Survivor Philippines (Season 25)

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  1. Prancer

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    I can't stand Abi. Ergo, Abi will be there for a long time.

    Sneaky Pete! Making the game interesting in an evil but much more subtle way than Russell the Troll.

    Russell the Stupid is a real piece of work. I hope he means it when he says he is done with the game. If he doesn't, I hope Survivor is done with him.

    The Sucksters are all going crazy over Russell's comments about Denise at final tribal council and are proclaiming a winner's edit. Don't get excited; the edgic people are always wrong. But it was interesting that Denise is seen as such a likeable person. I always wondered how a therapist would do on this show.

    Almost forgot, but PML at the part where Russell was walking around looking for the idol saying that he was sure the cameras were filming him walking right past it (Russell walks right past the idol), looking for it in the wrong place while there's a big flash on the idol (idol flashes) and so on. That was positively TAR-like :lol:.
  2. Jenny

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    Me too. Years ago I thought it would be fun to cast a bunch of people who each had some sort of talent or edge that could help their game - psychologist, triathlete, puzzle champion, lawyer, politician, PR person, professional con artist, outdoors person, someone native to the place they are playing, a pakour (sp?), a detective, etc etc.

    I know! I remember once you shared with us that players in the past have said that within a few days they don't even notice the cameras, but as he was saying it and running around looking I thought, "gee, why don't you follow the sights of the camera that's filming you right now?" :lol:
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    I'm actually surprised that they actually cast a likeable, apparently competent therapist. It seems like usually when they cast people like that (whether for Survivor or other reality shows), you wonder how on earth they can actually do their jobs because they come across so terribly on TV. What I'm most impressed about is that she managed to get Russell on her side to vote for Malcolm...given what a mysogynist Russell has been, I was sure he was going to vote out Denise in a "gotta keep the strength" vote, so well-done by Denise!

    I've been loving the Denise-Malcolm alliance from the beginning, so I'm glad they stuck it through together. I hope we don't see an Ulong situation where the tribe goes down to one, as I'd rather watch the tribe vote someone out than a fire-making competition.

    Things are finally starting to get interesting with the dynamics on the other two tribes. I actually did feel sorry for RC. Not sure I would like her in real life, but I don't mind her as a game player. She keeps trying to do all the right things in her alliance with Abi, but Abi apparently has the emotional intelligence of a 5 year-old and there is just no reasoning with her. I'm glad Penner has some alliance-mates now, but I just wish I liked them better.
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    I would loooooove that!!! :cheer2:
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    Poor Dana.

    If I were Dawson, I would have departed with a question at large, "Why don't you ask Jeff about his NBA days?"

    ETA Oops - I meant his pro baseball days. Got NBA on the brain since the season has just started.
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  6. my little pony

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    then he could honestly answer he was never in the NBA

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  7. Jenny

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    Yeah I was :wuzrobbed for Dana that whole ep - she really, really wanted to play poor thing. It was nice to see everyone rally around her too - big points for Penner in my book.

    Also, apparently I was wrong last week about the potential women's alliance on the red tribe. In the edit, we saw Dana doing all the talking while Dawson and Katie looked off into space, so I thought they were just going along with her when they'd really rather be with the men, but both said this time that they were aligned. Mind you, the second Dana was gone that crumbled, they didn't bother trying to get Denise on board (not that we saw at least), and Katie went with the flow and voted out Dawson. I figured Denise would hook up with the men anyway.

    As for Dawson, badly played. I'm not sure when all the baseball taunting was, but if it was after they lost the challenge, then she was building her own coffin because of course Jeff would target her now - when he might have targeted Katie who was the biggest drag on the challenge, or the newbie and future threat Denise. And why didn't she take him aside, tell him what she knew? She could have tried to buy his protection, but from what we can tell, she didn't. On her way out, that skary stalker look she gave Jeff before she mauled him was something - no wonder she didn't have it together to take a parting shot.

