Survivor: Heroes vs. Villains (Threads Merged)

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  1. Erin

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    Like many people here, I'm loving the Villains! Boston Rob has really grown on me over the years...hated him in Marquesas, grew to appreciate him in All-Stars and really liked him on TAR, and he totally kicked some ass last night. Loved him blaming his incident on "crybaby-itis", but based on Jeff's comments in his blog, the situation was quite serious and Rob was anything but a crybaby. Great work at the challenge once again.

    On the Heroes tribe, I think that Tom and Colby made a strategic mistake by targetting Amanda...if they really wanted to get Cirie on their side, Amanda was not the person to target. I really wish they would have voted James off...between the comments following the IC and the previews for next week, he is turning out to be a disruptive influence on his tribe (similar to Ben last time). When someone is difficult like that, I don't care how strong they are, the tribe is usually better off without them. I didn't like James on his original season, and have never understood the love he's gotten, but I had no idea he was this much of a douche.
  2. smurfy

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    Great season so far. Finally watched the episode this morning.

    Jenny - agree with your post.
    James - so true, he has been one of my favs, but now, shut tfu. He always seemed more mellow, but now he seems to have a chip on his shoulder. I get why he was mad, but he should have let it go once back at camp.
    Amanda & Cirie - I think they may have a secret alliance, or Cirie is letting Amanda think so. Also Amanda does seem a bit more mature, sure of herself. But why would anyone want to get rid of her? There are bigger targets, that will most likely do well at the final tc.
    Didn't get that Steph and Amanda were the weakest, what??? They are both very strong, reliable challenge players. I love Cirie, would love her to win, but she is the physically weakest.
    Heroes - the dynamic is pretty interesting, splintered quickly.

    Boston Rob - always one of my favs, and my love grows. There are 2 things I love: his love of the game/how he knows it is a game and I think genuinely he is a nice guy. I am so amused how his tribe have a respect for him, and may keep him around. I love him, but if I was playing against him, he would be the first target out. he is too good at the game.
    Russell's comment was very telling about Boston Rob.
    Jerri - she definitely has matured and seems nice, dare I say. I think she is enjoying the journey.
    Parvarti - not much of her, I want to know what she is up to.
  3. sk8pics

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    I'm really enjoying the season, too. I too was :eek: at the tribal council, and couldn't believe the way James kept going on and on. Of all of them, he seems to have one of the biggest egos, like all the attention he got from previous Survivor appearances has gone to his head. I really like Tom but I can't see him going all the way to the end.

    And I don't think the Villains are really getting along all that well. We saw some :drama: over the shelter, for example. They just not getting that much air time with regards to strategy or drama since they haven't gone to TC.
  4. Jayar

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    Meh. Russell will get rid of Rob early in the game as he is a threat to him. And Cirie will get an unceremoniously early boot because she rocks. If Rupert wins, I am going to hunt down Jeff Probst and slap him.:lynch:
  5. smurfy

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    If that happens, has to be a fix. Other than brute strength, he does not have much going for him. They know he won the favorite prize and once the merge happens, and I think he is not that good at the social game, I hope they vote him out.
  6. 4rkidz

    4rkidz GPF Barcelona here I come

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    crap .. :( I forgot all about this show as so wrapped up in the Olympics :mad: Thanks for the 2nd show updates, I loved the premier - as hadn't watched it in a few seasons.. This time around I like Boston Rob and Gerri - as my fav villains.. although I do think its time for a hero to win this because I :lynch: Russel..
  7. Jenny

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    On what planet is Rupert popular? I just don't get it, and since none of us here seem to like him (or when he played previously), I have to wonder where - and why - all the love is coming from.
  8. Erin

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    Rupert is not popular with the internet community, but the general community still seems to love him. My mom is a huge Rupert fan, in spite of all of the asshole-ish stuff he does on the show (which she doesn't seem to notice). After the first episode, she called me to talk about how awesome Rupert was and when I expressed my disagreement, her response was "well, didn't you see that special last week where he talked about all the charity work that he does?? I don't understand why you don't like him". I suspect that her response is in line with a lot of people who follow the show more casually. The last time that Rupert was on Survivor, he won the Fan Favourite prize (in spite of things like the shelter incident) and while he's been away a long time, I don't think that the people that voted for him then have changed their mind about liking him.
  9. smurfy

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    Remember he won the 'Fan Fav' vote at the end of the All Stars.
    I think he started out really popular in Cook Islands first episode - embracing the pirate theme etc. But as episodes went on, and in my opinion, the one thing that completely changed my opinion, when he got a vote to be eliminated in tc and back at camp blew up. Also they showed him no being able to sleep and whining a lot.

