Teens punched and kicked a 13-year-old girl until she was unconscious

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by luenatic, Jan 10, 2012.

  1. luenatic

    luenatic Well-Known Member

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    Am I totally out of touch with today's teenager behavior? I just cannot imagine who could punch and kick a school girl for riding the school bus. This cannot be normal human behavior, can it? Where is the moral value?

    http://news.yahoo.com/teens-charged-beating-classmate-court-190522274.html

    "The youths were charged with battery and disorderly conduct Friday after allegedly forming a circle around another girl on the school bus and hitting and kicking her repeatedly. The victim told deputies it was her first day riding the bus and no one would let her sit down. She suffered a concussion."
     
  2. Jenny

    Jenny From the Bloc

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    Is it really necessary to have such an awful subject line in an otherwise fun and lighthearted forum? I understand that some people wish to share and discuss such things, but for those of us who find this sort of thing very disturbing, and come to FSU to get away from the negative news headlines that bombard us elsewhere, perhaps some consideration could be made?
     
  3. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    :huh:

    I didn't realize that FSU was a safe haven from unpleasantness. We have something of an unwritten rule about not including graphic descriptions of cruelty to animals in thread titles, but we don't police thread titles, and I don't see anything wrong with this title.
     
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  4. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

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    Jenny, there are many threads on this board that don't interest/sometimes disturb me.
    I use my discretion and don't open them.
     
  5. Jenny

    Jenny From the Bloc

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    I usually don't either - but one can't avoid the subject line.

    I'm not asking for censorship, just some consideration for other posters is all.
     
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  6. GarrAarghHrumph

    GarrAarghHrumph I can kill you with my brain

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    I don't have any problem with this thread title, as I'm not overly sensitive about such things. But reading what you just wrote, I'm now curious. Are you saying that we can't (or prefer not to) have a thread title that reads, "Teens punched and kicked a bunny rabbit until it was unconscious", but we can have one that says the same thing about a girl?
     
  7. MikiAndoFan#1

    MikiAndoFan#1 Well-Known Member

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    Poor girl. :( I hope she's okay, now.
     
  8. orbitz

    orbitz Well-Known Member

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    What was the bus drive's role in this? Did the attack take place when there was no bus driver on board?


    I don't see anything wrong with the thread title. I've seen worse on FSU :lol:.
     
  9. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    Personally, I wouldn't have a problem with either, but there have sometimes been threads that included really awful things done to animals, and requests were made that the titles say something like - warning animal cruelty. I think the issue was more than people were opening threads not expecting to read graphic details about animal cruelty than the thread titles themselves being upsetting. it's largely been a self-moderating thing.
     
  10. Japanfan

    Japanfan Well-Known Member

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    This forum includes all sorts of non-skating subjects. There is no rule that they need to be fun and lighthearted. Indeed, many threads here are not.
     
  11. Buzz

    Buzz Well-Known Member

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    It's bullying and at a time when bullying is all over the news. Clearly the ones the message is most aimed at are not listening. Poor girl. Glad she will be ok.
     
  12. jenny12

    jenny12 Well-Known Member

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    I agree. I think this is a disturbing story, but the thread title was just a brief summary of the topic. It wasn't graphic or anything. Anyway, this is a devastating story and I do think orbitz has a good question about the bus driver. He/she is the adult in the situation and should have either stepped in or called for help immediately.
     
  13. luenatic

    luenatic Well-Known Member

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    Gosh. I'm watching local news right now and they're reporting a 14-years-old girl was beaten up by 3 other teenagers on the light rail. What is wrong with the world these days? I'm starting to think the trashy reality shows (like Real housewives, Jersey Shore,etc) are playing a role in corrupting the society moral values.

    http://www.kgw.com/news/Disturbing-video-shows-girl-attacked-on-MAX-137057088.html

    "PORTLAND – Disturbing video of a girl getting beat up on a MAX train has circulated at a Southeast Portland school as police try to track down the people involved."
     
  14. Prancer

    Prancer Jawwalking Staff Member

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    Did people not beat each other up when you were young? :confused:
     
  15. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    I think it's more that people weren't videotaping themselves beating up others back in the day. They had to carve the descriptions and pictures into stone.
     
