Sets in the City - Tennis 2012 III

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  1. hydro

    hydro Well-Known Member

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    Li Na :cheer2: Couldn't ask for a better result!

    Sharapova, 2-6, 2-6 :lol:
  2. duane

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    Excellent performance by Li. She never looked back from the first point.
  3. mrinalini

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    And Li Na makes it into the final! My bet is still on Azarenka if she makes it past Stephens; if Stephens makes it through, it's anyone's guess...

    Strange how Maria looked ill at ease throughout today's match - you'd think with the H2H against Li so stacked in her favour that'd she feel more comfortable.
  4. FSfan107

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    Poor Maria, she didn't have her game tonight. :(

    Congrats to Li Na! I quite enjoy watching her tennis as well and she was definitely terrific tonight.

    Now I need to start praying for Roger against Murray tomorrow. ;)
  5. judgejudy27

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    A Na-Azarenka final is 50/50 if it happens IMO. I wouldnt be surprised with either outcome. Their h2H history is pretty mixed. One thing about the matchup though is Na will probably win or lose the match. There is no question she has the bigger game of the two, but Azarenka has the steadier one.
  6. BigB08822

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    And Sharapova did just what I said she has done so many times. Stormed her way through the draw to drop to her first real test. That is embarrassing to go through 5 rounds only losing 9 games and then you lose 2-6 2-6? Ouch.
  7. Alex Forrest

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    Li Na is FIERCE. I am not surprised she kicked Screamer's bony butt. I want Stephens to make the final. Please let it happen. We'd have a rather quiet non-screaming final, always a good thing...
  8. orientalplane

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    Wow, Djokovic is slaughtering Ferrer in their semi-final.
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    Ah, the first bit I did not know; the second I am most assuredly aware of. ;)
  10. duane

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    I say do away with the injury timeout. It is abused too often (like Vika's convenient 10 minute injury timeout after being broken when serving for the match). If a player is injured, deal with it or forfeit the match.
  11. oleada

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    I think Vika being singled out for it is very annoying. Is it unsportsmanlike? Probably. But the medical personnel made the ultimate call so they kust have felt it was necessary. So many players -including Nadal and Djokovic - that singling her out just makes ne think the media needs a story now that all the americans aee out.
  12. judgejudy27

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    It is possible the media, fans, and journalists want Na to win the final so they are looking for an excuse to turn unfairly and to an otherwise unjustifiable extreme against Azarenka in the final. Who knows.
  13. my little pony

    my little pony snarking for AZE

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    ita, so many players do it. the morons on espn act like she's the first who ever did it.
  14. hydro

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    But did she do it over anxiety/breathing problems or a physical injury? Because if it's the former, that's technically not allowed under the rules.

    Either way, I don't think it's as big of a deal as people are making it out to be.
  15. duane

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    LOL! I was simply voicing my personal opinion. I didn't know it had become such a big story! Here's one:

    THE world's top player Victoria Azarenka last night declined to apologize to rising star Sloane Stephens after taking a questionable injury time-out at a crucial time in their Australian Open semi-final.
    Azarenka is a vastly more experienced player than 19-year-old Stephens - 29 grand slam appearances to seven.

    But she denied gamesmanship of any type by asking for medical help for a breathing problem in the middle of a clutch of match points.

    Azarenka is trying to defend both her Australian Open title and the No 1 world ranking.

    But the 23-year-old did agree her timing was unfortunate as it came after she had failed to convert five match points in the tenth game of the second set when leading 5-4.

    "The timing, yeah, it was bad," Azarenka said. "The game before that when I lost my service, it kept getting worse," she said.

    "I thought I would have to play through it and keep calm. But it just got worse. I had to do it.

    "I had to unlock my rib, which was causing my back problem. You know, the (WTA) trainer said, 'We have to go off court to treat that'. I just didn't really want to take off my dress on the court."

    In two post-match interviews by broadcast rights holders Seven Network and ESPN, Azarenka mentioned how she felt overwhelmed by nerves. She did not mention her back, which led critics to imply she had taken the medical time-out as a ploy to distract Stephens.

    In the next game, Stephens served to try to stay in the match. But on Azarenka's sixth match point the young American netted a backhand and it was all over 6-1 6-4.

    Wearing a T-shirt bearing the slogan "Kiss My Fast" in the post-match press conference, Azarenka said the discrepancy in her answers came down to a "simple misunderstanding".

    "You know what, I think I just really misunderstood what she asked me because the question was 'I had few difficulties' and why I went off. I completely thought of a different thing," she said.

    Azarenka did say she should have sought medical attention earlier in the set. But she did not feel the need to apologise to Stephens.

    "Apology? I don't know if that's apology. For the timing, I cannot be in control how long it takes to fix my injury," she said.

