The 2013 Season of Champions Curling Championships

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  1. kylet3

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    The girls have got on a bit of a roll now and are starting to figure things out and I think now are finally settled. Of course of all the three I would like them to play Switzerland out of the breakers in the 3 vs 4, but I think it'll likely be the US or Russia that they have to face. Scotland and Sweden have showed that they have been the class of the week. with Homan as a very solid third place. I believe Sweden is playing the best and the favorite to win the event, but with Homan on her streak and playing very well, she will be very difficult to beat. Will be an interesting weekend!
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    :wall::wall::wall:

    Oh boy... Homan had that game in her back pocket, tie game with hammer and played it open only for Muirhead to steal it at the last minute. I don't think she had enough ice for the last double, take an inch or two more and that likely doesn't jam. To lose like that is going to devastate Rachel. I don't know how they rebound after that. But they have to, losing to the USA for bronze would NOT be good. Ugh, that sucks.
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    Did you see Rachel's face? She was so angry at herself. I hope they rebound for tomorrow's bronze medal game but either way, it's an amazing learning experience. And Eve Muirhead's team is human after all :lol:. They made some silly mistakes.
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    She needed an inch more ice......what a heartbreak for Rachel and team. A very valuable lesson for sure. There will be other years and other chances with this brilliant young team. The better bring it tomorrow for the bronze game......Wishing them good luck.
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    I have to hand it to Rachel, she really was able to park a devastating loss and rebound nicely in that bronze medal game. I do attribute that to Earle Morris who is a very calming influence, and probably was able to talk with them and park that and come back. I do think that the scorers were kinda B/S today. Jessica Schulz at 89%? Emma Miskew at 83%? :rofl: Maybe 10 points less if they were lucky, both had a lot of misses in that game. I was expecting Erika to come out guns blazing and really take it to Rachel, but that just didn't happen. Rachel was calm, and played the quiet game absolutely brilliantly. I'm sure it's still going to sting not being that final, but Rachel has had a great season, winning the Scotties and a couple of big WCT events and still have the Players Championship to go, a World Bronze Medal and a likely spot in the Olympic Trials. They have a lot to build on and look forward to.
  6. kylet3

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    Poor Margaretha Sigfridsson, she has to be wondering what she has to do in order to win a world title. This is the fourth final that she has lost. :scream: I didn't see the whole game but it looks like a missed double for 4 and instead giving up a steal of two is what did it. Gotta hand it to Muirhead though, only 23 and 4 time World Junior Champion, European Champion and now World Champion. I have to think that this sets her up as nearly a prohibitive favorite for Sochi 2014, I know a number of teams are contenders, but I think this may be the beginning of a dynasty for Muirhead. She's young and has the potential to dominate this game for a generation. Muirhead is a great curler but she strikes me as an absolute spoiled arrogant princess, now winning this young isn't going to help that. I think the Swedish Federation has an interesting conundrum on its hands. Yes Sigfridsson has been runner up the last two times but Norberg won it in 2011, they may feel she has more experience on her hands and go with her team. I at least hope there is some kind of a trials process to determine who goes to Sochi. Just now finding out that Sigfridsson actually LOST the Swedish Final to Norberg but still was sent to Worlds... I'm wondering if they may be regretting that now...

