Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by haribobo, Dec 1, 2010.
Whose programs just make you go
Multiple choice allowed.
Why is Takahika Kozuka up there????
He has great musicality (when he's on)
Rachael's. The girl is so talented, but she is slow and it makes her boring to watch. Gachinski is just .
Good topic!! I pick flatt cuz I don't like the choreography, it's too cheesy, nobody would do well with it.
Kozuka's look is boring and I don't like his SP much. Great skater, yes. But I need more facial expression...
ETA: I hadn't watched his FS this season until I posted. Whoops. It's really good. He has improved a lot over last season.
I picked the Japanese skaters because a lot of them have everything but IT
I picked Miki, but not exactly because of her programs...
I forgot to vote for Mroz. Oh well.
I voted for miki(***), Rachael(****), and Agnes(**)!!
go watch some of Kozuka's exhibitions/galas. you'll see why i like him so much. :3
Gachinski and Flatt.
Artur has all the components to develop into a star- but bad choreography and charm- less OTT presentation stand on his way of gaining multitudes of fans.
Rachael- really improved this year; but that faux- 40ies image gotta go and she needs to explore different styles. Once again, choreography and "presentation training" seem to be the key.
I'll never understand how Kozuka can be considered boring A bit self- contained, yes ( and I like it) Boring- nooooo!
Is it because he takes his shirt off?
I don't think Imai needs an intervention. She just needs some maturing and refining.
Oh, help with their skating? 'Cause you know whose name I was looking for...
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But shit programs. Which is precisely the problem.
I'm a bit about Flatt coming out first. Her programs this season are way better than anything she's done in the past and she's clearly making loads of effort.
ITA. Flatt's playing to her strengths (character driven programs), skating her programs full out and getting her elements done. I'd think she the lady who least needs an intervention, she's doing the most with what she's got.
I voted for Mroz, he seems like an especially natural jumper, but his program just make me zzz.
Imai too: Her LP reminds of one of those obstacle course game shows, where shes waving her arms in every direction and trying to keep up with the frenetic music.
He should have kept the programs from last year
I voted Miki and Nobu, by the way.
Bring back Super Mario Brothers!
Flatt is at least trying, and frankly, she's improved.
Brandon Mroz on the other hand...his programs are coma-inducing. No style at all and his *dramatic* LP music just makes him look even slower. Plus, I can't stand all those silly little arm movements he makes.
I picked Ando, Oda and Rippon(!).
Rippon's presentation is very good this season.
But I just hope that he tones down a little and goes more simple.
Mroz, Flatt, Gachinsky.
The first, boring as hell.
The second, so old fashioned.
The last, it's not FS ! Reminds me too much of Plushenko. Too much posing, no transition.
I don't know ... but it seems that coach Tom Z. students need to develop their package. Both Brandon and Rachel can jump, but are sorely lacking in programs, refined edges, and the ability to reach an audience with personality. IDK if its the choreographer or they need an ice dance coach but somethings gotta change. They are both to good to not evolve!!
Adam. He is not a Rach stuff.
You mean he's not a Rach Star? I have to agree, I find his interpretation melodramatic
Where are Amodio and Fernandez?
How about we just say "all of Morozov's skaters"?
Not just a style intervention, but actually storming the barracks and freeing them!
Please let Agnes Zawadzki have the sense to change coaches after this season. This girl really has some good basics but needs better choreography and coaching. Maybe if I start praying to the skating gods now.........
Along with 'all of Tom Z's skaters'
Does the intervention have to be in re the technical aspect of their skating? How about those most in need of intervention psychologically ? - Czisny, Abbott
I hope Mroz doesn't take Michael Weiss' place as the "str8 one 2 hate".
Kozuka’s a bit introverted, similar to Jeremy, but Kozuka does have artistry and interpretation. Ex: his SP last yr, his LP this yr + his exhibition piece “Fallin.” Maybe he should get a better costume designer, so he doesn’t dress 10 yrs older than his real age.
And why Chan’s not included in the selection? If we compare Chan’s “Take Five” with that of Kozuka 2 yrs ago, then Kozuka’s skate actually looked like a jazz dance, while Chan never looked like he’s “dancing” with his stiff movements…
Love all skaters who show artistry
LOL Chan definitely fall into this category. Not exactly introverted, but more like scarycrow caught looking in the headlight. Not much personality for sure.
I would say Asada and Chan even though they aren't on the list. I don't get what is going on with those 2. No skater at Chan's level should have that many falls. Asada should be dominating this season instead she can barely skate.
Miki Ando, Brandon Mroz and Artur Gachinski...awful programs, those skaters, obviously, don't share my tastes !
Why isn't Kevin Reynolds on the list?
Actually, Kevin is getting better in terms of his presentation, so I think that there is an intervention in process. I was pleasantly surprised when I saw him at Skate Canada and really liked his exhibition piece. It is obvious that he is trying. However, the hair has got to go!
There's been concerns about Mao since she announced she was going to do a major jump rehaul in the off-season. And Chan? Isn't that how he usually skates?
Sandra Bezic is helping him this season. The LP music choice of OTWF doesn't help a skater as bland as Mroz. At least his costumes are somewhat better - No more onesies.
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