    "As I said, they wanted to take two medical time-outs, for the knee and for that. But I wanted to take one because I wanted to go back on court."

    Azarenka had been hopping along the baseline in the third game of the second set after running hard to retrieve a Stephens shot. She limped on it again two games later but did not call for the WTA trainer or doctor.

    For her part Stephens, who had beaten Serena Williams in Wednesday's quarter-final, said she was not affected by the time-out and didn't really care what the reasons were for it.

    "It's happened to me before. If it was one of my friends, I would say, 'Oh my God, that sounds like a PP', which is a personal problem," Stephens said. "Other than that, it's just unfortunate."

    Stephens' coach David Nainkin was more direct.

    "I thought it was very unfair, cheating within the rules," he told newspaper USA Today."It was unsportsmanlike.

    Nainkin said the rules needed to be changed if authorities found Azarenka's actions legitimate.

    "Sloane sat out there for 10 minutes while someone saves match points," he said. "It's momentum swings. That's part of the sport. You have 90 seconds on the changeover and you have to deal with what just happened. That's tennis. She had 10 minutes to go inside and regroup. It's not fair."
    The pair, who share manager John Tobias, had not spoken since all the drama unfolded, Stephens said. It was the first time they had met in a WTA match.

    "But I'm sure I'll see her," Stephens said. "Of course, I love Vikka and we share the same agent. We actually are pretty good friends. I'm sure I'll see her and we'll talk about it."

    The Florida teenager did remark that she found it strange that "a breathing problem" should be used for a time-out.

    "You just get an oxygen tank or something. I don't know. You got to figure it out," she said smiling, before adding: "I hope she wins the final, so I hope if that's the case she should figure it out."
  16. my little pony

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    i dont think her time out was permissible under the rules either. but i dont think she's the first player to do it.

    i wonder how much the US commentators would care if it was an american who did it.
  17. duane

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    I totally agree that many players have abused the rule, which is why I say get rid of it.
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    Interesting that during the Sharapova/Li Na match, the commentators mentioned that it was a battle of the two women are currently making the most money from endorsements.

    Given the fact she has only won one GS title almost two years ago, I was surprised that she has that many endorsements. I guess it's a reflection of the times and shows how badly some of these companies want to get into the Chinese market.
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    She is the only successful Chinese tennis player and China is a land of billions of people. Of course there is tons of money to be made for her, probably even if she never won a GS but was just consistently a top player. Not as much, of course, but I bet she would have still made a lot.
  20. topaz

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    I agree. I'm giving Vika the benefit of the doubt. She's been in other emotional matches and has not don't this. I think she really may have started to feel anxiety. I will not doubt a person who fainted/passed out on a court before. Vika has issues with HEAT as 2010 USO.

    Vika did not do this in the Jamie Hampton match a few days ago. She did not do this in her matches last season at the FO, Wimbledon or USO, so why would she do this now if folks beleive she's such a poor sport.

    Regarding Rafa, it's pretty obvious that Rafa's knee issues were and are serious. His body will not be able to take the punishment of his game for more than 2 or 3 years, imo.
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    The Federer vs. Murray match is incredible!!! Now in the fourth set . . .
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    :( As a huge Fed fan, I was obviously rooting for Roger. Good fight by him even though he wasn't playing his best tennis. Great play by Murray. Hope the Murray vs. Djokovic final is great. Pulling for Murray.
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    I think Wimbledon is going to be Fed's best chance at another GS - Murray just hung tough after that lose of the 4th set and didn't get down as he has in past years. There is no doubt in my mind that the best thing Murray has done during his playing career was making that phone call to Ivan Lendl - it has transformed him both as a player and a person. He has truely grown up in the past 12 months and could win a handful of GS's in the next few years!!

    I think Nadal will never be the player he was and though he could have a couple more French Opens in him I suspect he will not be in the mix for any other GS's - the knee injury is recurring too often. And even though I love Federer I think he will only be in the mix for Wimbledon and maybe only this year as even though he is remarkably fit he is 31 which is old for a top flight tennis player.

    The dominating rivalry in the mens game for the next few years could be Novak and Andy - let's hope the match on Sunday is as entertaining as their US Open match final!!
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  25. FSfan107

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    Yep, I know Wimbledon is where Roger has the best shot at adding more GS titles. I'm crossing my fingers he can win another U.S. Open or Australian Open though it will be undoubtedly difficult.
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  26. duane

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    Roger had 43 winners to 60 UFEs, only 6 aces, and had 6 break opportunities. Andy had 62 winners to 47 UFEs, 21 aces, and had 16 break opportunities. Surely with these numbers it was a quick straight-set win for Andy, right? NO, it was a 5-setter! Andy beat Roger for the first time at a slam, but there are concerns.

