Survivor Philippines (Season 25)

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by Catherine M, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. purple skates

    purple skates Shadow dancing

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    DO NOT look at this if you want to be unspoiled about this season!

    (I stopped reading in time so I'm ok, but they do say something about this season in the article.)
  2. Prancer

    Prancer Ray Chill Staff Member

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    I edited Sparks' post a little. Sorry, Sparks :slinkaway
  3. Catherine M

    Catherine M Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for gossip!

    Who knew boring ass David would be part of a Survivor love triangle. Good for Carolina for getting out of that relationship.
  4. Habs

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    I'm a die-hard Survivor fan and have never missed an episode, but I do not remember these people. :shuffle:
  5. Erin

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    Me too! Well, I vaguely remember Carolina as the mouthy girl that got kicked off first in Tocantins (I think?). Do not remember David at all, although I do remember the proposal now that Prancer mentions it.
  6. Sparks

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    It's fine.
  7. Prancer

    Prancer Ray Chill Staff Member

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    PML! Poor David. And he lasted a lot longer than Carolina did.

    He was a defense attorney who was on Boston Rob's last season and is best remembered (aside from the proposal) for his closing argument at the final TV, where he argued that the jury needed to vote for Rob. He was quite the Rob fan boy.

    Maybe this will refresh your memory: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixwbQ3ybIhI
  8. Habs

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    I only vaguely remember him even after watching that. Obviously he did not make an impression on me! :lol:
  9. Erin

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    Oh yeah, now I remember him. Actually, as soon as I googled him and saw a picture, he kind of came back to me. I used to be really good at remembering every contestant from every season, even the ones eliminated early, but I guess they are starting to blend together a bit now.
  10. Jenny

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    I vaguely remember the awkward proposal but not those players, and had to look up Alicia - and it's THAT Alicia? The b*tch who said she was going to use all her sex appeal and turned out to be this loathesomely useless player and worst excuse for a special ed teacher ever???

    ABC needs to sign them up for next summer's Bachelor Pad immediately.
  11. PeterG

    PeterG Argle-Bargle-ist

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    Has an airdate been set for "Survivor: After The Final Rose" yet?
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  12. Prancer

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    David seems to have a thing for snarky, sharp-edged Latinas. :shuffle:

    Survivor has a better track record for lasting relationships than any of the Bachelor-type shows, which I think is hilarious. Most of the couples who do The Amazing Race (although I don't know if they count, as they were couples first) are still together, too.

    My TV is dead, so if someone would be so kind as to summarize the end of the season for me, I would be most appreciative.
  13. my little pony

    my little pony snarking for AZE

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    nothing gets a relationship off the ground like a month without hygiene
  14. Ares

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    Aw, I don't like seeing Malcolm pushing the idea of voting out Denise. It's a good play for his endgame I suppose, but it still made me kind of sad. :(

    Abi's strong negative feelings toward Denise makes me wonder if her former alliance have similar feelings? Maybe she could have been a little gentler on Abi in the last few tribals (even though Abi is horrible). Also, Lisa was quick to defend her former tribe, making Denise look bad at tribal yet again. I would have loved if Denise pointed out that Tandang was strong physically due in no part to Lisa, who then turned on the tribe she is so proud of, leaving them 3 of the 6 jury members. I guess Denise's position at the time was too precarious to get all uppity though.

    I'm still in it for Denise or Malcolm in the end. To come from their situation at Matsing and end up winning it all would be epic.
  15. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    That would actually make Lisa look like a great player, so not smart to mention.

