Story proclaims "quad back after rule change"

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  1. caseyedwards

    caseyedwards Well-Known Member

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    Quad back after figure skating rule change
    By Shigemi Sato (AFP) – 4 hours ago

    http://www.google.com/hostednews/af...ocId=CNG.6f4b5aa5633087bf3a787c537dc06ab9.3b1

    "I didn't want to be outdone after seeing them jump the quad just like that. But I did it calmly," Takahashi said. "It's a very good trend that Japanese and other skaters are trying it one after another. We were lucky we could land it in our first competition."

    "It's a fruit of the rule change that our three men landed a quad," said Hidehito Ito, figure skating director at the Japanese Skating Federation.

    US champion Jeremy Abbott, who finished runner-up at the NHK Trophy, avoided the quad because of a lack of proper training due to his struggle to find the right pair of boots.

    But the 25-year-old American said he would do it in his next Grand Prix, the November 19-21 Cup of Russia in Moscow. "I hope to get the boot issues resolved for Russia so I can go in there stronger with the quad," he said.

    Frenchman Florent Amodio, 20, who finished third for his first Grand Prix podium, said: "I feel the quadruple is becoming a required element."
     
  2. Japanfan

    Japanfan Well-Known Member

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    How specifically has the rule changed?
     
  3. officialcoach

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    70% rule for underrotated
     
  4. Sedge

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    ISU Communication # 1611 outlines the new rules and values

    http://www.isu.org/vsite/vnavsite/page/directory/0,10853,4844-130127-131435-nav-list,00.html

    The quad has increased in base value from 9.8 to 10.3
    The GOE for a fall...is lowered this year ( from 4.8 to 3.0)
    Last season a 1/4 to 1/2 cheat that was downgraded to the level of a triple ( 10.3 down to 4.0). this season 1/4 to 1/2 cheat is valued at 70% of the quad ( so 10.3 down to 7.2)..so you have forgiveness in rotation before you go down to the value of a triple jump ( that happens at more than 1/2 cheat)

    So it is a layered benefit this seaon. ..higher base value..less costly for a fall...less punitive for a 1/-1/2 cheat.

    They haven't been able to reduce the physical pain from falling on a quad in the new Scale of values though ;)
     
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  5. sequinsgalore

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    An example on the quad toe loop before and now.

    Before:
    - Fall on a fully rotated quad was worth 4 points (4T: 9.8 - 4.8 - 1.0 = 4.0) or the same as a triple toe loop
    - Fall on an underrotated quad was worth 0 point (4T< : 4.0 - 3.0 - 1.0 = 0)

    Now:
    - Fall on a rotated quad is worth 6.3 points (4T: 10.3 - 3.0 - 1.0 = 6.3) which is more than a triple lutz!
    - Fall on a underrotated, not downgraded, quad is worth 3.3 points (4T< = 7.3 - 3.0 - 1.0 = 3.3) or the same as a double axel
    - Fall on a downgraded quad is worth 1 point (4T<<: 4.1 - 2.1 - 1.0 = 1.0)

    Hope that helps a bit.
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  6. manleywoman

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    Thanks sequisgalore
     
  7. Japanfan

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    What's the value of a quad triple and quad double?
     
  8. hanca

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    That depends which jumps.
     
  9. elif

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    4T+2T=11.70
    4T+3T=14.40