Sets in the City - Tennis 2012 III

Discussion in 'Other Sports' started by Loves_Shizuka, Sep 13, 2012.

  1. AnnieD

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    I'm over the moon for Andy too! I could barely watch yesterday I was so nervous for him. Everyone here is so proud of him, when I went out shopping this morning it was all everyone was talking about in the shops - I still can't believe we've got a Scottish Wimbledon Champion!
  2. Seerek

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    If only Andy Murray had better results on clay, he'd be contesting for year end #1 with good results in hardcourts, indoors and World Tour Finals - as it is, #2 seed at US Open is pretty much a lock with the win at Wimbledon yesterday (unless Rafael Nadal can somehow win both Montreal and Cincinnati).
  3. topaz

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    Didn't get a chance to post yesterday. But Andy's win is one of the best moments in recent sports history. This is why I love tennis, it creates historical and emotional moments like no other sport.

    I teared up a little and the atmosphere on the court, on grounds, near Tower Bridge and in Andy's home town were incredible, ie. the crowd standing up during the change overs, Lendl standing up in the players box with the score 5-4 in the 3rd set, Lendl looking almost to tears, and of course Andy!!

    On another notes, I DVR'ed the match. At the beginning of the match, BBC ran a fluff piece narrated by Clive Owen called "Meant To Be". I'll see if I can record it and upload it. It was MARVELOUS!!!!!
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  4. skatesindreams

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    Happy celebrants at the Wimbledon ball:
    http://tennis.si.com/2013/07/08/photos-andy-murray-marion-bartoli-wimbledon-ball/

    Estimated earnings windfall for Andy should top 20 million GBP per year, beyond his prize money:
    http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/08/new...aign=Feed: rss/money_topstories (Top Stories)

    I would love to see that.
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  5. Lorac

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    I also think it was a good match as well - I was surprised to see some on here were disappointed with it but I guess they wanted to see a 5 setter. I was so nervous when he came to serve for the match and lost the 3 championship points - how he hold his nerve to fight off the 3 break points was gruelling to watch so I can't even imagine what it was like to play them!!

    Every single paper here in the UK had Andy on the front cover as well as souvenir editions etc. Poor guy only got 1 hours sleep last night what with the press then the ball and then the TV interviews today and the visit to Downing Street - he must be exhausted!!
  6. topaz

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    Marion looked great!

    Seeing Ivan in a tux with Andy. Lendl is in my top 5 favorite players of all time.


    Did anyone see the WTA Loves 40 presentation. 17 of the 21 #1 players of the WTA got together.

    http://tennis.si.com/2013/07/01/photos-wta-40-serena-williams-maria-sharapova-jennifer-capriati/

    LOOK AT DINARA SAFINA....http://siusopen.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/wta6.jpg?w=610&h=495

    Monica looks good too.
  7. skatesindreams

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    I had rarely seen Andy play with such determination and resolve.
    Even when he was behind, you knew that he could - and would - do what was needed to win,
  8. aftershocks

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    :rofl: Unbelievable!

    I'm way behind cuz I don't currently get ESPN, and I'd need the right tv cable/ digital provider in order to get ESPN360 tennis coverage online. I did catch the encore of women's and men's finals on ABC's weak limited network coverage on Saturday and Sunday. Needless to say I'm pissed that I couldn't watch live finals and semifinals.

    Bartoli had been there before and she knew she was lucky to be there again. No butterflies, just pure determination. Kudos! Although she didn't even mention Monica Seles during the award ceremony, Domshabfan. :D Lisicki, now that she has a taste of a Wimbledon final, will surely make it back there.

    Surprised that Djokovic didn't extend the men's final to four or five sets, but I guess he was depleted from the Del Po match and also knew he was up against not only Murray, but the entire United Kingdom in addition to the murderous on court heat.


    ETA: The men's final did not have the kind of edge of your seat tension and excitement that five-setters have, and that last year's final had of course. The heat made it hard for both players, but having got there again by the skin of his teeth, Murray did not have plans to lose this one. There were some exciting moments during the match. The final game was a nail biter with Nole giving Murray a bit more of a run for his money. As a Lendl fan, I was quite happy for Lendl too in the final moments of the match. Its a great story Lendl teaming up with Andy and helping Andy slough off 77 years of drought in becoming a British Wimbledon champion and a Grand Slam champion, but moreover helping Andy win the championship that eluded him during his illustrious career.
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  9. duane

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    Very few players stand in Murray's way at Wimbledon, USO, and the AO, but a HOST of them stand in his way at RG. I think that even with a draw without the names Nadal, Djokovic, or Federer, the possibility of Murray winning or making the finals of RG is extremely small.