    And I can't believe I was feeling a bit sorry for RC again - she's really in a fix now. Mind you, I think that tribe remains quite volatile and things could easily shift.

    Overall, I have to give points to the casting department this season. With just a couple of exceptions, it's an interesting group this time, and the majority really want to be there and know how to play. Loving it so far!
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    Pete: "Hey, Malcolm! I don't really know much about you or what kind of player you are, but let me tell you all about this tribe and the alliances. And by the way, my alliance has an immunity idol!"

    Malcolm: "Yeah? Cool." -completely avoids mentioning his own idol-

    I really like Malcolm.

    Boy, I worried that Denise would be toast if her tribe had to go to tribal council. I'm so glad I was wrong about that. It sure would be nice to see her actually get to win something for once, although at this point she'd probably collapse from the shock if it actually happened.

    And Penner was so, so sweet when he was comforting Dana. He's such a dad.
  9. Jenny

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    Cynic I was surprised that Pete told all to Malcolm too as I thought he had more game than that. However, Malcolm also said that everyone was coming up to him - so maybe Pete felt that there was enough competition that he had to sweeten the deal to get Malcolm onside?

    That would also support the idea that that tribe remains volatile - it was Pete himself that said alliances are only good on the day they're made.
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    I agree that Penner was great with Dana...reminded me of why I like him, even if he's not always a great player. I did think the section was a little bit weirdly edited, like Jeff really wanted to make it clear that she was deciding to quit and not being pulled by medical. Given the sympathy that has been shown to other med-evacs lately, it seemed a bit off to show this tiny girl who was clearly sick and struggling as a semi-quitter.

    Love Malcolm and Denise, too, and thrilled to see that neither of them seem to be targets on their new tribes. I'm also glad we didn't have to see them go down to a tribe of one.
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    Yes, there were a lot of strange happenings in this week's episode:

    1) Why, oh why didn't Dawson make it known who Jeff was? Perhaps she might have deflected some of the heat away from herself. Just like the tribe originally didn't want Penner to win because he's already had 2 shots, surely they would have had something to say about a former MLB playing. Not that I don't like Jeff. He's a nice guy, but an obvious threat that needs to be neutralized. I did have to laugh at her in her exit interview though, telling Jeff what she wanted from him for her "help" in getting him to the million.

    2) Pete is a cocky son of a gun. I understand him wanting to gain Malcolm's trust, but to tell him about the idol was just foolery. It's going to come back to bite him. That entire RC/Abi situation is going to be really ugly when they finally get to tribal. Malcolm couldn't have played it any better by keeping his own idol a secret and just finding a way into the tribe. It didn't even look hard.....very smooth.

    3) Poor Dana. She's got heart. I hate to see when players have strong spirits and their bodies can't live up.

    4) Malcolm and Denise have been reborn. Love it. And even though Denise's tribe lost, I was really glad to see that her new tribe sees her as an asset, not a liability and that they are willing to keep her around. She's going to be dangerous when she gets to the merge.

    5) I loved how Jeff called Abi out for only participating in 2 challenges. RC is physically a stronger player. It will be interesting to see how much longer she lasts, even with an idol. She's not a nice person.....complaining because someone pulled her hair....she's a whiner and a paranoid nut. She's already told us that she's twisted her knee twice. What reason do they have to keep her? RC irritated me a little bit in the beginning, but Abi is just a waste of space. Can we get rid of her?

    6) Am I the only one pulling for Lisa to end up in the final? I really like her....and she's really smart, doing well with the puzzle challenges. It's also interesting that Scubin is the only one who recognizes her and the tribe wants him gone. I'm really starting to like her chances.
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  12. Jenny