    In All Stars he completely messed up, especially with the building of their shelter.
    I do not like him and I know from forums he is not liked here or on TWOP.
    But I think the producers may think he is, and Probst?. That is why he is on this season and in the Heroes tribe. IMHO.
    Based on how the Heroes tribe is voting out weak/folks with alliances, the strong guys have not been targeted yet. Closer to the merge and post merge I assume they will be. But til then, I think Rupert may just annoy folks. He definitely seems less happer than in the past.
  10. Cupid

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    Wow, James. He looks and acts like a character from Cops who wears a wife-beater t-shirt and slaps his women around.
  11. Jenny

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    I guess I'm the only one who has watched it? Goodness you'd think there was something else to watch on tv last night. ;) Random thoughts:

    Why do they all hate Randy that much? I realize he's awkward and curmudgeonly but the look on everyone's face when he offered up the clam was just too junior high for me. I guess the editors didn't want us to realize that he was so obviously leaving?

    They are right to go after Parvati asap, on so many levels. Too bad none of them are willing to go after the popular girl.

    Hubby and I were discussing how we'd be cool to see each other snuggling at night or flirting a bit in this game ... until they were all in the water washing off the mud. Hubby says: "and right this minute Russell's wife just smacked him." I guess with so many singles on the show, he's not playing the family card this time.

    I'm liking Jerri more and more - her line about bottling up whatever Parvati has for her real life was great. :)

    I was a bit surprised at Sandra this time - she seems to be laying it out there a bit too obviously and reminding people how she won the first time. I was also :confused: when she told Jeff that when considering who to vote out, they think about who has won money. On her tribe, only she and Parvati, and arguably Rob, have won - so why point that out?

    Candice is playing too paranoid and is lucky they won that challenge.

    And JT is awesome - someone has finally managed to dethrone Rob as my favourite player ever! :encore:
  12. purple skates

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    I watched it late last night, after I was finished watching the Olympics. I watched it because hubby said he was really surprised at how it ended (I was at DS's hockey practice at the time) so I figured I'd watch. Obviously hubby hasn't been watching it regularly because that vote was no surprise to me. :lol:

    I don't like Sandra. I didn't really like her too much the first time, even though I know she's popular here. She's like fingernails on a blackboard to me.
  13. Jayar

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    Wheeeeee! Someone else came out as a Jerri fan. :respec:

    P.S. I was a little excited when Jeff said that they could change before the challenge. Somehow watching Colby change his clothes would be more fun for me than the challenge...:lol:
  14. Prancer

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    I don't think they really do; they all said nice things when they voted for him. Although they were all convinced that he hid the machete out of spite, so I don't think that helped his cause.

    He really likes Jerri and Coach. Funny that Randy, who had no friends in his everyday life, seems to have made them on Survivor--although he says that the Villians are all a bunch of misfits and that's why he belonged there.

    There are some good Insider clips for this week.

    I never understood why Jerri was seen as such a bitch; she had her issues, but so does everyone else, and she has always had redeeming qualities, too. I still love her for being the only one to stand up to Rupert and tell him his "shelter in the sand" idea was idiotic--and she did it nicely, even though it annoyed the hell out of Rupert to have some ignorant female tell Mr. Rehab Houses that his shelter was going to flood. I LOL last night when she said that she had been in the worst shelter in Survivor history. Yep, hands down.

    Ew at being with Coach, though. Just ew.

    Seeing Randy booted reminded me--remember Crystal, the gold medalist who was such a bad athlete during his season? She has admitted to using anabolic steroids during the 2004 Olympics and will likely be stripped of the gold medal; even worse, her teammates on the relay team may be stripped of theirs, too.

    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/oly...pended-relay-team-could-lose-gold-medals.html
  15. sk8pics

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    I watched it. Liked the episode. I didn't quite understand the whole thing about James being violent in a challenge. At least, that's what i remember reading in the episode info. Yes, he threw Randy off the platform immediately, but that was kind of the point. He didn't throw him around on the platform, or rub his face in the mud, he just did what he was supposed to do. I actually was :confused: that the villains would put Randy up against James. I mean, I know they don't like him, but did they want Randy to get killed?

    I, too, really like J.T. I just find him really likable. And I really don't like Sandra much either, never did before and still don't.

