LP, but she tried her best, and fought for everything. Very very nice spirit !
    CONGRATS !
  27. MrLucky

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    This morning on the "Today Show" Ashley said she had no complaints about the medalists.
    I think she must be upset that Julia was scored so high after skating far from her best. I happen to agree.
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    are you sure she was not talking about gracie gold? lol!
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    honestly, I think she was talking about cop. Gracie fell in LP. Julia fell in both the sp and LP. But cop allows for such things. Mao fell in the sp, and despite her amazing LP for the ages, only cop would allow her to vault over Ashley with such a disasterous sp.
  31. crs

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    Wrong. It was Mao's Body of Work that allowed her to vault over Ashley.
  32. Johnny_Fever

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    That's better than falling. The TV viewers don't know the significance of two footing, but if you're sitting on your butt, they know that's bad.
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    I took the crowd's response to be aimed at the judges for lowballing Ashley's score.
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  35. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa Port de bras!!!

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    Um, Emily? Ashley's opening combo is a triple flip/triple toe. If you want to sound semi-competent, please learn the difference.

    And you do, Emily? You do?


    FTR, Sotnikova jumps higher than Kim.

    What a hack.
  36. Doozy

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    I'll check the recording when I get home, but would you be surprised if it was not about the scores? You realize there was a lot of outrage about her being named to the team over Mirai. Did you really think people have forgotten about that so quickly?
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    :huh:
    COP doesn't have factored placements, so skaters who falter in the SP can rise much quicker in the standings with a good LP that they could under the 6.0 used in the later years. WTH does "Body of Work" mean? That she had more experience to channel her inner strength and rebound? That she got higher PCS due to reputation judging? She placed higher because COP scored her higher and there is no mark that I know of for "Body of Work".
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  39. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa Port de bras!!!

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    Or how about not using that word at all? Someone has already clued Ashley in why she shouldn't use that word. Do you need the explanation too?
  40. Spareoom

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    Pretty sure the Russian crowd did not give two flips over what US ladies were at the Olympics. Or anyone else, after Ashley laid down two clean short programs. If you think the booing was about anything other than her scores, you're looking for too much drama. Ashley had, to the casual viewer's eyes, a clean program. To see her end up in 6th must have confused people who didn't know about base scores or two foots.