Asli - thanks a lot for all the insights. Well if he did have a serious knee injury that forced him out of football, then I can't imagine him making it to the 2014 season at all. Once he starts to jump and do lifts regularly, the pressure on his knees will be immense and the injury will most likely start flaring up again. Shame. Orbitz - Bestandigova has retired a while ago. Being Turkish National Champion (just don't mention you where the only ones competing ) is only going to help her show career, I think.