Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by Emdee, Nov 20, 2013.
Thanks! The first pic = *IAmDead*
They are so expressive also in practice! Fantastic!
I am so excited and nervous at the same Time. I so want them to win.
Me too krystha!!!!
I almost want them to win this more than Olys or Worlds. It would be so sweet for them to finally take the GPF. Remember I said *almost*
Do so: we do that everyone of us wants that they win GPF, Olys and Worlds
Here are my screen caps and gifs of Carmen from SOI http://fenice.forumcommunity.net/?t=54782177&p=389714737
Good vision, hope you enjoy
Thank you! I enjoy your gifts
I personally think that if V/M happen to win one section (SD or FD) they have a chance at winning the Olympics. But the winner for GPF is obviously already decided.
How do you know this?
Maybe because of what judges said on FSU? And VM season score?
Just based on the scoring that happened during the Grand Prix. V/M do have an edge on the SD and it would be criminal for D/W to beat them there. But their FD needs work.
The judges said something on FSU? What they said?
In "V&M vs D&W - Help from dance experts out there! (no uber fans please)" thread comment from Australian judge and comments on CCTV5 from judge from China, who worked on 2012 WCh
My thoughts are opposite - they will give them GPF but Olys is decided....
But I have been saying Ohmmmmm whenever I get agitated and then I enjoy looking at their programs. That is the trade off for us ubers. Not medals and victory but great programs that will be forever remembered.
I like to think the opposite because V/M lost GPF in 2009 but they ended up winning Olympics
I have a hard time beliveing those experts because you never know if that ISU meeting was endorsed or lobbied by the USFSA. Alot of ice dancers and coaches backed up V/M after their unwarranted loss with Carmen and maybe USFSA PR wanted to make sure that everyone knew D/W deserved to win. I think out of all opinions I trust Zhulin the most. He competed in ice dancing did that Chinese judge compete in Ice Dancing as well?
I've not doubt that V/M went back after their last GP and worked on their FD a lot. They always examine their performances after a competition and come back stronger.
I read the Australian judge's comments and my impression is that the judge thinks V/M are superior, but D/W just tick off more boxes under the system. (Maybe other people will read the comments differently.) Makes me think that V/M can just adjust certain moves to tick more boxes.
Do I think V/M have a chance at Olympics? Yes. They are a special, once-in-a-generation team. I personally think they are on their way to being legends. When I think of teams deserving to be two-time Olympic gold medallists, they are the first ones to come to mind.
I just hope that the results won't be fixed like it is in Synchronized swimming.
I like D/W but for me they are not as much passionate and good as V/M.
They are legends yes, and I hope for the both of them that they will be judged fairly and that the judges will see that they are superior.
I think you nailed it. In fact, it's what Skate Canada should have done in 2012 for V/M after the negative stuff coming from the American camp.
What are ISU judges doing commenting on a figure skating fan forum? Surely that's not allowed.
I don't think any ISU judges were commenting on a figure skating forum?
According to the previous page of posts on this thread, they were.
The Australian poster they are talking about is not an ISU judge but a local judge in Australia. The Chinese judge was commentating on a GP event broadcast (I believe) and a poster wrote in another thread what was said.
Still, the Australian had to be accredited by their federation and the Chinese judge would be ISU. I'm just aghast that any judge, unless retired, would be giving public commentary of any sort.
At least one ISU judge posts on FSU (Joe Inman, who authored the pre-Vancouver e-mail about Plushenko's transitions) so apparently it is allowed.
TS skate before MC ... oh my ... the screen of live score will put on me crazy anxiety! It is deadly, puts stress! LoL
I hope TS will be relaxed and calm and will enjoy to skate both programs that they loved
Probably it's good for them - perhaps they will be a bit less nervous than skating after Meryl and Charlie? At least I hope so.
I agree with this. I rather see Scott and Tessa skate first. Practice photos: http://photography.ice-dance.com/2013-14/13GPF/SrDPrWed/ Tessa and Scott look like they're having so much fun! I can't wait to see FD practices is it tomorow?
And the Australian judge seemed to flip out big time when people wanted to know her credentials, something that seemed reasonable, so who knows if she really is a judge.
I don't think that this was necessary. Aussie Willy seemed a bit surprised at other people discussing her competence and status as a judge without asking her first, but she explained her "credentials" extensively enough when she had time. I wouldn't call that "flipping out". And before you ask, no, I don't know her personally, and I don't agree with what she wrote in that thread.
She is a judge.
All this talk of Carmen and I had to watch it again. I still can't believe they didn't win the FD. *sigh* ... but I digress.
Can't wait to see what they bring this weekend.
I don't know what the comments were - I don't read skater vs. skater threads - but it certainly leaves an impression of bias because she is doing it with an 'official' stamp. Already a few posters have taken the comments to mean that V/M have already lost the GP. How is that right?
It wasn't like that. People had doubts about certain calls and they asked AW. That was it, no one was there on an official status. As for the other comments, those were made by a another judge on television, not here. I think people should go to that thread and read what's being said and make their own conclusions. I think some of you are mixing both judges up.
Basically, the gist of her comments were how she didn't understand at first how D/W were scored higher than V/M because V/M has some much difficulty in their program but then after taking this course/seminar, she understood better how D/W seemed to meet certain "criteria" better than V/M, meaning better scores. I don't think she was being bias, I think she was just trying to provide some clarification to us, who often wonder the same thing.
I think it comes down to the fact that COP simply doesn't reward the type of difficulty that V/M have in their programs nearly as much as it should.
Aussie Willy IS a judge who has on several occasions taken the time to explain things from a judge's point of view. She has gone out of her way to be helpful including taking the time to watch a skater I worked with a couple of years ago to help her improve artistically. Whether posters agree with what she has to say or not is their prerogative but she has never been unprofessional in any way that I have ever seen and certainly not in the thread in question.
V/M are probably on the Ice right now praticing. Part of me wants to stay up later to see if new info comes up - Did anyone here go to Fukuoka to watch the practices?
Can anyone tell me how the start order is determined for GPF?
I believe it is the order in which they qualified.
Also, Elina posted this on her twitter: http://lumo-skate.com/social/virtue-and-moir
For SD/SP, it's reverse placement determined by how many points you earned over your two grand prix events. If there is a tie, like V/M and D/W did, it goes by total score earned over the two events (or highest total earned in one event, I can't remember). Since D/W had higher total scores than V/M, they qualified 1st and skate last. FD is reverse placement from SD IIRC.
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