    I was also a little surprised that everyone voted for Randy, in spite of some of the talk about voting out Parvati.

    I think it's pretty funny how so many people think they're the ones calling the shots. Gonna be some rude awakenings... hope so, anyway, to keep it interesting.
  16. dbell1

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    Totally figured Randy was going, but this episode had some decent :rofl: parts.

    Coach singing with the sun behind him? Classic. We stopped and rewatched it just to catch the cheesy lines. Oh, and his misspeaking is another favorite thing here. :D

    Rupert saying they bonded over catching a chicken that escaped their crappy cage? Awesome.

    Villains getting covered in mud while getting their arses kicked? Best challenge ever. Was fun to see Russell beaten, but he should be used to it after last season. :p

    I'm with Prancer on the Jerri bandwagon.

    I loved Sandra at TC last night. "Our machete grew little legs and walked away." You can tell she's frustrated. I'm still loving her from Pearl Islands for tossing the fish after they got rid of her friend.
  17. smurfy

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    Fun episode. Little things amused me. The challenge was wow, so lopsided.
    I am still enjoying Jerri and yes, why are they not getting rid of Parvarti, she is playing hard and as pointed out, she has friends on the other tribe.
    Candice - annoys, hope Cirie sticks around.
    JT - nice guy, enjoy his game
    Still loving Rob. He really gets the game. I think he is running the villains, as much as it can be run. The others definitely are not.
    Coach is still Coach, I do not like him, but he is so entertaining.
    Tyson - where are you?
    Danielle - still not remembering you.
    Rupert - please get voted out.
  18. Cupid

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    Do you remember the sandbag thing each was given to knock their opponent off the platform and into the mud? Well, after James proceeded to knock Randy off immediately with the sandbag, he then slammed the sandbag onto Randy as Randy lay in the mud. Totally uncalled for and poor Randy looked so humuliated. I think James wishes he were on the "Villains" side so he could be a villain instead of a hero (reinforcing negative stereotypes, way to go James :rolleyes:).

    I'm glad to see Parvati's still there as I'm sure there will be some fireworks between her and Jerri soon.:watch:
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    Jeff Probst really takes James to task in his blog this week:

    http://popwatch.ew.com/2010/02/26/j...ed-todayslatest-Jeff Probst's 'Survivor' blog

    I’ve been a big fan of James from day one. I voted for him to be on Fans vs. Favorites and I voted for him to be on Heroes vs. Villains and up until this season I would have referred to him with affectionate phrases like “James the Gentle Giant.” Yeah… those days are gone.

    I don’t know if James was going through something personal like trying to quit smoking or if he had a bad rash nobody knew about but something has definitely changed.

    James is just not a nice guy these days.


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    “The Most Embarrassing” match: It’s now official. James has clearly lost his mind. It’s el gonzo. It was the most lopsided match of the challenge. There was no doubt who was going to win. James knocked Randy off with one small push and then…he threw his bag on top of him and as always had to have the last word. “Get your f—ing old ass outta here.” Sorry James but this is where I get off the James train. It’s not that I think Randy is the nicest guy in the world either, but that was just unnecessary and truly ugly.
  20. sk8pics

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    Oh, I didn't notice that. Yes, I would agree that was pretty obnoxious. But I still say, what were the villains thinking putting Randy up against James anyway?
  21. Prancer

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    Definitely building. In last week's Insider vids, Parvati told everyone that she had seen Jerri and Coach making out on the beach. When people asked Jerri about it, she denied it, but Parvati insisted that she saw what she saw and then giggled about it in a confessional.

    James talks about that in one of this week's Insider videos; he was really pumped up, as were all the Heroes, and he later did feel bad about doing it.

    But yeah, James is just a little out of control :eek:. Ha ha ha at Parvati yelling, "I told you you were on the wrong tribe, James."
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    James is freaking out and so angry all the time. I'm annoyed watching him. I hope both Parvati and Rupert are voted out soon.

    I love Boston Rob.:swoon:
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    From the article:

    :rofl: Gawd I love Jeff's comments!! He says what we are all thinking, don't he!



    Ain't THAT the truth Randy! I'll be your friend Randy! I always liked you regardless what anyone else said 'bout u. :respec:
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    I am willing to bet the bank that this entire group is going to be kicking themselves in their own asses a little later on for not getting rid of Parvati tonight. I know she's not at all that popular among the fans (and people here), but it is undeniable that she knows what she is doing. The girl can play the game hardcore, and she can do a kickass job at it. I'm not particularly liking her this time around so far, but I give her maaaad props for her gameplay.