    And I disagree that Wimbledon is the only slam where Roger will be in the mix. He had a much more difficult draw at the AO, and made it to the semis. The only player to beat him in the past 2 years at the USO has been Novak, and Nadal has been his main RG nemesis. Roger will continue to be in the mix at all the slams, and the draw will be a huge factor for him as well as for Novak, Nadal, and Murray.
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    Sad to see Roger lose. :( Will always love the style he plays with, but he is unfortunately probably in the twilight of his career.
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    Agreed. I know Vika has faced her share if criticism for withdrawals and medical timeouts but I can't help recall the time where she probably should have called a trainer and instead collapsed on the court.

    I'm looking forward to this final- slightly pulling for Vika but really would be happy with either player winning!

    And yay for Murray!!
  29. duane

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    Perhaps because unlike the previous matches, Vika failed to convert on FIVE match points before being broken by Sloane. It was the first and only time in the match where momentum was on Sloane's side.
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    Great semi-final between Murray and Federer. Sadly I think Roger's best days are behind him but that's not to take anything away from Murray who played a terrific match. If I were a betting woman, my money would be on Novak to win on Sunday, but it's the same line up as the last slam and Murray surprised him there.

    I'll be cheering for Andy anyway! :cheer2:
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    Vika faces a tougher match against Hampton and didn't call a medical time out. Hampton broke Vika for a 5-4 lead in the 2nd. Vika didn't convert the break points she had and lost the set. Vika WAS in trouble in the Hampton match. She was a down a break in the 3rd set too. Vika played better and Hampton's injury inhibited her somewhat in the 3rd set.

    My point was to state, Vika has played in MORE pressured, emotional matches than the Stephens match and HAS not done this before. As I stated before, for a player who has passed out on the court before, having her state she couldn't breate and felt anxiety is an illegimate response to ask for a medical time out. Vika has a history of medical issues in hot conditions. The temp on the court was over 100 F and no one is mentioning this.
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    I'm so happy for Murray. I think he'll beat Novak D.
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    My point is that the two are totally different situations. Vika had MATCH points against Sloane in that critical game. One conversion and the match is over, but she failed FIVE times. A huge difference between failing to convert break points. And yes, she was in trouble against Hampton, but it seemed she was biding her time because it was obvious Hampton was injured. Sloane wasn't, and seemed ready to pounce as she had against Serena.

    And, the Sloane match was a HIGHLY pressured, emotional match, perhaps one of the most Vika has faced. She's trying to defend the one slam title she has, the #1 ranking was at stake (and still is if she doesn't win the title), and with both Serena and Maria out, she became THE clear favorite. That is SERIOUS pressure!
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    15 year old (as of last month!) Ana Konjuh of Croatia takes the girls' title - future star?
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    Did any of you following things know there was also Para/Wheelchair Competition at this year's Aussie Open? I didn't until a few minutes when checking Twitter and seeing the retweets by the IPC and seeing Tweets by the winner of the Ladies event and a Tweet by one of the guys who got to hit practice balls w/Novak this morning. Good on Novak and it was hard to tell who had the bigger grin on their faces. :)

    OMG!! Darren Cahill's one heck of a good sport and also a standup guy to boot. Last year he and Andy's Mom made a bet. When Andy made the Aussie Open Final, Darren would wear a kilt. He just walked onto ESPN's set w/it on. Doesn't look half bad on him either.

    Not sure who will win this, but I've always had a soft spot for Li Na, so I'd love it for her to win another GS.

    That Murray/Federer match last night/yesterday morning was out of this World!! BTW, how fitting Andy made the Aussie Final on Robbie Burns Day? Awesome match and I think he's going to give Novak a run for his money tomorrow. Will be rooting for Andy, but I love Novak too, so will be happy regardless. :)

    Now....C'mon Ladies....Let's get this Party started!!

    Oh....And Happy Australia Day to our FSU Aussie Members!!!
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    Li turned her left ankle, which is now being taped.

    ETA: I know almost nothing about tennis but I think Li is going to win this one.

    ETA2: Or not.
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  37. UMBS Go Blue

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    So if the Li Na injury break wasn't dramatic enough, now there are Australia Day fireworks next door posing an even longer, but totally voidy, interruption to the match. :inavoid:

    Happy Australia Day, mates! :40beers:
  38. AragornElessar

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    But at least they knew that was coming.

    NO!!! And it looks like it's the other ankle/leg this time...
  39. UMBS Go Blue

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    AND she hit her head on the court falling down. Wow. :fragile:
  40. AragornElessar

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    Yes Chrissie, you're right. This is one crazy GS Final. This is just unreal!!!