    The focus now turns to the Canadian Olympic Trials and who will be selected as the rep for Canada in Sochi. Will be an interesting next season!
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    Here's hope Team Homan make it to the Olympics. If anyone can beat Muirhead, it's her team I truly believe.
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    It is hard to say what the Swedish curling assocation and the great Peja Lindholm who picks the teams is thinking now. On one sense it is hard to be upset with Sigfridsson/Prytz and their team, it is another strong showing at a major event. On the other hand they again fail to win a final of an event they dominated. Atleast Maria Prytz didnt throw in the 60s like she often does in big games after throwing in the 90s much of the week, but she still missed numerous critical shots at the worst times. Their justification for sending Team Sigfridsson/Prytz over Team Norberg the last 2 seasons was their strong showing on the tour and other events in Europe through the season. However Peja himself should know that Champions like Anette know how to big event, and their standings on tour and their season really dont factor much into that. Team Sigfridsson/Prytz could have almost guaranteed themselves going to Sochi had they won, but now it will be a tough choice.
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    And a big congrats to Team Canada (Brad Jacobs et al.) for their 1st win against China..........Wow!!! Keep it up boys :D
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    They're not nervous which is a good sign, They played well, man did Sweden escape with their lives against Finland! Canada can't take them lightly in the morning, that's for sure!
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    The Finnish team lost some steam in the middle, and I didn't feel a lot of direction happening from Kauste. It was easy to see the momentum shift.

    The game between SWE and RUS was much tighter, and, again, Edin just scraped through on a missed last shot from skip Drozdov. I say missed, but I'm sitting in the middle without the best view of a far sheet, and it's possible that it was an impossible situation in which to score. Talk about a nail-biter, though.

    CHN whipped CZE: they steamed ahead with a 5, which I missed, because I was watching the Japanese team against Scotland. What a contrast in styles: the Japanese were mostly finesse, while Scotland was throwing a lot of weight around. I thought SCO would dominate, but JPN made it close.

    Tomorrow, I'm going to grab a seat on the ends. There were lots of empty seats today all around the arena. It was :cold: in there. If anyone is planning to come for round-robin, especially this weekend or early in the week, bring a lap blanket and gloves :cold:

    I'm no teknik, but these are my observations:

    Except for the Chinese skip, Rui Liu -- a rock of a skip -- I'm not sure the Chinese and Japanese teams are old enough to drink. The Japanese team had so much product in their hair, they made Takahashi's use of it look conservative. The Japanese men almost never yelled. Thomas Ulsrud made up for it by screaming more than all of the other teams combined. He was, predictably, tan.

    I'm not so sure the cutie CZE alternate Jakub Bares, is legal, either. They had him play with the Snitil's and Kitzberger in the afternoon and Vydra, who looks like a college professor, in the evening. I hope he gets to play more over the next two days.

    The Danes also look very young from across the arena, but mid-twenties-young, not need-fake-ID-for-the-bar young. The Finnish team is 3-for-4 hair (head and facial) voidy; the fourth looks like the token yuppie. First Janne Pitko has the most amazing smile. Is it a rule that the Finnish skip has to be a giant?

    The Canadian team looks like it spends a lot of time in the gym, looking at their upper bodies, but Fry is really annoying throwing things around. Brad Jacobs has lovely eyes. The Russian team has a giant first, Petr Dron, and he's usually waiting around with second Alexey Tselousov, who barely comes to his shoulder. Whenever Tselousov talks to Dron, it looks like he's using Dron's upper arm as a microphone. They make a good team, though: they almost nest when they're sweeping. The skip, Drozdov, looks like Yagudin in profile. They almost took Edin out tonight, and they look serious about Sochi.

    I spent the afternoon watching the :grope:, :grope:, :grope:, :grope: Swedes against the :inavoid:, :inavoid:, :inavoid:, yuppie Finns, because why give up an opportunity to be superficial?
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    I just got a look at the program with the team listings and short bios, and I am wrong about all of their ages. As a whole, curlers are not photogenic: almost all of them look 100 times better in real life, except the CZE team which did an almost Broadway pose in theirs and used up their entire yearly smile and charisma quota in the effort.