  16. rjblue

    rjblue Re-registered User

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    Years ago I used to bump up lots of threads to get rid of "dead baby" posts on the forum. Now I just make a black humour response in my head and otherwise ignore them.

    Re the thread topic- violence among teenagers has declined rather dramatically in the last 20 years. People no longer tolerate that aspect of immature behavior, it seems.
     
  17. luenatic

    luenatic Well-Known Member

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    When I was a young teenager (before 15), all the beatings were among 'boys'. Even the worse boys would not hit a girl. As we got older, girls would fight among each others if a 'boyfriend' was involved... Beating up strangers on public transit and school bus was really unheard of.
     
  18. Bev Johnston

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    I wonder that myself when these stories come up. I picture the bus driver screaming at the girl to sit down, and the other kids scooting over to not let her. We had a similar situation locally a few years ago. Someone taped the incident and it was all over the news. I think the driver should be in just as much trouble for not stepping in.
     
  19. Badams

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    I think that depends on what the driver actually did. Did the driver call for help? Was the driver scared for his/her own safety in the situation? Did the circle of girls prevent anyone from interfering? I think the girls should be held way more responsible than the driver regardless, they are the ones who committed the act.
     
  20. aliceanne

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    The story I read said the bus driver pulled over once to break it up, the second time he pulled into a nearby school and called police. Apparently even the participants were willing to finger the perpetrator(s). I believe they were all arrested or whatever they do to juveniles.
     
  21. Prancer

    Prancer Jawwalking Staff Member

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    So is society experiencing moral crumbling because girls did this beating or because they were young?

    I guess a lot depends on where you grew up and when, because these stories, while sickening, don't seem at all worse than anything that was going on when I was young. In fact, I rode on buses where fights would break out regularly--city buses, mind you, not school buses. Often the attacks were race-related and rarely did the participants know one another.

    And so it goes; there is nothing new under heaven if you ask me, but I had a rather warped childhood.
     
  22. numbers123

    numbers123 Well-Known Member

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    And I think that we tend to forget some of those episodes that occurred when we were younger. Or it wasn't reported. As we get older we tend to say "that would have never happened when I was younger" more

    I think the thread title is specific enough to let people know that it would be graphic or disturbing to some people. Perhaps it is just me but the words punched/kicked/unconscious indicates that the thread would contain some violent components. Now, if the title was Bus Incident, that would be a bit misleading.
     
  23. Twilight1

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    I had my first fight in grade 4. I can't even count the number I had (could have potentially had) in middle school. When I was 16 a group of girls would have kicked the **** out of me if my boy friend didn't keep in front of me and told them to back off. (A girl in the group still got a good punch in on me)

    Another time another girl waited outside of the local mall and attacked me from behind.

    In all those situations though...it would have been just 1 on 1. More and more I am hearing about group beatings which is different from when I was a kid. (except for that averted fight with the group of girls but nothing ever came of it.)
     
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  24. kwanfan1818

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    This. Similar things happened in the neighboring towns where I grew up, where there were school buses to public schools, and that was in the 60's-70's. Palisades Park was notorious at the time for "popular" girls beating up the smart girls, who learned not to use the school toilets.
     
  25. Prancer

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    Well, again, that's not different to me. In fact, one of my best friends in eighth grade was beaten up by a gang of girls. I was threatened with that a couple of times myself. I REALLY minded my own business on the bus to and from school, let me tell you; I saw lots of kids get their asses kicked by groups.
     
  26. Badams

    Badams Well-Known Member

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    That was my experience as well. Although it was more in the school hallways, in the classrooms, at parties...
     
  27. numbers123

    numbers123 Well-Known Member

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    With the cell phones video capabilities, one of the major differences is indeed video taping and posting on you-tube.
     
  28. orbitz

    orbitz Well-Known Member

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    Which makes it easier sometimes for the police to catch and punish the offenders.
     
  29. Twilight1

    Twilight1 Well-Known Member

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    I don't remember people getting knocked unconscious or left for dead and I was pretty cognitive of news. More so then than now to be frank.

    The worst thing that happened in my area was the Paul Bernardo rapes in Scarborough/ murders of Leslie Mahaffy/ Kristen French.
     
  30. manleywoman

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    Wow, I can't even remember getting into one physical confrontation at school at any age. But perhaps it was because I went to a smaller private school. The ratio of teachers to students was small.