Skater you remember that no one else does.

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  1. coppertop1

    coppertop1 Active Member

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    I saw Zuzanna at 1997 Skate Canada, she was fourth. She didn't make the Olympic team in 1998, Anna Rechnio did. I'm guessing she retired after that.
     
  2. robbyveldez

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    Poor Zuzanna was always in the shadow of headcase Anna.
     
  3. robbyveldez

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    She was a very elegant, beautiful and complete skater. She turned pro as she got some touring opportunities in Europe after 94. She was only on the international scene a couple years.

    Her short program at the 94 Olympics was outstanding and the most undermarked performance of the Games. I would have had her 5th.
     
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  4. overedge

    overedge Well-Known Member

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    I saw her a couple of times in Ice Capades. She was a really good skater.

    And she reminds me of some of the other US ladies in the early 80s who were brilliant and powerful, like Lori Benton. This is her with the ponytail at the start of this video from Holiday on Ice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpaj3FaTiRU

    And Wendy Burge: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQgMn8RVDGM&list=PL68E155A4DCA054BA

    And Barbie Smith, who was fourth at worlds in 1977: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WC6oy_2vyA&index=2&list=PL68E155A4DCA054BA
     
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  5. fenway2

    fenway2 Well-Known Member

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    It seemed like a smart decision at the time but then Meno and Sand showed up to Nagano looking woefully unprepared and unfit.
     
  6. Seerek

    Seerek Well-Known Member

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    People often forget that until 1998, it's was back and forth between Zuzanna Szwed and Anna Rechnio for the Polish National title and the World Championship spot (Szwed making it in 1991-93, 1996-97, Rechnio the years in between plus 1999-2000) .

    A little unfortunate that Szwed had such a poor 1997-8 Polish Nationals result (3rd) after a reasonably good Grand Prix season (2 fourth place finishes), and she couldn't even attempt to compete for the lone Nagano Olympic spot at Europeans.

    I'm slightly surprised that Wells/Lyons didn't at least try in 1999 for the U.S. title (not to mention there being 3 Worlds spots available, due in part to their 10th place finish at 1998 Worlds).
     
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  7. N_Halifax

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    Who can forget Yulia Vorobieva's country and western free skate from the 1996 Worlds in Alberta? You want to talk voidy... THAT needs to go on YouTube.

    There IS this though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHzxHrLF-6A
     
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  8. coppertop1

    coppertop1 Active Member

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    I do remember that LP from Yulia. What does voidy mean? What show/competition performance you linked from was that from?
     
  9. moebius

    moebius Well-Known Member

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    Natalia Romaniuta/Daniil Barantsev (RUS) Lots of success on the junior circuit. Natalia quit and Daniil teamed up with Jennifer Wester and skated at the US Nationals in 2007 (?)

    Jessica Joseph/Charles Butler (US) Wasn't a big fan of them, but they represented the US in the 98 Olympics. I wonder why they received a lot of support from the USFSA. They skated like a juniorish pair, very stiff and awkward. They were World Junior champions, but that doesn't mean that they are more superior than some of the other pairs that they placed above.

    Fedor Andreev (CAN) What can I say I about this hot skater?
     
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    If Wikipedia can be trusted, Szwed retired after the 1997-1998 season. She coaches and choreographs in Detroit and is married to the former US pair skater Aaron Parchem.
     
  11. coppertop1

    coppertop1 Active Member

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    I remember Fedor Andreev. a very talented skater. Unfortunately, got lost in the shuffle of strong men skaters.
     
  12. blue_idealist

    blue_idealist Well-Known Member

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    I liked her and also enjoyed her performance as Snow White in Disney on Ice.
     
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    Speaking of them, Amber Corwin was also pleasant to watch.. and by them I mean American ladies from that era lol.
     
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    Jot the Dot Dot Headstrong Buzzard

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  15. NadineWhite

    NadineWhite Well-Known Member

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    I enjoy(ed) reading this thread, brought back a lot of good memories. :) The mention of Jessica Mills immediately reminded me of her sister, Phoebe Mills, whom was the only American female gymnast to win an Olympic Medal of any kind in 1988 (bronze on beam). Also the mention of Ludmila Nelidina brought to mind a favorite skater, Yoshie Onda, of Japan, as well as Yukari Nakano. Yoshie always skated with joy; in that way she reminds me of Rachael Flatt. And Yukari became the 3rd woman in history to land a 3axel at the same SA competition that Ludmila landed hers at (one right after the other, what a night!). I recall writing to her about this exceptional feat (which happened on my birthday btw) and she wrote me back. :cool: Ahhh, I often wonder what might have been when it came to Ludmila (hers was fully rotated, perfection). She was light on her feet and a vision in pink, built like a ballerina...

    ps: lol also I cannot forget Laurent Tobel. :D
     
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  16. SamuraiK

    SamuraiK Well-Known Member

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    I loved Davydov.

    I must nominate Clemens Brummer from Germany. Competed at Euros in 2008 and 2009 with lovely programs on both ocassions

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlacbJrmBFA

    In dance Mallory & Rand from Estonia, had lots of potential, but unfortunately they retired and we got stucck with his younger zzz brother ..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlacbJrmBFA
     
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  17. once_upon

    once_upon Yes, I will have some cheese with that wine

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    Yes. My comparison with Andrea and Angela was that they both worked very hard, skated like it was a joy to do that, and that they were nice to everyone.
    I loved that era of skating too
     
  18. VIETgrlTerifa

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    Yamato Tamura.

    I always thought he was very handsome and I loved his style. He was like a precursor to Daisuke Takahashi. I remember one competition where he changed his hair color in-between the SP and LP to make it in character. I thought that was so bad-ass.

    Not the best performance but probably the cleanest looking video I found of his:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqr9sNB8V8M

    Less quality, but better performance:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qX6-DrBZFA

    Oh, it was the 2001 NHK Trophy. Compare his hair in the Carmen SP above and this:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QGf_JumVws
     
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  19. essence_of_soy

    essence_of_soy Well-Known Member

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    I am really enjoying this thread.

    Not only is it nice to recognize and appreciate some of the more obscure skaters and teams, it is fun to discover new ones in the process as well.
     
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  20. essence_of_soy

    essence_of_soy Well-Known Member

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    I remember that too. It kind of reminded me of Stripe, from the movie Gremlins.

    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-UAHMsLQwK...lk9zJ0WA/s1600/Gizmo+Gremlin+and+Stripe+B.jpg
     
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  21. bardtoob

    bardtoob Well-Known Member

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    I didn't forget her because ... everyone seems to forget she was the last Soviet Champion, not Russian Champion, but Soviet Champion while Maria Butyrskaya was only 3rd at that competition, but she chose to compete for Azerbaijan, which did not help her career.
     
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  22. coppertop1

    coppertop1 Active Member

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    Interesting bit of trivia. Though if she competed for Russia, she may have had a hard time getting out of the country with all the competition.
     
  23. essence_of_soy

    essence_of_soy Well-Known Member

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    Which makes me wonder if changing countries helps or hinders a skater's international success.

    One example off the top of my head is when Julia Soldatova switched from Russia to Belarus (and back again).
     
  24. rosewood

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    I think Yamato still has enthusiastic fans in Japan. He skates in Arakawa's Friends on Ice every year. He works as a coach and a columnist as well. 

    ETA
    He works as one of the coaches of Satoko Miyahara. Here is an interview with Yamato, Satoko, and Nobu. http://www.jsports.co.jp/press/article/N2014030311463906.html
     
  25. made_in_canada

    made_in_canada INTJ

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    I had a picture of her and Karen Preston on my wall for a few years when I was a child. Came out of CFSA's Skater magazine :) At least that's what I think it was called.

    When Humphreys was in her heyday she happened to be in the arena while I was skating at a summer competition. I noticed her while I was doing my warm up. She then watched me fall hard on my head on a double loop in which I gave myself a very bad concussion and got two bobby pins stuck in my skull. I don't remember much from that competition but I distinctly remember the embarrassment of knowing I'd messed up badly in front of her.

    I also had a huge crush on Sebastian Britten. And Kevin Alves from Brazil after seeing him at Four Continents in 2009.
     
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  26. Marco

    Marco Missing Ziggy

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    Loved her. Loved her straight forward style and clean skating. Too bad she never got the harder jumps. I never saw her 2001 programs (or any skating from her other than the Light My Fire short and Rondo free skate). :cheer2: to the Danish MK!
     
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  27. Marco

    Marco Missing Ziggy

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    What also didn't help her career was her disinterested look when skating. She had very solid spinning ability though (if slightly uninteresting).
     
  28. bardtoob

    bardtoob Well-Known Member

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    Was that not true for every Soviet Era female skater ... Vodorezova, Ivanova, etc ... even Butyrskaya prior to 1998 was called this. None the less, Yulia Vorobieva (the name she can mostly be found under on YouTube) had a respectable 3F combo in the SP as early as the 1992 Olympics that she kept through 1998 Worlds and moved across the ice in a way more appealing to western eyes than Maria and Irina, although she was far less consistent.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Tx3gjA9RKI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwpCLbFuCFE
     
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  29. Marco

    Marco Missing Ziggy

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    I distinctly remember her skating to Aladdin in the short program at the Nagano Olympics and skated right through the music like it was nothing.

    Come to think of it, you are right, for the most part. The Ukranian ladies during that era for example, were known for their expressiveness as well as their flying camels. (perhaps Lavrenchuk wasn't that Ukranian...)
     
  30. DORISPULASKI

    DORISPULASKI Watching submarine races

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    Grethe Grünberg from Estonia, who with Kristjan Rand was the 2007 World Junior silver ice dance medalist. I was so impressed with this couple! An injury forced Grethe's early retirement. Rand later competed with Caitlin Mallory.
     
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