I dont intend this thread to be a re-hash of complaints about specific skaters, but rather to look at what could or should be done to change the judging parameters [if anything]. [So please let's not talk about specific skaters, but rather the judging system in general]. Another poster on another thread said the problem was falls need to be more severely penalized. I agree with this. Another poster said multiple falls should increase the penalty on each successive fall. This is an interesting idea. My own suggestion is to keep the -1 penalty for each fall, but to include an automatic downgrade on the jump. What I mean is this - if a skater falls on a quad, and the caller calls it as a quad, it is downgraded to a triple because of the fall. If the caller calls it as a triple, it gets downgraded to a double, etc. Does anyone have any thoughts?