TESSA & SCOTT #33 Our Living Legends

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  1. Golightly

    Golightly Well-Known Member

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    The twizzles are not an issue. Why tinker with something that's working? In fact, they got great GOE for them last weekend. They should focus on things that need work. Again, your or my perception of the program is irrelevant. For you it might need to be "lighter", for me it needs to be more aggressive on the darker parts, but, in the end, these are perceptions that are irrelevant to what we are seeing on the protocols. Address the levels it's what they need to do.
  2. cgirl8

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    Was there a specific thing that a fan said? It just goes to the beginning of the video for me and I can't tell if it's just my computer acting up. :)
  3. Golightly

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    Oh! Sorry, I do not know how to make time stamps. Any one knows? It's on the 917-second mark. That's what the time stamp says, but I don't know.

    Does this work? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM-24h8WMOg#t=917s (It's on the 15-min mark more or less? The fan starts telling them something and Scott says something... I can't hear it)
  4. pani

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    On English? She said she fell in love with TS in 2008 after she saw "Dare to move" at WCh. She didnt watch ice dance before this.
    As for CDs. Look like now Scott understand this. He said about CD and OD part show the difference between teams. Oh, Scott, and how you were happy in 2010 when CDs were cancelled.
    I think they will work now on FD before GPF. Not a lot off time, but i belive they will made good job.
  5. puglover

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    I haven't been an ice dance fan for nearly as long as many of you, but I am surprised at the number of injuries. In fact, the last Olympic podium was made up of two teams out of three who were battling serious, chronic injury. Since then - I believe C&L's decline a few years ago began with injury and it then took a few seasons and major coaching changes to regain their standing. Last year at World's the two top Detroit teams P&B and W&P both had suffered injury, time off the ice, etc. and I think W&P were fortunate that they were able to rehab Kaitlyn's ankle to the point that they could skate well and were a happy story by World's. Not so lucky for the P&B injury, certainly a different type of injury, but maybe has hurt their momentum in the judge's eyes. Looking at the top Canadian teams - V&M - enough said (seem to know how to manage their situation now), W&P - broken ankle last season and further surgery this summer to remove the screw, P&I - numerous injuries over the last few seasons that have held them back and hurt their confidence, G&P - broken ankle this season - just getting going again.

    D&W seem to have been mostly fortunate as to injury and I think that has helped them build and keep confidence and momentum.

    My sincere hope for all these wonderful athletes who have devoted their lives to this sport and hope to skate away from this Olympics satisfied - is that the added stress of illness and injury strike NONE of them.
  6. parapluies

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    Its not the elements that wrong, its the music. Its a bit too jarring.
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    Have the judges criticized the music?
  8. pani

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    Dont think so. If look at PCS - they like FD. But who knows?
  9. Golightly

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    According to whom?

    Who cares if we don't like the music? I mean, honestly, who? Many of you had formed this idea of the program from listening to the music so many times. Many even made their own music cuts in their heads and practically choreographed the whole thing before VM debuted the program. And then found that your program isn't what they're skating to. It doesn't work like that. This season, as it happens during every Olympic season, the top skaters are very careful and their aim is to please the judges, not you or me. So if the music displeases you, as long as the PCS is that strong, it doesn't matter.
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    i think the way the judges look at it now is that v/m is a once-in-a-generation team, and that no team can really match their skills, so they're adapting the rulebook to the rule of averages.
  12. *Ice Princess*

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    Someone could transcribe this little part for me? From this mark to 21:19. ^^

    And from this mark to 25:32 and from this to the end? Thanks ^^
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  13. pani

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    This is my thoughts. They are too good and ice dance couldn't go on this direction.
    Just saw MT-M marks PCS low, then BL. Team Canada chances in Team event.become lower from every competition. Why TS want to skate both programs.
  14. Emdee

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    Pani each competition has different judging and havent really seen the Rostelcom programs. I think T&S are invested in winning so they want to do both. I think they want to go out with a bang as well. The team event will be hard to call. It will really depend on how the various players rev up from now to that time and of course how they skate on that day.
    Lets see how the GPF works out.
    I like MTM but they could have had a bad skate....I havent seen the program.
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    I think Canada and the team event is a bit of a question mark with Osmond and her injuries. We'll see how she looks at nationals.
  16. pani

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    Yea. And with Reynolds injury too, because Patrick will not skate 2 programs.
  17. Emdee

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    I think russia has the best shot at the team event. Julia L is stunning and VT are a sure bet. Their dance will be pretty high too.
    I think US and Canada will be 2/3 or 3/2.
    Now if Osmond comes back OK Canada may have a better shot. But honestly, it is not big in my mind so I hope that my two faves do well in the main events.
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  18. pani

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    Thats why i was wonder, when TS said they will do 2 programs for team
  19. Golightly

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    Funny. Skate Canada has focused on Chan, Osmond, even the pairs, and in the end, it might be V-M the only ones competing at both events for Canada.
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    I think SC focusing on Patrick gold (and he deserve it no dout) and Team even gold. Maybe medal in pairs. But now its look like no a lot off cvhances for team and pairs and SC didnt see this even now.
  21. Emdee

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    I think the Oly outcome is still somewhat open. Even the teams that win in the GPF may not mean the same team will win in Olys.
    Anyway we cannot fight against what is going to be. If we say there is politiking then does that mean that in 2010 T&S won because of politiking or does it mean that they deserved it? Was the deal then that Canada and US was to have one medal each and when Evan won mens T&S had to win Dance?
    I dont think its so simple and I dont want it to be so simple.
    So I am just going to bury my head in the sand and enjoy the skating. Being a big Chanfan I naturally want him to win... being a big VM fan I naturally want them to win but regardless of what I want the result will be what it is..