    But, I still don't understand why Andy's game doesn't translate well on clay. It seems taylor-made for the surface.
  10. nuge

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    Yes he must have been exhausted but he certainly didn't look it :)He's fit as a fiddle :D
    I did feel a little sorry for him though .He did a lot of interviews yesterday answering the same questions over and over again .I really liked his interview with Holly Willoughby and The One Show.
    Maybe he'll take a holiday now .
  11. Lorac

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    Agreed - his response to Willoughby was funny - 'Why would I tell you I've only known you for 10 minutes' :rofl: - upon being asked for the umpteenth time when he was going to propose to Kim. That and should he be knighted for winning Wimbledon - for goodness sake he is only 26 let him get that reward at the end of his career otherwise there will be no way to reward him for (hopefully) winning more slams and hopefully another Wimbledon or 2!!
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    His movement doesn't translate well to clay, for whatever reason. In the build-up to this year's clay season much was made about how he and Lendl were making adjustments, adapting his game, but in the end he was IMO wise to skip RG. I agree, even if Nadal's years of clay dominance are at an end, there are at least 5-6 other guys who would hold an edge over Murray on dirt.
  13. Seerek

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    It comes down to lack of natural slide on the surface that Andy hasn't yet figured out. Also, his use of drop shots and slices throughout the rallies doesn't work as effectively on clay vs. grass or even hard-courts.
  14. nuge

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    That and should he be knighted for winning Wimbledon - for goodness sake he is only 26 let him get that reward at the end of his career otherwise there will be no way to reward him for (hopefully) winning more slams and hopefully another Wimbledon or 2!![/QUOTE]

    Do you not think if Bradley Wiggins got a knighthhood for TDF and olympic gold Andy's achievements are similar ?
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    Wiggins got his after not just the TDF & 2012 OGM, but a ten year pro career that included 6 world championship titles, and 1 other OGM in 2004 and 2 in 2008. I see it more as a honour for all his achivements that have done a huge amount to raise the profile of cycling in this country. Given that he's now said he might never do the Tour again, it's a fitting cap on his career. Likewise, it would be more appropriate for Andy to receive a knighthood towards the end of his career too, not just for winning one tournament.
  16. nuge

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    I didn't know Bradley's career achievements so I can see why now.I'd never even heard of him before the olympics :shuffle:
  17. Lorac

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    Agreed. However I think the Prime Minister himself has suggested Andy get a knighthood which I'm sure was said in the heat of the moment after the win on Sunday but I wouldn't be surprised if people are now regretting those comments. As one of the sports pages said today - not sure which one - it could make life really difficult for Andy on tour if the organisers of each event decided to refer to him as Sir Andy prior to each match. Also Andy himself might not want to Knighthood now - but if he declined (and he could) would it be re-offered (I suspect it would). The comments by one are all are a gut reaction to the Wimbledon win - no doubt in my mind he will eventually be offered a knighthood but not juts yet - as I said let it be a reflection on his entire career as many of the other knighthoods have been.
  18. Domshabfan

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    Wrong thread
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  19. orientalplane

    orientalplane Mad for mangelwurzels

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    Domshabfan, you're in the wrong thread. :)
  20. Domshabfan

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    haha, my bad...
  21. nuge

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    When does Andy play next ?
  22. Yehudi

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    Probably Rogers Cup in Canada in early August.
  23. nuge

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    Thank's :)
  24. orientalplane

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    Hasn't it been renamed Andy's Cup? ;)
  25. ioana

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    Whee, all-Romanian semifinal tomorrow when Halep and Cadantu will play each other in Budapest. Not sure when (if ever) that happened last time in a WTA tournament :cheer2:.
  26. Sylvia

    Sylvia Whee, summer club comps!

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  27. duane

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    Wow, that's surprising about Maria splitting with her coach.