    ETA: I just watched Carter's and Abi's Ponderosa videos...Carter is a really, really boring kid. Abi wants to party, especially with him. Everyone greeted Abi warmly except RC. Cue to sometime later and RC tells Abi that Pete is the one who took the clue, hid it in the rice and told Abi that RC did it, specifically to cause friction between them. Abi: Oh. RC pointed out that she (RC) never betrayed Abi, Abi betrayed RC, and the reason all of their Tandang alliance is at Ponderosa is because they voted her (RC) out. Pete particularly objected to that last bit. Abi offered an apology that sounded totally half assed, which was rejected. Two days later, Abi is asking if RC will ever accept her apology, and RC goes off! on her. She overdoes it a bit, saying Abi is the worst person to ever play Survivor, and says that Abi will be really embarrassed to see how she behaved when the show is aired. Abi says she won't - and I believe her :lol:

    Also there was a deleted scene where Denise talks about Malcolm's picks for the reward challenge being perfect - they need to keep Lisa close, and Mike does a lot around camp and had never gotten a reward.
  16. Jenny

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    Random notes:

    Lisa's defense of her original tribe was an excellent play to the jury IMO. She apparently hasn't offended any of them, while several seem to have a problem with Skupin, and that old loyalty could win her the game in the end. Remember also that she stuck with Pete/Artis/Abi for a TC or two when she could have easily jumped ship.

    (And Ares I don't think Lisa dragged them down - she's not the best player by any means, but in each and every challenge she has put everything she's got into it, and IMO done as good a job as players much younger and stronger.)

    Malcolm's apparent betrayal of Denise - on the boat, I'm thinking that might have been simply to save himself. He knows full well that Lisa has toyed with getting rid of him for weeks, and that Skupin likely considers him the biggest threat in the remaining challenges. He knew he was safe at this TC, but I think that rather than plotting to get rid of Denise (because they didn't, did they?), he was working on making sure he gets to F3. Later in the confessionals, it's just as likely that he was asked the typical pros/cons questions so that they could put together some suspense for TC, even though it seems pretty clear they were all voting out Abi the whole time.

    Shocked at the way Abi went off on Skupin at TC :eek:. Yeah I know she's a mouthy little b*tch, but I thought she still had some game in her. I wonder if she had talked to him about turning on Denise and he had shut her down, so she was lashing out at him - thinking it's his fault she's going home. If there was any chance that Lisa and Skupin would turn against Denise (Abi not knowing about the boat alliance), she shut that door - but then again, as we well know, 9 times out of 10, all votes are decided long before they sit down in front of Jeff.

    re the Ponderosa videos - RC needs to get over it. Yes you were betrayed, but the entire world saw what really went down on tv, so maybe it's time to let it go, no? Bet she gets no more than 1 question at the finale - there have been so many storylines this season, and hers is already long forgotten IMO.

    Back to getting rid of Abi - this does fix the little PR problem they all had after getting rid of Carter, and puts them back on even ground in the "I played an honourable game" sweeps. Too bad this jury doesn't care.

    Was Penner drunk at TC? He looked awful and like he was going to pass out, and then giving the finger to someone seemed a bit juvenile for him, no?

    Looking forward to Sunday's 3 hour extravaganza :rollin:
  17. Erin

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    I would go further than saying she didn't drag them down - Lisa was a real asset on the puzzles, which helped her team win on several occasions. They might not have had as many wins without her.

    I agree. I mean, I understand why RC is upset with Abi and I'm on RC's side with the whole initial argument, but clearly RC is not going to get whatever she wants out of Abi. Abi is never going to realize, accept or admit that she did anything wrong or be upset by her own behaviour. So all RC is doing is making herself upset by letting Abi get to her. The best way to deal with people like Abi is to assume that someday Abi will get her comeuppance in some way, shape, or form and move on.
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  18. julieann

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    I really wish they would have either a two hour reunion or only have the jury members and the three finalists. I would love to hear more dirt.
  19. jamesy

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    For having to spend an afternoon alone at camp with Abi and not reach for the machete, Denise deserves to win the money.
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  20. MarieM

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    Ok so Malcolm considering the edit can't win, that's pretty clear as well as Skupin right ? so it leaves one of the girls. Who would you consider ? I still want Denise !!!!!
  21. genevieve

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    I do think RC needs to get over it - although keep in mind that she had been at Ponderosa for 15 days at that point, with only disgruntled Jeff and then the guys from her former alliance who've been really rude to her. Until Penner showed up, she was still feeling ostracized, although without the need to suck up. When she blew up at Abi, it was on Abi's 3rd day at Ponderosa, Abi asked again if RC was ever going to forgive her, and RC started off with "I have asked you not to talk to me, and you keep at me. You never stop talking. You don't ever SHUT UP". In essence, I don't think Ponderosa has allowed her much ability to let things go.