    Liking Jerri a lot. I've always thought she was quite a piece of work, and now she's hilarious and awesome.

    Can't stand too much more of James on my TV. Russell also is annoying the crap out of me -- I just don't like him anymore after his whining about losing to Natalie, and then claiming to be the best player that's ever played. I hate Coach too, but he's somewhat entertaining, at least.
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    I just finished watching this week's episode. There's been so much other going on, I didn't get a chance to really watch it.

    I agree that the villains are going to kick themselves in the ass because they didn't get rid of Parvati at the first opportunity. I understand that the idea is usually to get rid of the weakest/oldest players to keep the tribe strong, but Parvati is more of an immediate threat. Jerri said it best, comparing Parvati to a virus. I don't understand it, but is seems like people end of befriending her, even when they try their best to stay away from her.

    I'm really disturbed by the flirting of the married men on this tribe. Rob (we all know he's married to Am-buh!) and Russell cuddling up with these women is just shameless. Rob tried to explain to us about the sleeping arrangements, but that's not going down very well for me.

    Getting rid of Randy was clearly Rob's decision. Everyone else seemed perfectly content to get rid of Parvati at first. I'm dying to know what/how she was able to convince her tribe to get ride of Randy--someone who wasn't a threat physically and didn't have any alliances with anyone on either tribe.

    Somehow, I don't believe that Russell is being led by the nose the way everyone else seems to think. He's seen Parvati play the game and is "aware" of her charms. I think that she has more to be concerned about than he does. He's setting everyone up for a huge fall.

    Gotta love Sandra and her "anybody but me" strategy. By not claiming an alliance, she admits that she's has no allegiances to anyone but herself. If she makes it to the merge, this is brilliant, because she can go whatever way she needs to without stepping on anyone's toes.

    I don't know who I'm rooting for anymore. Last week, I was pulling for the Villains, and I think I still am. I just don't know which specific one anymore. That keeps changing. I'll have to let simmer on that one for a little bit longer.
  26. smurfy

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    Wow - great episode...
    Coach - crying, omg, where is the stick finger down throat emoticon.
    Coach - you are insecure and have a fake facade, get over it.
    Tyson - seemed genuine with Coach and kind, and telling him to stop telling stories that no one believes. hee hee
    Rob - still love him. I like how he handled Coach, could be a smart move.
    Rob would deserve the win so far.
    Sandra is awesom.
    Immunity idol clues - too funny how both teams found them
    Wonder if Russel has been looking all along and they did not show it?
    Immunity challenge - cool to see it finished this time.
    Love the scramble with the Heroes and who was getting voted out.
    I love Cirie, sorry to see her go, but great move by Tom, Colby and JT.
    And Rupert, Amanda, James and Candice reactions were great. it is now 3-4, and with the 4 and previews, Candice or someone will change sides, so the 4 will dwindle. Those 4 deserve to go.

    Tom or Rob to win the whole thing!!!!
  27. Cupid

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    Yes! Cirie is gone!
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    No! Cirie is gone. I wanted her to go the distance, but I do love how the power game on Heroes just shifted.
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    Great move.
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    I so hope the two of them last long enough to form an alliance together. They're the two best players by far!
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    I missed the last 2 eps and considered just bagging this whole season but I'm so glad I tuned in tonight. Really wish I'd seen the TC 2 weeks ago, sounds like it was crayzee.

    Russell Russell Russell...I was hoping after a few weeks (days for them, I know) he'd figure out how to work this crowd, but it hasn't sunk in that these players are every bit as smart and shrewd (or more) as he is. :wall: I still think Rob's a jerk but he is pwning Russell in every way.

    How the hell did Tyson keep it together during Coach's sobfest? We wuzrobbed of Tyson snark afterwards too :drama:

    Sandra rules.

    I missed whatever put Tom and Colby on the outs with their tribe (although I'm not surprised based on the natural alliances the Heroes had before they even started). I love me some Cirie, and Colby is almost as useless as Rupert, but I was cheering at the way that vote rolled out. Cirie dug her own grave by making too much noise about Candice, and getting rid of her now both eliminates the biggest strategic threat (esp. for Tom and JT) and one of the weakest challenge players, so maybe the Heroes will get it together next week.

    Apparently Dani is still in this game but I only know that because Jeff said her name once.
  32. Prancer

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    Was that disappointing or what? I was just waiting for a Tyson snark and ........*crickets*.