    I am just going to enjoy the skating from now till season end...
  22. Corianna

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    Hi guys, a couple of things. What Patrick said in the interview I heard was that he was willing to do one OR two - but the decision would be made by the Federation, the skater and ??? I didn't hear what the third was..., but I gather no decisions have been made yet. Does anyone know how much room the rules leave for changing minds late in the game? As far as I've read, Kevin's problem was/is boots not injury, though he was injured earlier. He skipped CofR to try to make up for lost time. KO is certainly injured but at least back on the ice now. We'll see if she skates in the Challenge... same weekend as the GPF- though she hasn't been doing triples in practice yet, so we can't expect much.. We've still a good shot at a medal - if not the gold medal in team. MTM and W/P were both off in the short - but I'm not counting them out yet. I'm with Emdee about enjoying the rest of the season, though this morning brought less than joy. Maybe tomorrow...
  23. pani

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    He said the decision would be made by his coach and SC
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    I think V/M arrived at the perfect time in ice dance history to win a gold medal. They had the skills that made everyone take notice; They delivered when it counted which was at home; The Russians were injured. The most important is the last - if D&S had been ready for prime time, they'd have won the gold medal.
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    I will try to keep doing these if people are still interested, but it might take me a few days.


    F: This is something different. If you could be in any movie, what genre would you choose?

    T & S: [pointing to Scott] Romantic comedies.

    S: I like romantic movies. [awwing] I know, I know. Well when I go to the movies I want to feel good. It’s easy, I don’t want to think to much. No, I like thrillers and stuff like that too, but I’m a sucker for a good rom-com and something where everything ties up at the end, where everyones happy. It’s so cheesy. [to Tessa] What about you?

    T: I know know what to answer, I think I would be a terrible actress. So maybe like animations, I don’t know.

    S: Monster’s Inc [laughter]

    F: So which genre? Animation?

    T: Honestly I don’t know

    S: You could be nemo!

    T: Yeah, right. It would just be my voice, but I don’t have a good voice either.

    S: What about classics?

    T: Oh, it would be cool to do a period piece like Downton Abbey. You know how it’s set in England-

    F: Or like Pride and Prejudice.

    T: Yeah, exactly! That would be cool, that would be really cool.

    F: Yeah that would be very good for you.

    S: We’ll just answer the questions from now on [jokingly patting Tessa’s shoulder] We know you better than you. [laughter]
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  27. *Ice Princess*

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    Thank you very much cgirl8!!!!
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    Thanks cgirl8! That last bit is so funny!
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    This is going back in the thread a bit but I wanted to ask Golightly why this is true in ice dance when it's not true in the other disciplines? In other disciplines, the quality of the actual skating has become even more important. Even in a trick-dense discipline like pairs, quality skating can push a team ahead of another team that's more content packed and has put in more complex tricks. The quality skating of V/T vaults them ahead of teams that try to pack their programs with more difficult transitions or added difficulty, possibly because some of those transitions don't really say a great deal about the skating itself, but just adds challenge to the trick that's coming.

    Pairs doesn't allow the quantity-over-quality formula. The rules are also very clear about the components of a difficult element - the skaters can't just make it up.

    Ice dance seems like an outlier where quality skating is incidental while meanwhile it's emphasized even more in singles and pairs. How did the rules for ice dance develop to allow teams to actually work around skating, while the rules for singles and pairs made quality skating the difference between the winner and the runner up?
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    bluegrass, I disagree that the Russians would have won if they'd been ready for prime time. Virtue and Moir were simply superior by that time. DS were never top of the line. Their win in 2009 at Worlds was very controversial even versus an undertrained Virtue and Moir and a rocky Belbin and Agosto.
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    Thank you!

    O, Tessa! You never disappointed me. You did so much for ice dance :)
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    F: And if someone decided to make a movie about your life, what genre would it be? And maybe an name for the movie.

    S: Scary, I think. [laughter]

    T: That’s a good question.

    S: Yeah, it would be a bio-pic.

    F: What would you name your movie?

    S: We had a couple names that we came up with. [looking at Tessa] What were the good ones? The really cheesy ones… Didn’t we have a couple names?

    T: I don’t remember.

    S: Tessa and Scott on Thin Ice. Really cheesy though, I love cheesy things. [laughter] I don’t know, what would you guys name it?

    F: We don’t know! [another person] Tessa, Scott and the Umbrellas.

    S: Yeah. I like that one. You get the budget, I’m in.
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    I thought she said 'Under the Umbrellas"? Did everyone see what Jeffrey Buttle said on his twitter today?. I feel like it could be applied to Tessa and Scott's loss at 2013 Worlds.
  37. pani

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    What did he said?
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    He said this: https://twitter.com/J_Butt/status/404321674839224320

  39. pani

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    Hm.... Did he mean WP marks? I disagree with him, because WP just lost some levels and will get 70 and 104 with clean skating - its very good marks for them.
    But Kostner lose to Lipnitskay with falls - its over the top. Caro is one of the best female skate in the history (IMHO)
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