    And I'm guessing Abi will be getting a LOT of airtime at the reunion, and her spat with RC was a big part of her presence this season, so RC might get to say TWO things :D
  22. Jenny

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    I don't think the edit is saying Malcolm can't win - he's getting a hero's edit, not dissimilar to whatsherface last season, or Boston Rob in the season he finally won. As for the jury, he hasn't pissed any of them off from what I can tell - even Abi, who he's been nice to (and of course she hasn't seen his confessionals). Remember he also bonded with all the younger players on that one reward - I wouldn't underestimate that, especially given Denise's unwanted advice/criticism to Abi, which may rub some of the other younger players the wrong way, whether they sided with Abi or not. And of course he's won a ton of challenge, and despite threats to his safety, managed to hang onto his HII for most of the game rather than using it to save himself.

    Edit or not, I'm not seeing Skupin win. He might get a vote from Penner depending on who he's up against, but I don't think even Lisa's vote is guaranteed for him. She might want to vote for someone she thinks will benefit from the money, but she's too big a fan of the game not to give her vote to the person she thinks was the best player. Skupin's played an even game, but in the process apparently annoyed a few of the jury (4 and potentially 5 counting Lisa of his former tribe, who in the early days were ready to get rid of him had they not won all the challenges, and are likely now bitter that of all of them, he's the one that outlasted them), plus some of the jury might still harbour anti-returnee feelings.

    Denise has ticked off Abi and her posse, and I think Carter would be loathe to vote for her either. For that matter she hasn't really given RC a reason to vote for her, unless she's all about strong women, and I don't think she is. She also hasn't won anything lately, and some might think she rode Malcolm's coattails as he was the one winning the challenges plus had the idol the whole time.

    Lisa has a shot because she's a nice person and she's played hard, and I think her jury performance will be good, unless anyone is bruised by her many changes in alliances and priorities. She hasn't won challenges though, and while she has attempted some big moves, she hasn't successfully turned the game around in any way. She can argue that she knew she wouldn't win challenges, so her strategy was to be a good team player then to remain fluid to changes in the game. Can't see someone like Jeff or hard core strategists like Pete and Abi going for that though. Depending on who is with Penner on the jury, we know that at least Denise and Skupin know that she was a successful tv star - whether or not they know that she is not wealthy, they might not think she "needs" the money, accolades, etc.

    At this point, unless the other three turn on Malcolm and vote him out, I think he's a slam dunk for the win.

    Do we know yet if it's an F3 or F2? If it's F2 then Malcolm better win those challenges - if they mistakenly don't get rid of him at F4, they will surely want him out at F3.
  23. PeterG

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    All of you are idiots and morons if you don't acknowledge and respect Abi's directness and honesty.

    mmmmm....is that Axe body spray I'm-a smellin'???
  24. professordeb

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    Peter, Peter, Peter. There's being honest and then there's brutally honest with a uppercut to the chin and the latter is Abi. That is one young woman who comes across as being entitled -- as entitled to everything good and everyone else is stupid for not bowing down to her superiority. Doesn't hurt that Jeff let's her go on and on and on, then calls her out on it. HAHAHA.
  25. genevieve

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    PeterG's post was pretty clearly sarcastic, since he used the same words Abi was using in TC.
  26. PeterG

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    If she was a figure skater, would she be an entitlement skater?? :yikes: :scream:

    :D
  27. purple skates

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    PeterG posted a sarcastic post??!!?? Say it isn't so. :drama:
  28. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    well, some of them are subtle to the point of being unrecognizable, but that one was pretty open :p
  29. Sparks

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    Yes. As of now, she's an entitlement player.
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    She is such a snarkmeister.
  31. professordeb

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    And I got that and I was replying in the same kind of vein -- being silly about it which is why I ended with HAHAHA. Guess I should have tried finishing with one of :p or maybe :lol: Sometimes my written word just doesn't reflect the grin on my face when I'm typing something. I get the feeling Peter caught my drift when he came back with the question of whether or not she'd be an entitlement skater.