    In one of the Insider vids last week, Coach was preening himself because every night after dinner, Rob would ask him to tell stories.

    I :lol: when I heard that. Crafty, crafty Rob--keep Coach happy and annoying in one fell swoop.

    I noticed her in the challenge. When she went for that belly flop, I thought she at least had a couple of cushions to land on, unlike Courtney. My eyes, my eyes! :yikes: Why, for the love of God, is she wearing a bikini? And what will she look like in those scraps if she makes it to the end? :scream:
  33. sk8pics

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    Cirie is gone, yay! I just have never liked her --always found her a bit smug-- and it was a great move, finally! It seems like so often the players do not make the big moves, but this time J.T. did. I can't wait to see what happens with the Heros next.

    And I could not believe Coach. :rolleyes: Does he talk like this in real life or is he just making this stuff up to get air time. I've never liked Sandra much either, but I was kind of :lol: that little Sandra made Coach cry.

    Agree that Rob is doing a great job, and also jumping on the Tom & Rob bandwagon!
  34. smurfy

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    Yes - no Tyson snark, missed that, but he was pretty nice to Coach.

    So funny about Rob playing with Coach. This is such a set up. Remember when Rob and Amber got split up on the first All Stars and Rob asked Lex to watch out for her. So this is how Rob won over Lex, and others too.
    Got to love him. What he is doing is so out in the open that the others don't see it.
  35. Jenny

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    ((((It's like we were all watching together.))))

    I too was waiting for the punchline when Tyson and Coach were talking, and at the same time was happy to see Tyson being a reasonable good guy. And speaking for all of us in saying stop it with the feathers at TC and the stories! :lol: that Rob has been encouraging the stories though - it's clear that Coach hero-worships him, and I think that will work to Rob's advantage down the road. Interesting that Jerri wasn't part of that little drama.

    I know that they haven't had to do much targeting yet, but it looks to me like Rob will go far, as although they all know he's a good player, several at least would be happy to ride the Rob train to the end, and hopefully pull an Amber and beat him eventually.

    I'm amazed Russell hasn't found that idol yet. :wall: to go looking for it though - did he think no one would see him? :lol: at Sandra spying in the bushes again, deja vu. And Rob ordering her to do it.

    Also agree with all that getting rid of Cirie was the right move, and agree with half that I will miss her. :) I could have happily done without Tom, Colby or Candice because I don't really feel an affinity for any of them, but I do agree it was a smart move all round and Cirie is super dangerous.

    Especially for JT. I'm still not sure everyone gets what he's really about. Great challenge player physically, but do they realize how good he is mentally too? Maybe - and they all get what a nice guy he is, but do they understand how much of a spell he casts on them all, and how he is using that as his main weapon in this game? I'm very much looking forward to how he explains his vote when they get back to camp. :cool:

    Style notes: Cirie's jaunty hat at the challenge :hat1:, James looking positively metallic all oiled up, and I have to say that Colby wears a do-rag well. His looks do nothing for me (sloping shoulders yuck), but I did think he looked cute at TC.
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  36. purple skates

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    The look on JT's face at tribal - he looked to be a nervous wreck. I felt kind of bad for him. I agree that getting rid of Cirie was a smart - she can be so dangerous. I'm bummed, though, because I wanted her to get far.
  37. genevieve

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    best part about the Coach/Tyson talk was Coach being all "I'm so sensitive, help me!!" and the second Tyson said "I may have to tell you some things you don't want to hear" Coach snaps out of it "Like what?" It definitely didn't occur to him that he might want to change anything :lol: But even then, Tyson kept his comments on target and non-snarky. wuzrobbed.

    JT is the nicer Boston Rob.

    I find Courtney less scary to look at in a bikini than the girls whose tops barely cover their grapefruit-sized (and shaped) implants :scream: And I'm convinced the producers require all females with BMI under a certain percent to wear bikinis on the show. I doubt even the most exhibitionist among them would be thrilled knowing how fond the camera is of getting the most salacious and unflattering ass shots during comps :lol: and too often bikini tops hinder the player in a challenge. Sometimes it looks like going topless would have been easier than dealing with a top that keeps slipping.
  38. Cupid

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    :lol:Why, wasn't she crawling on all fours in that first challenge! She's not athletic at all! Just conniving.
  39. genevieve

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    Do you really think athletic ability is the key component to being a dangerous player in this game?
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  40. Jenny

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    Personally, if I flopped down onto my (entirely natural) chest, it would hurt like hell. I would be crawling too.