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    One reason to keep Abby is she's a good shield, and if you want to cause a distraction or stir things up to keep attention away from yourself or your actions, she's the ideal starting point. Not sure why Pete is so adamant on getting RC out, but it may very well be because she is an individual challenge threat, and because Pete saw her making alliances early. I'm assuming he wants Skupin out for the popularity factor - that if he makes it to the end, the jury will likely love him. Pete likely doesn't consider Abby any kind of threat - not in challenges, she's not that bright, people don't like her - she's actually an ideal partner, other than being so volatile.
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    I wasn't keen on Katie, but I like that she owned her doing poorly in the challenge.
    also interesting editing - Denise aligning with the guys. Did the girls even approach here? the 3-3 split - Denise & Malcolm are useful!
    And I am also very happy that Denise & Malcolm are doing well so far on their new tribes. Malcolm continues to impress, he is very smart and knows how to play.
    Good point about keeping Abi. It will not take much to set her off.
    Penner was so sweet with Dana. Maybe she will come back another season. She seemed like a good player of what we saw.
    Dawson - what a nut job. So funny how she hugged Jeff at the end. I too found it interesting that she said nothing about Jeff K. Wonder if anyone else knows who he is?? Maybe on the other tribe.
    I am rooting for Lisa as well. She seems so nice and normal, plus always got to root for someone who is a fan of the show. She might be able to stay under the radar, let the physical ones and Abis get kicked out first.
    Wonder when the merge is? Now down to 12.
    Like last week, I am still rooting for Malcolm, Denise, Penner, Lisa, ande Jeff. Intrigued by Pete.
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    Dawson's exit was creepy and hilarious! I found it funnier that before she hugged and kissed Jeff she stared dagger at him like she was going to cut him down!

    Also I agree this week that Jeff's constant singling people out was weird. He went on and on about Katie's poor performance was why they lagged behind in each phase of the immunity challenge.

    I'm totally rooting for Malcolm and Denise, really reminded me of Tina and Colby. Hope they both can go far!
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    My thought on Jeff singling out Abi and Katie in the challenge was to give Malcom and Denise a chance on their new tribes because Malcom and Denise give 110% and Jeff likes that sort of player. By repeating it constantly he plants the seed with both teams that there may be a weaker person to get rid instead of the easy choice of voting off the new kid.
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    I'm wondering if Jeff gets on everyone's case. Then when editing time comes around, the editors selectively use just one little bit of what he says to make us think one person might be the one targeted to be voted off, but it's actually someone else. All done for "dramatic purposes".
  17. genevieve

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    ok, I knew this was coming, but my worst nightmare in one episode! Malcolm is the one to find the HII, and Denise goes to the tribe where other favorite player Dana has to leave due to illness. HUGE BUMMER :wuzrobbed

    Now that Malcolm is feeling like a winner, he's cocky and not so likeable. I had a feeling about him when he was whining about normally being a winner a few weeks out. Ugh, WHY couldn't Denise have found the idol? :drama:

    Pete is doing very well, but I don't particularly like him, and I flat out hate Abi.

    Good for Skupin for figuring out the trick to the reward challenge - throw your statue high in the air and knock your opponent's statue off before yours hits the ground. Most of the wins after that came from those who employed the same strategy. Poor Dana having to go against whatsisname (seriously - what is his name?).

    Penner continues to impress. Talk about NOT GIVING UP. He took over when Jeff was flagging on the rope and got through it quickly, and he almost managed to get the win out from under the yellow tribe. Plus he provided good commentary and great support for Dana while she was so sick. I've been a fan of his and continue to be - I would love to see him make it very far in the game, along with Denise and Lisa, and even RC, although there is no way that's happening.

    PML at the dramatik slo mo editing when they were previewing how the immunity challenge would work.

    Dawson was useless. Her baseball chit chat was stupid. It sounded like coy flirting, not strategy to unnerve Jeff. And her stalker behavior with Probst as she left :eek: He may need to file a restraining order.
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    I so hope Malcolm and Denise are reunited and finish in the final 3. I so hope :)
  19. Prancer

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    Katie's boot was rather meh, but the bargaining over the reward challenge was interesting. On one hand, you had the red team devouring this pile of food, then moaning about how hungry they were. On the other tribe, you have everyone bitching about the trade, especially when they realized that they only got one extra day's worth of rice, which I thought was pretty funny of Penner--he had to be gambling that they would merge soon since their supply was so low. And it looks like he was right, because it looks like next week is the merge.