    I hope the next player to do so is Roger. ;)
  28. BigB08822

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    I didn't realize that Sharapova has a career Slam. I knew she only won a few Slams but the 4 she won are 1 on each of the 4 surfaces. Interesting.
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    Jimmy Connors will be Maria's new coach, apparently.
  30. Rottie

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    Whoa! That should be... interesting. Did Connors do much for Andy Roddick?
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    ^That's interesting.
  32. Yehudi

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    It helped for a bit in terms of getting Roddick out of a funk he was in and had him believing that he could beat Federer. I think Jimmys purpose may be to get Maria to not be scared of Serena.
  33. butyrskafanatic

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    Does anyone think Serena has a chance to overtake Graf as the female GOAT, and if not overtake Navratilova,Evert, and Court for 2nd place. Right now the best ever female players list is probably:

    1. Graf
    2. Navratilova
    3. Court
    4. Evert
    5. Serena

    How far up can Serena move?
  34. BigB08822

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    Are you mainly referring to the amount of Slams won to decide your rankings? I don't think Graf should be #1, her Slam count is high because Seles was out of the picture for so many years. I know there is no way to know how many Slams Seles may have won but I think almost everyone agrees she would have won quite a few between the stabbing and when she came back in 1996. Graf was great and deserves to be up there but I don't think she is top 2.

    Anyway, yes, I do think Serena can move up in the rankings (if we are talking about Slam totals). She has looked so good this year and I truly think Wimbledon was just a blip. Grass is so unforgiving and anyone is able to beat anyone on it, it seems. I think back to all the Slams and it seems to me that Wimbledon is home to the most major upsets and crazy underdog victories.
  35. butyrskafanatic

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    Most people see Graf as #1. Tennis Channel ranked her #1, so did Tennis Magazine, so does Steve Flink, so do most international tennis polls, so does Virginia Wade and most of the BBC tennis team. The only one who has a case being before her is Navratilova, so #2 is the absolute worst anyone logical could have her, but most have Graf #1 over even her.

    If you have her outside top 2 who would you have over her besides Navratilova (who I assume would be 1 of the 2 in that case). Would it be Serena already?

    The consensus top 10 women would be something like:

    1. Graf
    2. Navratilova
    3. Evert or Court
    5. Serena
    6. Wills or Lenglen
    8. King or Connolly
    10. Seles or Henin or Venus


    Although Serena might already be higher than that now. I hope she reaches #1 all time as she is my favorite player.
  36. duane

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    I don't think Connors helped Roddick all that much. Roddick was able to get that win over Federer at Miami, but I think it was more because Roger was physically spent (he had won 3 consecutive tournaments heading into Miami) than anything Connors did.

    I'm surprised that Maria chose him, and wonder what she expects to gain from him. I though Hogstedt was excellent for her, and made her more of an all-court player.
  37. BigB08822

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    I have Nav and Evert #1 and #2 followed by Graf.
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    Evert top 2 all time? She was great but prime to prime she would get spanked by Graf, Navratilova, Serena and even possibly Court, Seles, Venus, Henin. She still has to rank over Venus, Henin, and Seles, since her record is so much better but she probably also couldnt be that high since no matter how great her career is her ability to actually play tennis at the highest level is inferior to other greats. Navratilova beating her 13 times in a row at one point when Evert was still in her prime is testement to that. No matter how great Martina was at the time, it is hard to think of any other best ever contender who would get that owned by anyone in their primes.
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    I remember Navratilova saying Graf was the best of all time too... while Graf said Navratilova was, lol!

    1.graf
    2. navratilova
    3. court
    4. seles
    5. serena
    6. henin
    7. evert


    I would vote for Graf as #1. Seles would have won more slams in the future, but she and Steffi had some great battles for the titles Monica won, so I'm thinking some would have gone Steffi's way...and then Steffi had some big injury troubles (making the rise of Hingis possible so early) , so who knows what she could have done without her injuries... And remember, Steffi stopped when she hit 30 even though she had just made 2 finals, so it's reasonable to believe she may have won more if she hadn't lost her motivation.

    As for Serena, I'd say she's still not that close to Martina N or Steffi or Court. I would say she's around Monica. I would have loved to have seen an in her prime Monica vs. Serena just because the two of them would be like dogs fighting over a bone. I can't decide who would win in a battle of wills.
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    Roger Federer has switched to a larger racket head for Hamburg.