    And Peter, I think she *would* be an entitlement skater. :D
  32. smurfy

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    They filmed the 2 seasons back to back - so the folks on next season have not seen anything of this current season??
    I remember with Russell Hantz - when he played back to back, they knew him, just not the whole season/outcome.
  33. Ares

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    It never hurts to point out to a potentially bitter jury who betrayed who, especially when said person is gushing about her support for the tribe she helped destroy. Lisa forced Denise into a back peddling position, and when Denise just sat there and took it, Lisa looked strong and Denise look submissive. Good for Lisa for making that move but I would have liked to see Denise spin it to get back in the driver's seat.

    I agree, Lisa contributed all she could. IMO it would have been a good move for Denise to make Lisa out to be a weak player as much as she could though, especially to a jury who seem very receptive to the idea that they are power players who got sidelined by a lesser player.

    I think Lisa is playing a great game, however, I want Denise to win. :p
  34. sk8pics

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    Meh, Lisa hasn't impressed me all that much. But of course, the other players haven't seen her confessionals at the time. She has been so wishy washy, and so :drama: at times about what to do, what to do, it's annoyed me. And I think she has been terrible at any challenges that were remotely physical. At least she participated, unlike Abi early on, but she wasn't very good at any of them as far as I can remember.

    So glad to see Abi go! She won't change from this experience, which is too bad. I am so happy to have her basically off my TV.

    What was Skupin dancing to when they were leaving TC? I can't remember now if we heard any singing, but the first thing that had popped into my head was the Wizard of Ox song, Ding dong, the witch is dead! :lol:
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    Yes Skupin was doing a happy dance!
    The contrast over age/maturity
    Malcolm is 24
    Abi is 32
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    I still can't believe Malcolm is younger than Abi. She behaves like a 4 year old kid.
    I still think that considering the edit, he can't win and that's a shame because he's a very good player. :(

    I fear Denise won't win because that Ab*tch :rolleyes: will turn the jury against Denise :scream: If that's so, I hope Lisa wins it. She may not be a very good player, her blunt ways are .... :eek: to say the least and I liked what she said at different times considering her game play. She plays hard, she tells too much :rofl: for her own good, but she was very lucky it didn't backfire on her. Anyway, I am still rooting for Denise !!! :hat1:
  37. Rogue

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    Well, she was able to keep Denise pinned down during that one challenge - the one where Tandang finally conceded in exchange for rice.
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    I'll be surprised if noone sees fit to mention at the final (always supposing Lisa is there) that she was a child TV star. Doesn't Jeff (the ball player) know who she is? Would he keep that info to himself? If Malcolm doesn't win then I'd like him to win that 100 grand special prize. I think he has earned it.
  39. Jenny

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    Prancer posted upthread that several players tweeted that they didn't know who Lisa was until the first episode aired.

    For the $100k prize, I think any of our top 4 have a good shot at it. Lisa may be famous, but she's turned out to be a nice person whose had a rough time, so could get the sympathy - her faith might also get her a few votes. Skupin would seem to me to fall into the Rupert category - beloved by older fans who remember him from the past. Denise and Malcolm may very well split the vote.

    If I had to put money on it though, I'd go with Malcolm - great player, cute and appealing, nice guy, could likely really use the money.
  40. Jenny

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    Just thinking that Penner could get a few votes too as fans were supporting him and felt back he didn't go further. Hopefully Jeff gives us the "runners up" as he sometimes does as it's always interesting to see who did well with the audience (doesn't always match what we think here!).