    The yellow team has been so dominant, but there are lots of divisions there that the red team might be able to exploit--and Denise and Malcolm will be reunited. And there are three HIIs in play! I see some tasty plottin' and schemin' coming.
  20. genevieve

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    ugh, people making a big show of "I'll go with whatever everyone else wants to do" and then complaining that it was absolutely the wrong thing to do! :wall: That's how we ended up with that tribe giving up their immunity last season to kick off one of their own! :wall:

    But eys, that was great of Penner. And I almost fell for it and thought he was a goner tonight - except there's no effing way he could have heard She-Dana's "Katie or Penner?" slip up without knowing something was up. The fact that we didn't see him scrambling or talking about it gave me hope that he wasn't going. Katie was completely useless, so no loss there.

    I'm a little annoyed at Probst about his calling in that immunity challenge - first, he lumps RC with Katie on one turn where they both missed - but RC caught one earlier in the challenge. I think her ability in challenges is seriously underappreciated. At least by Probst, which isn't a surprise. Second - he creams himself congratulating Malcolm, but gives no love to Lisa, who did a great job in that challenge. Plus, she looked like she was having a blast. And who thought she'd be capable of holding Denise down in the reward challenge? I certainly didn't. Go Lisa!

    Jeff continuing to call out Abi's non-performance in challenges, though? Rocks. I wonder if we'll have some sort of new rule next time about how many challenges a person can sit out in a season.
  21. Prancer

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    Abi injured her knee in the first couple of days and injured it again soon after, which is why she hasn't been doing challenges. The fact that this has never once been mentioned, and that Jeff keeps calling her out for not doing challenges, means that the Survivor producers hate her. If they liked her, we would have seen something every week about how she wishes she could do her part and how concerned everyone is about her knee. You notice that no one has been on camera complaining that Abi is refusing to do challenges; that's because no one thinks she can be competitive. We'll see how she does now that it's every player for himself.

    I don't like her at all, but I am increasingly aware that I am not supposed to. This almost certainly means that she will in some way be responsible for the demise of a producer favorite at some point, although who that is, I don't know. But if any of you ever go on Survivor, make sure you aren't the one who pulls the trigger on a Chosen One, for you will pay.

    ITA about RC and Lisa--they both did a great job. But Malcolm is clearly a Chosen One. He'd better be keep an eye on Abi.

    Oh, and did you notice that once again Jeff emphasized that Dana CHOSE to leave the game--the damn quitter! This does not bode well for the red team in the merge, I'm thinking.
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    Ooooo, that's a good point. I hope she's not responsible for getting Malcolm voted off, but that would definitely explain the edit she's been getting.

    Random thoughts: Now that Carter's actually talking, I wish he'd shut the hell up. What a whiny drip.

    I was glad that Denise finally got a reward, but I knew that the minute the reward feast wore off, everyone on Kalabaw who agreed to the bargain would start bitching about having no rice.

    When Carter muttered to Penner, "So, Penner or Katie?" I laughed so loudly I woke the cat up.
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    Carter is so unbelievably jaw-droppingly dumb. The vacant look on his face makes me sick.

    I have done a total 180 on Lisa - she rocks! And yes, Probst was such a d-bag to fawn all over Malcolm when Lisa was the one getting the balls right to him. Not even my lady Denise was doing so well at that! I believe we're seeing the beginning of Jeff's new mancrush. :rolleyes:

    I still like Malcolm. But if I look deep in my soul I'd have to admit that I'd hit that in a stone cold minute. So I'm biased. ;)
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    thanks Prancer - interesting about Abi - makes so much sense. Also RC's comment about letting Abi causing drama.
    Yes - Lisa does rock! She was aiming for Malcolm and succeeded, plus held Denise. And I enjoy her confessionals.
    The bargaining the RC was very interesting. And Carter annoys me. They gave up one day of rice for a big meal and he acts like they gave up weeks worth of rice. And yes the merge is coming, so whatever.
    Won't miss Katie. Still smarter to take Penner to the merge, than Katie as she might be ignored, as the former players and strong ones will likely be targeted.
    Still liking Denise and Malcolm, Jeff Kent, Lisa and Penner.
  25. Jenny

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    I realize that they can't always show the full spectrum of every player's character in the space of the show, but that's annoying. When Jeff called her out again and she said she has no choice, I assumed it was because the tribe didn't want her to play - not because she has an injury. They're playing up all the other injuries - especially this season - so why not hers?