    The Chinese men who look so jail-baity? 28, 22, and 25 (Zang, the Harry Potter lookalike). The cute Czech? 25. The Japanese team: 28, 28, 25, 24. The Canadians and Americans look 5-10 years older than they actually are, which is understandable for Philip Tilker, because being a developer at amazon.com will do that to you. I didn't realize the US team was from Seattle, which is just a hop, skip, and a Victoria Clipper ride away from Victoria, which might account for the number of US fans in the audience last night. I also thought Edin was older, because I was calculating how :swoon: he would be when he was 50, only to realize I'd be 150 by then, and now it looks like I'll be 160 by then.
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    I see what you mean about the Finns. Not usually a fan of ponytails on guys but I could be convinced. ;)
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    Finns - that guys hair is down to his waist. I bet he never has to wear a hat in the winter time. :lol:

    Interesting game so far.
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    Finns came out on fire this morning but glad to see Jacobs and co pulled themselves together. Good game.

    In other news, I thought I couldn't love Ulsrud and his funky pants more than I already did. :swoon:
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    Ulsrud is also playing with some kind of infection under one his teeth in the gums, sounds like an abscess :scream:

    Jacobs and team were a bit fortunate to come out of that one alive. They definitely had a brain fart for two ends where they gave up a 4 and then were forced, but good for him for getting thins a bit more figured out. I think the Finns just don't play enough and have enough consistency, if they get out there a bit more, then they have potential.

    Brad has to step it up a bit more otherwise Scotland will pounce on any mistakes they may make. I expect tonight to be a barnburner!
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    The Finns had 2 lucky shots that were not called but benefitted them immensely in that (4 ender). So happy that Team Canada didn't get rattled about it but showedd some patience and came back sure and steady. Good game to watch on TV with the commentary. Love how buff those guys are.......shoulders, arms, etc :D. Have to tape the one tonight as it starts at 10 pm........I hate falling asleep during a game ;)
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    The voidy Finns are trying to kill me: they called it quits way to early tonight, not because they were out of it, but because they were eight rows away from me on Sheet A, argh! No fair :drama:

    According to a newspaper supplement about the championships that they were giving out in the arena, "Aku Kauste and his boys finished third during their national qualifying marathon but here they are, by some quirk of fate. Where's Markku Uusipaavalniemi? He finished fourth." That would explain why they don't have a lot of mileage. I can't believe the stamina and concentration these guys have, and the Finns tend to sag in the middle. Against Denmark, they didn't even come out strong or with a big end to take the lead, like in their first two games.

    The supplement also noted that Rui Liu and the Chinese team have been playing internationally and won at Grand Prairie recently, and that Edin and the Swedes "[w]on the Bear Mountain cash scrap last weekend, knocking off Martin, Stoughton and McEwen, in that sudden-death order."

    Too bad about Ulsrud's tooth. There are really good dentists in Victoria.

    The Norwegians are alternating between the pants that look like the Norwegian flag and another pair that are almost like thin bricks of alternating color, except the edges are like lightening bolts. It takes cajones to have a stylized lightening bolt across your crotch.

    Even though I was watching the Finns and the Danes, the crows was in the CAN vs. SCO game, and the TSN coverage was shown (without sound) in the arena. CAN looked confident and focused. Almost the entire section filled with SCO fans, who've been singing and cheering at each game, disappeared as soon as that game was over. The NOR vs. JPN was in the farthest sheet from me, and when they were the only ones left playing, I could finally see them. Earlier today, team JPN started throwing a lot more weight, but even so, they looked so elegant with their throws. What I'm most impressed with is how patient they seem.

    I don't know if they showed this on TV, but the teams that are playing for the day march around the rink in a circuit before taking their places at the starting end, except for one team that's at mid-ice. The announcer introduces the coach, alternate, and then lead through skip. There was some contest for young curlers, and two winners were paired with each team, to get photos with the team and team swag and to talk to the players. They introduced the kids, and then they played the national anthem of the country. I think they're using the really great arrangements that the Vancouver Symphony Orchestra recorded for the Olympics, but the arena sound system is pretty crappy or the sound engineers have done a crappy job with the levels. I've seen Japan, China, the US, and Finland. I missed this morning because I was lagging :coffee:

    Both the Swedish skip Kauste and the second Jaames have waist-length hair, if you count the dreadlocks. Jaames has been creating different dos for each shirt. I still like the lead guy, Pitko, with the killer smile. The CZE guys, particularly the Snitils usually look so serious, but they caught one of the brothers on camera kind of smiling.
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    Wow, just wow for Team Canada. That is such a significant win against Scotland.........and a decisive one too. Top of the leaderboard for now :). I hope they can hang in there for a medal......any color. :)
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    Well so much for that being a barnburner... I didn't realize the Scots were in on a 5 player rotation system.. I've never liked that idea at all, and while sometimes it works, more often than not it doesn't and Murdoch proved that last night. I think they need to sit Murdoch and go back to the original 4, these guys have been runners up in the world for the last two years, and now with the Scottish Curling Fed trying to insert Murdoch in the team, it's like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, it just doesn't work. Murdoch is a fabulous player, but it takes time for a team to form chemistry, learn what the other is all about, learn releases, etc. Brewster and the crew from 2011 and 2012 had been together for a while, If they're smart, I think they should sit Murdoch and let the original foursome curl a few games together, and watch the percentages rise.

    Sweden and Norway aren't convincing me just yet, I thought Edin would be 3-0 right now, but losing to China, they just may surprise some teams.
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    Wow, Brad Jacobs and team are just ridonculous. The shots and the angles that they are making for a team this YOUNG is just sickening... and they haven't even reached their full plateau yet. I think Ryan Fry is just now starting to play to his potential. He spent all those years with Brad Gushue and I think may have been held back a bit. I think he's found his niche with this team. He's just making absolutely everything right now. Of course it helps that EJ Harnden is making angle runback doubles and triples and making them look easy.

    If they keep this up, they won't be caught. The team who is surprising me is Sweden, Niklas has escape with a lot of wins yes, but I noticed today he's off, throwing peel up weight for simple takeouts that only require hack-to board type weight, he has got to calm down otherwise he will be cannon fodder for Jacobs and team.
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    In the rink, from where I was sitting, it was much easier to see the angles on the TSN coverage on the jumbotron. Jacobs and group were spectacular.

    Edin must be going through some Strinbergian angst out there: he's all over the place.

    China's been really impressive: they've had all kinds of games, and they seem to be keeping their cool.

    They've been giving out a daily paper with info and stats about the players and the games from the day before. Fry's % was 96%. (Russian Lead Petr Dron's was 100% against CZE.)

    The explanation for why Kauste and Co. are playing when they came in third at this year's nationals is that last year's nationals determine who will compete at Euros and Worlds, and they were first last year. It also gives them the spot in the Olympic curling version of Nebelhorn: two slots (20%) of the field will be chosen in an Olympic qualifier, instead of their most current best team. The top eight at Worlds' country will be qualified automatically. (They must have a system for breaking ties.) I still don't get the feeling that Kauste is the leader, unless he murmurs something to third Sullanmaa and Sullanmaa is his field captain. I just get energy from Sullanmaa that I don't get from Kauste. The coach is Oona Kauste: she must be sister, wife, or cousin, because if she's his mother, she's more a miracle of nature than the Helgessen's mother. I just saw that Lead Pitko's occupation is "Professional poker player," which may explain everything.

    I thought that the Italian team got an automatic bye at 2005 Worlds and at the Olympics, and there was nothing in the article that said anything about Russia getting a spot. If the host is guaranteed one, does that mean only one spot is available at the Olympic qualifier if Russia is not one of the Top 8 teams in Victoria? Or would they go to the qualifier, and if they're not top 2, there's no Russian team in Sochi?

    The Czech team has a complicated qualification system, too. There's a double round robin and playoffs, and the finals are next week. Snitil and his team have to go home to earn a spot for next year, with the best of three taking it. Jiri Snitil was quoted as saying that it was hard for his team to qualify last year for this year's championships against David Sik's team.

    I'm not sure the writer was amused or appalled that Ulsrud's rink qualified by bringing in Scotsman Ewan MacDonald to play for him. Also, the alternate Hoiberg, who has played, is the skip of the guy Ulsrud's team beat for the spot, and the regular alternate, Lovold, is now playing because Nergaard's wife is having a baby.

    The young Czech Bares played in all games through this morning; the four of Vydra, Kitzberger, Snitil, Snitil played against Sweden. The Russians really moved it around today: they brought in alternate Anton Kalalb as lead, resting Petr Dron, and then skip Drozdov threw second. I can't remember if regular second Tselousov threw last or if he moved to third and Stukalskiy threw last, but they didn't just do a 1:1 swap.
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    The Czechs beat Canada :eek:, that is a bigger upset than when the Italian women beat Canada last year. Wow. But, I have to hand it to Jiri Snitil, he curled in the 90% range and Brad didn't play well, so the Czech Republic deserves this win. Canada still has another game tonight and it's a tough one against Ulsrud. I think now that teams will see Canada is beatable and Norway is no slouch, so I expect Jacobs to be in tough again tonight.
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    Scotland, Sweden, and Norway should be taking out the Czechs for :40beers:
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    Here's hoping Brad the the boyz bounce back tonight...they've done it before not too long ago :). Brad admitted they (he) had a bad game.......it happens to the best of them.
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    Bounce back they did, there were a couple of stupid mistakes against Norway (IE that heavy draw) but they were again solid tonight and it was good to win especially with the USA upsetting Scotland so back into first place! Relatively easy day, should beat Japan and Russia without too many problems :)
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    Ssssshhhh, not so loud. ;)
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    Yeah some more stupid mistakes against Japan... They're a talented team, I played against them back in my junior days, they walloped us 10-3, but I'm surprised they haven't done better, they need to be over here more, but with time and costs, it's extremely difficult.
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    Japan just scored 3 in the 7th against Canada. Not sure I'll watch the PVR when I get home. :(
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    Canada just got two back in the 8th.
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    :wall: ugh. Credit to Japan, skipper played lights out, but there was really no excuse for them losing that game. They played two stupid ends and it cost them, I'm not sure what's going on, but they've had more than one brain fart this week, I think that's inexperience at this level even with them winning the Brier. Not much of a rest now. They have GOT to get it back together because they face two of the best teams this week tomorrow. Time to put it out of sight and get it back together and show us what we were seeing at the beginning of the week!
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    Kudos to Japan: they are a very impressive team. I loved watching them earlier in the week, before I had to get back: their style of play is very elegant.
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    I don't want to point any fingers, but.....
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    You think the curling gods and skate gods converse? :lol:
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    It was agony watching the last 4 ends of the Canada-Japan game. Japan deserved that win. I just hope the Canadians can pull themselves together before they hit the finals.
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    I think they're one and the same -- they just change into Norwegian team type pants during curling events. :)
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    :rofl::rofl::rofl:
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    A great game vs. Russia........and another win........hope they enjoy their rest now and get that mojo back for the rest of the week.
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    Obviously I put my foot in my mouth this morning assuming they'd beat Japan. It was a hell of a tight finish against the Russians, the numbers tell a different story, but they made some nice shots in that game, and really kept things close. It felt like a tight battle the entire way through. It doesn't get any easier tomorrow, but now they can get some sleep, not playing till the afternoon should help them. If they win out, they get first place which is a huge advantage. I take nothing for granted. Stejrne (spelling) is a tenacious little youknowwhat and will not give up until the last stone is thrown. Never say die. Everyone knows about Edin's talent, he's still a bit off this week, but he can make runback triples and quad take-outs in his sleep so who knows what will happen. They win and they're in. Hopefully they'll be up for it!
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    Stjerne brings the pretty, and I hope the cameramen agree.