Survivor Caramoan (Season 26)

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by Catherine M, Jan 11, 2013.

  1. Matryeshka

    Matryeshka Well-Known Member

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    If I were Cochran, I'd get rid of Eddie. Just watching for an hour and fifteen minutes, Dawn and Sherrie annoy the crap out of me. He could sail to the million easily with either of them. He also seems to have a lot of buddies on jury from the season overview at the beginning. A hot guy who saves lives and wants to use the million dollars to open a dog bar--I'll bet all the girls would vote for him.
  2. my little pony

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    dog bar is kind of cute
  3. Fridge_Break

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    Well that was expected :lol:

    I had ran into spoilers last summer, so I knew who made it to the end :mad: ... interesting is that the general idea was that Dawn got completely slammed by the jury and was a complete trainwreck, but she certainly had an impressive showing, IMO. No crying, owning her gameplay, etc. Not surprised to see Sherri get completely ignored after like 2 jury questions :lol: I wish they'd dump the final-3, it is so pointless as one person is almost always ignored.
  4. Matryeshka

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    Granted, I'm not a regular viewer of Survivor, but I don't get this whole talk of "betrayal." It's people you've known at the most 39 days, and it's a game. It's not the first five seasons anymore. You know what's coming, and these two have been here before. This is ridiculous.

    As for friendships for most people most of the time, I imagine it's a lot like high school and family reunions. For a brief moment in time, your friends and you say you're going to keep up and hang out or whatever, but you don't. You go back to your real life, and they all become somebody you used to know.
  5. smurfy

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    I think I now understand the editing this season. If we saw what was actually going on, We would have known awhile ago that Cochran would win. As much crying and breakdowns we saw of Dawn, we barely saw as much as what really happened.
    Love how Cochrane really has grown n matured. a well deserved win.
    Sherri - hard to believe she is successful, with an Amanda like FTC.
    Malcolm, does look like Fabiola, like someone posted earlier.

    FTC. Sherri bring ignored. Malcolm's reactions. Overall very entertaining.
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  6. dbell1

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    I loved the new format with only the focus being on the top players. We didn't have to hear Shemar whine or listen to Jeff give time to people voted out early. And :cheer2: to no Hantz mention at all!

    PS - Rudy - you're a homophobe and it stopped being funny years ago.
  7. smurfy

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    So true. I did wonder if the Hantz issue is why the whole cast was not on stage. So something good came out of it!
    I think it is wonderful that Dawn adopted children. But, IMHO, is not the reason one should receive a vote in this competition.
    Another comment on the editing, with all I have read, I think Erik was not shown how much better he was playing. They left him set up to come back again. Corinne looked a little like Jerri tonight
  8. Fridge_Break

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    That was the worst reunion show ever (I admit that no Hantz's was an improvement, however), but to have the pre-jury in the audience, which is a huge slap in the face to them -- they were part of the show, too! -- and to still yet ignore 4 of the 10 who were sitting on the stage (Eddie, Sherri, Michael, and Erik), it was awful! Didn't need to see Boston Rob for the 2903852895th time... Rudy was okay but the interview could have been half as long.

    Nice that they got Brenda in via sattelite. Congratulations to her on hew baby-to-be :)
  9. halffull

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    Congrats to Cochran .. my #2 choice from the start. No surprise Malcolm won the fan fav. award. Good luck to Brenda :) such a cutie!!!

    Boring finally.

    Next season ... blood vs water. Any thoughts? One tribe all family and the other not related at all? There must be some good twist ...
  10. Prancer

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    But it's obviously true, given the clue.

    ITA. One of the things I always liked about Jeff doing the finale instead of Bryant Gumbel (remember when he hosted the reunion shows?) was that Jeff always made sure every cast member got to say something about their lives since the show; I thought it was interesting to see where they all ended up. Then it was, well, not every cast member gets to say something. Now it's like the winner and first loser get to speak and whoever the producers think should have won ( you KNOW they wanted Malcolm to win) and then they trot out past Survivors, which is even worse than it was when Bryant Gumbel was the host.

    I am sure there are people who are interested in Boston Rob's book, but :yawn:. I am shocked that Jeff didn't let Phillip plug his book, too, or plug his two kids' books.

    Apparently the cast members were told of the decision to keep the pre-jurors off the stage right before the show started. And wheeeee, they are not happy.
  11. PeterG

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    What was funny about Rudy's homophobia in the past? :confused:
  12. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    I had a moment of panic during FTC - Dawn owned that Tribal :eek: Sherri was never going to get any votes, but it's too bad that she fell apart, since she made a case for her game in her beach confessional beforehand. I expected Cochran's TC performance to be a lot stronger than it was. Clearly it worked for him, but highlighting his insecurity seemed an odd choice, and the whole "I'd be at the bar with you guys" was weird. Dawn OTOH did a phenomenal job of answering all questions, and not just in comparison to how everyone expected her to behave. Good for her for the teeth thing, but honestly I just wanted her to tell Brenda to get over herself already, it's a freakin GAME!!

    Re: Reunion - this season had so much craziness there's no way it could all get covered adequately...and yet there's time to trot out Boston Rob AGAIN?! And to pimp his fcuking book? :wall: The preteen who was supposed to fangirl Malcolm froze on camera, and the Rudy bit was useless. I'm ok with getting nothing from most of the early boots - I thought Corrinne deserved at least a line or two, but none of the favorites who didn't make the jury were worth any camera time. That sucks that they weren't told about the format until the last moment, though. And I HATE the Twitter updates :mad:

    It would be funny if the preview meant it would be an all-female season next time :HA!:

    I'm shocked that Malcolm edged out Brenda for the fan favorite after all the outrage since Wednesday.

    ETA: WTH was up with Erik at FTC? yes, everyone but Sherri knew she was a goat, but why all that anger? I'm glad she dished it right back to him...even though he was technically right and she was delusional, his tantrum made him look like a petulant little boy who didn't get the toy he wanted. It wasn't Sherri's fault he went out the way he did, but you'd never know it by the way he went after her.

    Also: for the first time in EVER everyone looked better at the reunion than they did on the show. I think it's because there were only 4 women in the jury phase, so a lot less chance for OTT drag queen makeup. But they all looked good. :glamor: (ok I can't resist - hey Malcolm! Brad Pitt called, he wants his 1990's look back! :p)
  13. jamesy

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    Oh, Sherri, bless. I'm not sure what her awkward "I'm actually successful in real life and have lots of money" speech was supposed to accomplish.

    I hope Malcolm uses his fan favorite money to buy himself some nicer headbands. (And acting lessons...)
  14. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    sssssssrsly! :scream:
  15. BaileyCatts

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    :cheer2: for Cochran! And with no "bitter votes" (I hate those), winning 4 challenges, and getting all 7 votes I assume since no other votes were shown. That must be wild to be such a fan of something, like he is of Survivor, to actually win it. He cleans up nice too. :p

    On the tease for next season, I guessed it was something meaning "blood in the water" and was thinking it might be a revenge type show. Like players who (either real or imagined) had some revenge they wanted to deal out for being blindsided or whatever. I think I would like that better than what y'all are saying it really is. They better be good players if its true, and not "token players".

    When you see Brenda sitting there pregnant and ready to pop, you realize this season really did end almost a year ago! :lol: I can't believe I never came across one spoiler in all that time. Of course, I didn't go looking, but even just in passing I never heard or saw anything about this season. I spoiled myself once on TAR and vowed to never do that again. Totally ruins watching when you do that.
  16. Fridge_Break

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    Regarding the "format" for next season:

    Favorites vs. Family -- not sure if this is what it will be called, but it is slated to be a tribe of returnees :blah: vs. a tribe of their own loved ones. Next spoiler tag is regarding location. The last spoiler tag is the speculated cast.
    They will be in the Philippines again next season, although in a different part of the country. Speculated cast below.
    Speculated cast:

    Tina Wesson (Australia) and her daughter
    Aras Baskauskas (Exile Island) and his brother
    Rob Cesternino (Amazon) and his wife
    Rupert Boneham (Pearl Islands) and his wife
    Monica Culpepper (One World) and her husband, Brad
    Laura Morett (Samoa) and her daughter
    Kat Edorsson (One World) and her cousin
    Gervase Peterson (Borneo) and his nephew
    Tyson Apostol (Tocantins) and his girlfriend
    RC Saint-Amour (Philippines) and her father
  17. Prancer

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    Now I thought that was just the right tack for Cochran to take, especially in response to Malcolm's douchey question (why do people like Malcolm so?). Most Survivor juries respond well to confidence ("I did it, yes, I did") but do not respond well to arrogance ("I owned your asses, yes, I did.") In a confessional, Cochran might have said "What do I have that you don't have? I'm just as smart as you think you are," but that would not play well with the Three AmEgos. Saying "I'm a dweeb and you're not," OTOH, both strokes Malcolm's ego and makes Cochran appear honest, self-aware and humble. Like Reynold said (sort of), with some distance, the players recognize that it's a game and that's all it is, but at the time, it doesn't feel that way, and the juries don't want to hear "I won because I'm just that much better than you."

    That said, I thought Dawn held up really well at Tribal Council, surprisingly so given that she spent a week in a mental health facility after it was all over.
  18. Cherub721

    Cherub721 YEAH!

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    Ehhh at that spoilered cast list. I only recognize 4 names and I don't remember any of them fondly.

    They gave such short shrift to Erik leaving. That is really devastating... I don't think anyone has ever been pulled medically that late into the game... I would've liked them to talk to him more at the finale at least. He barely reacted when they pulled him; must have been totally out of it. Maybe his anger at Sherri was residual anger about that. I imagine he'll have a free pass as a favorite in a future season if he wants it. We never really got to see what his deal was this season with all the errant votes (poor gameplay or strategy).

    Happy Brenda is pregnant but lifting her dress was strange... :huh:

    Cochran looked hot all cleaned up :shuffle: Pretty flawless game from him. Has anyone ever won unanimously before?
  19. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    True enough. It was the response to Reynold's question about the bar that was weirdest - but then, as with Malcolm, it showed what a smarmy git Reynold is. He really just cannot get beyond high school mentality, can he?

    ETA: it was apparently Eddie's question, not Reynold's :duh:

    Three AmEgos :rofl:

    The reunion format was awful for all kinds of reasons, but I wish there's been some acknowledgement that Eddie and Reynold were on the outs from day 1 in their tribe because they chose a Cool Kids Alliance - and they can't count ;)


    Considering the high tide of emotions among fans, I'm sure it was to prove that she really was pregnant and not just staying away out of spite. Not that there won't be conspiracy theories about prosthetics, but.... :scream:
  20. purple skates

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    Your question made me curious so I looked it up.

    http://survivor.50webs.com/facts.htm

    ETA - something else interesting from that site.

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  21. dbell1

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    I misspoke there. I never find it funny. But, I think years ago, he decided it was his 'schtick' and he's still doing it. I thought even Probst looked uncomfortable there.
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  22. Moto Guzzi

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    Dawn did a good job at TC, and I thought she might get a vote or two. I didn't expect Sherri to get any but I did enjoy watching her come back at Eric and show she had some personality instead of the bland, passive one she showed all season. I didn't get all his anger at her. Even if he hadn't been pulled from the game, there's no guarantee he would have been in the final three. Sherri would have been there no matter what because she wasn't going to get any votes--not unless she suddenly peeled off her face and revealed, not one of the lizard people from V, but Boston Rob in disguise.

    How many times must we have Boston Rob foisted on us? I thought he, Rudy, and Malcolm fan girl were a complete waste of time. I would rather have seen more of the current cast, particularly Corinne. I was glad Cochran won.
  23. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    Funny, since Probst was the one egging him on, what with the S1 clip of suntan lotion and Hatch's video.
  24. Jenny

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    I only flipped back and forth while watching something else, but I too thought the non-jury members got ripped off just because of Brandon - even more so to learn they only found out at the last minute. It was already odd with Brenda not there - it was awkward overall.

    And, even though I'm a big Boston Rob fan, I agree that this is the moment for THIS cast, not retreads from the past. If they still think those characters have traction, they should do a one-hour special - top 10 moments in Survivor or something, with a reunion of interesting cast members, chat, etc. Could even get the audience involved - voting on social media etc. If no one thinks that's worthy of a tv special, they could do it online/social media.

    Also agree that audience comments (which are so obviously scripted) are pointless, as are twitter captions when they could be using that time to show you faces in the audience. And oddly, as I jumped back and forth, I managed to catch Jeff ask Cochran something he had already addressed, forcing him to basically repeat and answer that was also similar to something he had just said at final TC (filmed last year I know, but we just saw it). Very bad use of precious air time.

    The person that impressed me was Andrea - what a great attitude for someone so young. Expected her to fall into the AmEgos I'm young and popular crap, but there's seems to be more to her.

    Meh to the spoiler on returning cast members next season. Can't even remember half of them.

    Glad Cochran won though - he deserved it, and it's always good to see a true fan of the game who played it with everything he had win.
  25. Catherine M

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    On next season's cast spoiler:

    Reality Blurred says its Hayden from Big Brother playing with his girlfriend Kat.

    The only other thing different on Reality Blurred's list is Rob C is out and Colton is in.

    I guess we'll see soon who is getting a chance to play for the second, third, and in Rupert's case FOURTH TIME!
  26. Fridge_Break

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    Photo of the pre-jury contestants sitting in the audience.
  27. genevieve

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    Francesca wuzrobbed :drama:

    EW has an interview with Cochran, I found this part hilarious and a bit :wall:

    I'm relieved to hear that Cochran wasn't taking that idiotic question seriously, and amused/horrified that Jeffy played into the bro-code-ness of it.

    http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/05/13/john-cochran-survivor-caramoan/

    :rofl:
  28. Prancer

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    Rob C announced yesterday that his wife is pregnant and they are moving to a new apartment and so will be offline for several weeks starting today, which Sucks, at least, is taking as a sure sign that Rob is in and Colton is out.

    Rupert? Gag! Not only is he coming back for yet another round, but his tweets all this season have shown him to be even less aware of gameplay than we even thought. He thought Sherri was going to win, for god's sake.
  29. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    I finally gave in and saw the alleged cast list
    I'm surprised people are saying they don't know most of these folks - there are only 2 who weren't extremely memorable to me. Gah - Rupert coming back AGAIN?!? :scream: And it's game #3 for Tina, Tyson, and Cesternino (although I loved his game the first time he played). i don't know anyone who's been dying to see Gervase again, but I think the flashback to old seasons last night was in part to help people remember players from waaaaay back. I did notice Gervase got a healthy bit of airtime in that package (food challenge).

    Kat :blah:

    Colton. NO. Just no. For the love of all that is holy, no. :scream:

    And I still hate the format.
  30. Sparks

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    What did Erik say to/about Sherri? Sorry, I must've missed it.
  31. genevieve

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    Erik asked Sherri if she understood why she was taken to the F3, did she know it's because she was a floater. She tried to say it was due to her game play and he just railed at her about how useless she was, he called her a "seashell" (as it, she was just there all the time). It was a surprisingly angry attack, and Sherri ended up cutting him off and telling him there was no point since it was clear he wasn't going to vote for her no matter what, and she told him to sit down.
  32. Catherine M

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    I remember all the ex players pretty well too except for Laura.

    And After seeing the shirtless pics of Monica's ex-NFL player husband I'm 100% convinced the format was thought of by Probst and company to get Brad on the show. He's totally the alpha male 40's guy that Probst LOVES ala Tom & Terry!! With Hayden, Aras' brother and Brad, the family tribe on paper is going to have the stronger males but we all saw how that went for the fans this past season.

    Andy from Reality Blurred seems pretty sure its Colton and his boyfriend not Rob C and his wife on; if you switch out Gervase's nephew for a niece it makes the male/female ratio work out on the family tribe.

    But Andy did say in his last post that production does change things up so who knows what's going on with Rob C.
  33. Sparks

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    :rofl:
    I just caught the end of that when Sherri said he wasn't going to vote for her anyway.
  34. genevieve

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    wow, now there's an interview with Erik, and he is both super pissed about the finale and majorly bittercakes about the show.
  35. KHenry14

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    Congrats to Cochran. He played a beautiful game, and killed it on challenges. And fully deserved to get all the votes. Unlike some, I thought he did a beautiful job in the Final Tribal. I am a bit surprised that Dawn didn't get any votes, this is one time where the behavior of the castaway was really held against them. Sounds like the incessant crying must have been really annoying.

    And for god's sake, can we at least go one season without a Mariano sighting????
  36. BaileyCatts

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    They look thrilled.

    So was Brandon actually there, ready to go, and then they told him no way you are not participating? Or was he not even in the studio? While I can understand not wasting their short amount of air time on the players who didn't even make the Jury, they could at least let them sit on the stage.
  37. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    They decided a couple of days beforehand that Brandon would not be allowed at the finale. It was the other pre-jury players who were only told about not getting to sit on the stage right before the show.

    I still can't believe after 5 seasons of Hantzes shoved down our throats they didn't even mention Brandon not being there. Even the most causal of viewers who's at least been watching the finales for the past few years had to be saying "where's that short angry dude with the hat?" (since Russell has plenty to say even when he wasn't part of the season).
  38. Prancer

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    The interviews are interesting. Dawn said she wasn't expecting the jury to be nearly so angry and bitter; she handled it really well, at least on the surface.

    And this:

    Cochran: At the merge, the most important vote was the Corinne vote. It wasn’t clear we were going to have the numbers. Andrea was going to talk to Eddie to get him on board, but she was called away for an interview. And it was at a point that we knew we were going to get called away for Tribal Council in the next ten minutes. I was terrified she wouldn’t get to talk to him. So I went to Eddie, not having spoken to him over the previous three days, and introduced myself and told him we were voting for Corinne. Malcolm saw me do this, Malcolm goes right up to Eddie. I see this intense conversation between them. That could’ve blown everything. Had Eddie ratted me out, Malcolm could have played the idol for Corinne and it would’ve been a disaster. That would’ve ruined my game.

    I actually LOL when I read that, as Eddie TWICE ruined Malcolm's plans by blabbing, but somehow kept his mouth shut TO Malcolm when he should have said something and managed to ruin the game yet again for The Three AmEgos. Malcolm keeps making digs at Eddie on Twitter and I see why. What a doofus. Not that I wanted any of those three to win (I think a few more doses of televised humiliation would do them all some good), but still. Cochran says that Malcolm and Andrea would never have voted for Eddie if he had made the finals, which is interesting--and probably true, considering that Cochran is good friends with both of them now.

    And also LOL that the first thing Cochran intends to buy is a Segway, as he's wanted one for years. And he already has a writing job--he's going to be the Big Brother re-cap writer for EW.
  39. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    Cochran really is Scott Evil come to life, isn't he? :lol:

    Poor Eddie. What a doof.
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