    Also annoyed at Jeff for hammering home that Dana quit. Good heavens, the poor girl was on death's door out there, coupled with a broken heart because she REALLY wanted to play. Don't lump her in with the quitters Jeff, because that ain't fair.

    Everyone also notice a little poking from Jeff at TC? Asking Jeff K if he's ever played another game like Survivor? Sounds like Jeff P is dying to get that out on the table so he can talk about it at TC - like he was itching to say "how did a kid like my mancrush Malcolm beat a major league baseball player in that challenge?"

    Otherwise, I'm loving this season. Best casting in quite some time, and so happy that all the pointless players are being eliminated one by one, so by merge we will be left with a crew of strong players (whether physical, intellectual or social) who are each interesting in their own way, and most importantly, came to play, and play hard.
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    Prancer's comment about Abi being set up as a villain who takes out a favorite is causing me to speculate. Does Abi engineer Malcolm's exit?

    PS - potential spoiler alert, but it's rumored that Malcolm returns on Survivor 26.
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    we have heard her talk about her knee, but not last night (maybe not last week either?), and I didn't know she had re-injured it. Clearly Jeff isn't fond of her - but I'm surprised the producers hate her. She's got all the makings of their favorite villains - bitchy, devious, causes strife for no real reason, and got the best of a better player (RC, about the HII, even though RC still doesn't seem to know it).

    And I would be fine with Abi engineering Malcolm's exit. There are many, many players in this game I'd rather see at the end than him. And I don't see why he should be invited back, either. He's a typical alpha male who is shocked - SHOCKED! - that he wasn't on a dominant tribe from the beginning. He's a good individual competitor and probably a nice guy, but not exceptional in the game.

    Um, where did RC get that corporate jacket she was wearing in one of her confessionals last night? was she wearing it on the first day?
  28. Jenny

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    Meant to say good point Prancer about 3 HII in play - hopefully that causes some interesting :COP: if several get played on one night.
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    Just watched the eppy, my impressions:

    --The reward challenge deal, ITA with whoever above said it's hilarious how half the tribe said they'd go with whatever decision was made, and then were bitching about it later. I think Artis was the only one who didn't agree to some extent. Have we actually seen him in a confessional where he wasn't bitching or pissed off about something? Seems like a grumpy man, to me. I think Tandang thought they'd be getting much more rice than they did, they really should have figured out exactly how much they were going to receive before making the deal.
    --Which leads me to... when was the last time we saw extensive conversation about hunger/no food on this show? It's been YEARS, and it was refreshing. Most recent seasons have been strategy 100% of the time and the actual survival aspect hasn't been highlighted at all. Even though the cause of last night's segment was mostly because of Kalabaw's now completely depleted food source, still was a nice throwback to the older seasons.
    --Carter. What a little whiner. I have no idea how he was cast for the show. Why was he not considered for the vote after he spent so much time detailing how he's not going to last the entire time if he doesn't get more to eat? Oof. He's super skinny, and lost a ton of weight on top of that. There was a shot of him laying in the shelter and his bathing suit was looking super loose, it looked like he lost a few inches to his waist line in just the first few weeks.
    --Lisa is awesome. Denise is awesome. I still like Malcolm.
    --Merge next week? Hopefully. The preview kind of made it sound like it could be something else, but it's probably a merge. They're at 11 people, and typically the merge is at 10. Last season was the earliest merge with 12, I think the deepest into the game with a merge was at 8 in Thailand.

