Stupid, stupid, stupid...

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by nubka, May 31, 2012.

  1. *Jen*

    *Jen* Well-Known Member

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    I don't eat any of those things. Fake butter? Fake cheese? :drama: Mais NON! :p

    It depends...I was advised to eat it BECAUSE it's estrogenic. Not every woman has too much estrogen. Or even enough :drama:
  2. PrincessLeppard

    PrincessLeppard Pink Bitch

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    FOOD FIGHT! With gnomes. :D

    You better not touch my "fake" Brian. :mad:

    ;)
  3. cruisin

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    Just a warning: My cholesterol is actually good. Around 178 total, and my HDL?LDL ratio is excellent. But, I have a genetic predisposition for building plaque. So, I am supposed to keep my fat intake down (especially saturated and trans), and I am on Crestor. Even with relatively low cholesterol, I have some coronary artery plaque. So, for everyone's well being, don't assume that you have no plaque, just because your cholesterol is not high.
  4. Anita18

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    So...how can they tell without going in there and taking a look? A quick Wikipedia search says we can only really look at it postmortem, otherwise doctors have only physical stress tests (which can only tell if it's so bad it's affecting your blood circulation) or expensive imaging tests.

    Heart disease does not run in my family so I can't imagine how any of us would know if we had plaque (or any doctors would check for it beyond the usual cholesterol/triglyceride tests) unless somebody gets a heart attack...

    It all depends on family history and what you're predispositioned to. I don't think it would be cost-effective to test everyone 40+ for athleroschlerosis, especially if you can only really test for it when it's very bad.
  5. milanessa

    milanessa engaged to dupa

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    I'm not certain Wiki is accurate on this one (tell me it's not so :)). This link, which granted is from a commercial site, indicates otherwise.

    http://www.centracare.com/specialty_centers/heart/card_scoring.html

    My PCP is both an internist and a cardiologist and I've had the test done a couple of times over the years. My insurance covers it but I still get the EOB and see what he charges - it's not very expensive.
  6. cruisin

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    They absolutely can see plaque/blockage in a living person, with an Angiogram. I was tested with a CT Angiogram. A CAT Scan with dye. They then did a stress test, which was good. If the stress test had been a problem they would have done an actual Angiogram to determine how much blockage there is. Right now, I know there is blockage, but it doesn't appear to be enough to correct. I was having palpitations and severe back pain, they thought I might have been having a heart attack (two years ago). They still don't really know what happened, they did enzyme tests, the heart enzyme test was elevated (which would indicate a heart attack). But the general muscle enzyme was not elevated, which would suggest a possible false positive on the cardiac enzyme (troponin) being elevated. They are thinking it might have been a cardiac or an esophageal spasm. They did find that I have some fluid around my heart. They don't know why that's there, after lots of tests :scream:!
  7. nubka

    nubka Well-Known Member

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    Ugh. Skim milk looks like watery-grey breast milk... :yikes:
  8. milanessa

    milanessa engaged to dupa

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    And it's not even free. ;)
  9. cruisin

    cruisin Well-Known Member

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    I get Skim Plus, it tastes better. And it has more calcium.
  10. Anita18

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    Ah, so you were having symptoms.

    I was just afraid that my parents might be missing something, since they never mention getting any heart tests when they go to the doctor. Usually they get scolded for not weighing enough. :shuffle: Cancer (different kinds) and osteoporosis runs in my family, but not heart disease. I'm not old enough to know yet, but was just wondering if getting tested for atherosclerosis was something you were supposed to do...
  11. cruisin

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    Probably not to the degree I was tested. But, the test Milanessa mentioned would probably be good, at least for a baseline.

    Osteoporosis runs in my family too. I already have osteopina. It sucks getting old! :)
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  12. Sparks

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    I admit, I'm a bit envious. :shuffle:
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    gkelly Well-Known Member

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