Skate America 2012

Discussion in 'Great Skate Debate' started by sk9tingfan, May 4, 2012.

  1. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    Yes, I think that's exactly it.
     
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  2. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

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    I feel the same.
    We can't question why the Western US keeps getting events, if other areas won't bid or support them!
     
  3. PinkFeathers

    PinkFeathers Active Member

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    WA fans will fill seats; they have proven this in the past. Not saying the east coast couldn't/wouldn't do the same, but they may be playing it safe after last year's sad, empty event :shuffle:
     
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  4. maatTheViking

    maatTheViking Now ubering Machida's hair

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    Ben Augusto lives in Seattle? I didn't know! I want to run into him :p

    also, being so close, I will definetly be going this year!
     
  5. Dee2e

    Dee2e Well-Known Member

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    Either East Coast clubs aren't doing a good job with bidding or bidding at all or someone at the USFS Headquarters just likes going to the West Coast.
     
  6. Debbie S

    Debbie S Well-Known Member

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    Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe clubs are involved in the awarding of SA, b/c it's an ISU event. I imagine that the volunteer base in an area might be considered, but I suspect it's almost entirely about cost and availability, plus the requirement that there has to be a Hilton nearby to serve as the host hotel. And if the USFSA keeps waiting until the spring before to choose the location, it's not surprising their options are limited.

    Actually, I don't think clubs are even involved in the awarding of Nats anymore. The past few years, it has seemed to be some sort of local tourism or sports/business group that handled the bid process and the event organization.
     
  7. Dee2e

    Dee2e Well-Known Member

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    Kent is 3133 miles for me! It might as well be in China!
     
  8. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    someone in the area has to be willing and make an effort to lobby for the event. Maybe it's the clubs, maybe it's the local tourism bureau, but no one is going to award a competition to a city that hasn't shown that they are ready for it and interested.

    I was under the impression that the USFSA has been delaying the announcements because of the lack of options, not the other way around.
     
  9. SkateFan66

    SkateFan66 Active Member

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    For me, it does not matter if it is East Coast or West Coast. I live in the deep South; therefore, I know that if I want to attend skating events (competition or exhibition) I have to travel long distance.
     
  10. sk9tingfan

    sk9tingfan Well-Known Member

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    This is going far beyond local clubs stepping up. It's the kowtowing/pandering of Gregoire that's in play here.
     
  11. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

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    It's 2700 miles away for me.
    That won't deter me, if I can work out the details.
     
  12. UMBS Go Blue

    UMBS Go Blue KWEEN 2016! YES WE KWAN!

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    I HAVE FIRST DIBS ON LADYNIT'S AND/OR GENEVIEVE'S SOFA, YO :saint: :p
     
  13. Debbie S

    Debbie S Well-Known Member

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    True, and the USFSA needs to ask themselves why there are so few volunteers. As I understand it, they have a lot of financial requirements for would-be bidders. Skating events are no longer selling out arenas. The USFSA needs to recognize that and reexamine its assumptions about its event planning process.
     
  14. dinakt

    dinakt Well-Known Member

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    That's a bit of a heartbreak for me; I really was hoping to go, but Washington state is just too far. Hello icenetwork.
     
  15. Sylvia

    Sylvia On to Nationals!

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    From the 2012 Skate America Bid Information (PDF) document posted on the USFS site:
     
  16. maatTheViking

    maatTheViking Now ubering Machida's hair

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    Maybe they are trying to lobby for events like this on a state/county level to make the proposed/planned/questioned new hockey/basketball arena more attactive (Big Seattle Drama about how to get NBA back, and get NHL in town - and who foots the arena bill)
     
  17. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    :rofl: PML!
     
  18. manhn

    manhn Well-Known Member

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    Ooh, there is an outdoor mall nearby!
     
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  19. Lutzcy

    Lutzcy Active Member

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    Well, at least for those of us in the Midwest, Skate Canada is essentially in Detroit. It's only a 5 hour drive for me, so I'm going to Windsor, Ontario. Wheee. Already have my ticket.:encore:
     
  20. manhn

    manhn Well-Known Member

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    Worlds and Canadian nats are essentially in Detroit too.
     
  21. legaleagle88

    legaleagle88 New Member

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    I'm excited, but am starting to feel guilty about all the events on the West Coast lately. :/ Seattle is one of my favorite cities, though, so I'm excited! (Though I know the even is not actually in Seattle proper.)
     
  22. Marge_Simpson

    Marge_Simpson Well-Known Member

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    Now the New yorkers can start organizing our "Not Going to SA" get-together. ;)
     
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  23. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    perhaps you could have it in Lake Placid ;)
     
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  24. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

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    Much as I'd like to go to Lake Placid for an event. it has been prohibitive from where I am.
    At least I can get to Kent/Seattle!
     
  25. numbers123

    numbers123 Well-Known Member

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    The likely scenario is not kowtowing/pandering but the financial logistics of everything. Like it or not, figure skating does not draw the crowds in anymore. The large arenas are too expensive given the need to secure/pay for the time, disrupting other more viable (i.e. revenue generating) sports schedules in addition to the area's volunteer base.

    Face it, it costs mega bucks to put on and host an event. The ISU and USFSA will be looking for ways to still put on the event and make it either break even or make money. They need that in their coffers.

    And sk9tingfan, I believe it was you who complained about the "jacking up" or hotel costs once someone got wind of the ability to make money in Omaha. Did you do cost comparisons with the type of room available or anything else? There are also hotels/inns within 1 mile or slightly more that are less than $109 per night. Some even $79.00 a night. I know - I did a search for the dates of the event and downtown hotels/motels.
     
  26. jamesy

    jamesy wind up merchant

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    And my attendance will be a "con" to counteract that? :EVILLE:
     
  27. UMBS Go Blue

    UMBS Go Blue KWEEN 2016! YES WE KWAN!

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    Could be a "pro" for Beefy if you bend over for him. :EVILLE:
     
  28. rfisher

    rfisher Satisfied skating fan

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    I like events in the EST zone because they are most convenient for me to watch. DON'T YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT'S ALL ABOUT ME! :drama: Now, I'll have to stay up past midnight. :drama: :drama:
     
  29. AJ Skatefan

    AJ Skatefan Well-Known Member

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    YES!!!!!!
    I've been to this arena for hockey games and it's a tiny but very nice arena. Both times I was there I was thinking that it would be PERFECT for Skate America. There's a very nice mall right next door that will be great for restaurant breaks. I'm so psyched!
     
  30. manhn

    manhn Well-Known Member

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