    ETA: Interesting to note -- the jury did not start with this boot, as it has in recent seasons. I can only hope that they've gone back to a traditional 7-member jury with a final-2.
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    I'm hoping for Malcolm, Denise, and Lisa to be the final 3. I think Malcolm will get voted off as competition, though, unless he goes on a Colby-like streak on immunity challenges. Have the other teams gotten a look at Lisa and Baseball Player during the challenges? I know that, at least on screen, only Skupin from team yellow has admitted recognizing Lisa, and Dawson got voted off before ratting out Baseball Player. But, for instance, might Denise or Penner know who Lisa is?
  31. Prancer

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    There's Malcolm, but there's also Penner and Skupin, and I think they like Jeff and Denise quite a bit, too.

    First night of the show, Jeff tweeted that Abi isn't as charming as she thinks she is, and I thought, uh oh. But she isn't coming across as charming at all.
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    Abi is kook-a-roo, imo. :scream:
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    Quite a few of them are good at challenges now - in part thanks to getting rid of everyone who wasn't on two of the tribes :lol:

    I think we are going to see a lot of sekret alliancing, and hopefully those HIIs will come into play in a big way.
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    Love how the article makes this huge deal about how she couldn't keep Twix bars down after getting voted off...this is nothing new. I guess they don't show it in the episodes anymore, but tribes that get food reward are often quite sick afterwards. I still remember Rodger from S2 moaning about the effects of some big meal they'd won, and how his leaf (that he was using as tp) had a hole in it.

    but interesting about the black mold growing in the shelter due to all the rain. yikes.

    here's an interview with Dana and Creepy Dawson:

    http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?affid=100055&news=768544&obref=obinsource
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    Gross about the mold!
    Food rewards - I always wonder about them. One time I think they got Beer and Doritos???
    or any alcohol for dehydrated folks???
    I assume just giving them basics like bottled water or soup/broth, fruit/veggies, very basic stuff iin limited amounts would be the best.
  37. genevieve

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    pretty sure this show has never given players anything like that in a reward challenge.
    I'm always surprised by how *insane* the prospect of sugar makes players. seems like that would be the worst thing they'd want to cram down their gullets when they're dehydrated and hungry.
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    Finally caught up on last two weeks. Too bad about Dana. The first impression I had of her was that I hated her, but then never really got to know anything about her. The little we did see after I initially hated her though, I think she might have grown on me.

    And if I were Dawson, I would have stood up to leave and said "why don't you all ask Jeff to tell you about his 17 years playing MLB for the Rangers" (or whoever the heck it was). Just to drop that 'he's a millionaire don't let him win' thought in everyone's head. I don't know why she thinks Jeff owes her anything now. I would have outed him in a heartbeat. But I'm bitter. :lol:

    I laughed so loud when that idiot asked Penner "so is it Katie or Penner"! :lol: Penner had to have picked up on that, but we just didn't see it with the editing.

    And in regards to the game. They all sat like that all tied up together in the mud for over an hour?! :eek: Yuck!! But couldn't production have seen that coming? They try out all those games with a crew team to make sure they work, don't they? Clearly this one wasn't going to work. Maybe they wanted that outcome to see how it would play out. Would they really have let them just sit there for a couple hours until someone slipped and a team got thru?

    In regards to Abi sitting out so many challenges, I thought you could not sit out the same people in back-to-back challenges? It seems like there were times where she sat out both challenges in an episode, and I thought you couldn't do that? Or am I just not keeping track right?
  39. MarieM

    MarieM Well-Known Member

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    Malcolm is a choosen one for sure. As is Denise. She's got the winner edit IMO no ? Am I the only one to think that ?
  40. BaileyCatts

    BaileyCatts Well-Known Member

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    Nope. I think that too. I'm going with Malcolm and Denise in the Finals and them finishing 1-2 and it being a 1 vote win between them. And the third person (if its Final 3, which I hate) getting no votes at all. :lol: