Scandal - Season Two Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by HeatherC, Nov 1, 2012.

  1. BaileyCatts

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    Okay, so I was wrong about Mellie faking her pregnancy .... but she totally set up that whole birth scenario and had the doctor induce her. :lol: She's a feckin' scheming brilliant genius though!
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    The show has revealed pretty much everything. I'm really curious to know where the writers are going to carry this show for the next season!
  3. cruisin

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    Can't believe she got the doctor to induce her. She was weeks early!
  4. HeatherC

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    This show blows my mind every single week. Great episode this week and I'm stoked to see where they go next! :biggrinbo
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    Of all the shocking things people have done on this show, this was pretty tame by comparison!

    So now Fitz knows. He's ostracized Olivia, and completely forgiven and re-bonded with Mellie (or has he). Oh, and killed Verna. So what does he have in store for Cyrus?

    I'm so glad Cyrus decided not to off James ... but the fact that he almost did is pretty damning. Their scene in the bedroom, though, was incredible -- just one more example of how amazing the writing and acting is in this show.
  6. cruisin

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    Yes, you make a good point!
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    Nearly a week later and I'm still shocked over that episode!

    That episode should have been called "How Far Do You Go?". I mean, Cyrus was seriously about to kill James!! Verna told Fitz about everything! Fitz killed Verna! And then the whole thing with Abby and stealing the card thing...and Harrison giving his gladiator speech...the way Fitz dismissed Liv...IT WAS TOO MUCH!!

    I am floored by this damn show! It's amazing!!
  8. cruisin

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    Pretty amazing that Fitz is being so high and mighty, then he kills Verna. An, I think he is using Mellie, he knows.

    Love this show. Almost as much as Revenge.
  9. BaileyCatts

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    That pretty much sums up what I was going to say but now ...... where the hell is the story gonna go?! :lol: The vote rigging story is dead (James won't testify and Abby has got the card), who shot the Prez story is dead and Verna is dead (literally), Fitz ain't gonna divorce Mellie ...... what they gonna do now?
  10. Artemis@BC

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    Well of course when this show started out there were no over-riding conspiracies in play (other than Olivia's affair), just the scandal-of-the-week. They can always go back to that format. It might seem a bit tame by comparison, but I think they could sustain it for a while at least. Esp. since there will be no-doubt some emotional stuff going on in the team.

    As for future "big stories," don't count out Hollis. He still hasn't gotten what he wanted politically, and I don't think a simple threat on his life will be enough to keep him down.

    And then there's Fitz. He's pissed, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him hatch a complicated revenge of his own.

    However it goes, these writers haven't disappointed me yet! :watch:
  11. HeatherC

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    What is up with Creepy McCreeperson???! :eek:

    Another great episode this week and holy emotional and intensely heated moment in the electrical room with Fitz and Olivia...WOW. :eek: :grope: :yikes:
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    In this house we are feeling very sorry for poor David Rosen, whom nothing good ever happens to. :lol:
  13. HeatherC

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    Oh I'm right there with you!! The poor guy has to get a win sometime soon, right?! :eek:
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    How come no one's talked about the latest episode?!

    I gotta say, frankly I didn't expect much from the show at season one's finale but now I find myself constantly mesmerized by this show. The whole cast is all kinds of awesomeness and the story-line is so unpredictable!

    And I looooooooooooooove seeing Henry from GA(Teddy's husband!):swoon: I hope the writers don't write him bad, though. He's just so dreamy!
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    Aaaaaahhh, that's where he's from! I kept telling Boyfriend all the way through that I MUST have seen him on DH or GA, but I couldn't remember which.
    I kinda miss Teddy. :shuffle: They haven't needed her at all but it still feels like her storyline ended so abruptly.
  16. BaileyCatts

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    :duh: THAT'S where I know him from. It was driving me crazy.

    But what's up him bugging up her apartment and spying on her for Fitz! Creepy creepy creppy with him sitting there watching her.

    And what exactly was his relationship to Fitz? Are they just friends?
  17. HeatherC

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    He did turn off the monitors when she started undressing though so I'm starting to think he's actually a nice guy who's just caught up in Fitz's weird stalking Olivia story. LOVE me some Scott Foley so I hope he's good! :swoon:
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    the ending of last episode was freaky.
    I have a feeling Jack is a psychopath.
  19. l'etoile

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    No, not a psychopath:( But he's very high up in the DOD. Wouldn't they be having those kinds of tests that prevent mentally dangerous people from being around?

    The series is getting better and better!
  20. cruisin

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    Yes, but they can slip through the cracks. And some psychopaths can present as pretty normal, until they're not.
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    I don't want him to be a psychopath (just watched last week's episode last night.) Olivia needs somebody on her side!

    Boy did I feel sorry for Lisa Edelstein's character.

    And I agree that this show is addictive. CJ used to be my Washington role model but she now has to share the limelight with Olivia.
  22. Artemis@BC

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    Yes!!

    And a good comparison not just because of the Washington subject matter but because the writing is very Sorkinesque in places.

    (I started re-watching The West Wing last weekend when I had the flu. That was a mistake, because now I have to watch the whole series. :cool: )

    But back to Scandal ... I really, really don't want Noel, oops I mean Jake to be a psycho. I'm choosing to interpret his mugging-to-the-camera look at the as being just an acknowledgment of how complicated and weird the situation has become. As for the thing with the journalist, that's a little tougher to justify. I don't condone violence no mater the rationale, but we've crossed that line ages ago. And it could be simply a matter of self-protection: Jake doesn't know the whole story about Olivia and Fitz, but he's smart enough to know that Fitz a. would not be cool with Jake associating with Olivia on any level and b. Fitz could easily destroy Jake if he wanted to.

    All good reasons to keep watching!
  23. BaileyCatts

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    Soooo what the hell?? :eek: Is Jake like a double-cross spy or something???

    The CIA Director really was innocent then, right?

    And :cheer2: if David Rosen is joining Olivia Pope & Associates! I like him and was hoping there would be a way to keep him on the show.

    And I like (LUVS) Huck an all, and can understand where he is coming from with the family watching thing, but its still kinda creepy, ya know?
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  24. PRlady

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    It looks like it. Damn. Because when he was wooing Olivia and trying to get her to forget the man who was making her sad, he was spot-on a great guy. :(

    This series walks the line between silly/unbelievable and "it just could happen" -- I hope they stay on the believable side of the line.
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    Say what you want about Mellie, but her dressing down of Fitz was spot on (and long overdue)!
  26. l'etoile

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    ^ Absolutely liberating! As much as I'd like not to like Mellie, there's something about her that draws you in. Bellamy Young's acting is so amazing.

    Anyway, me also no like-y how the writers are doing to Jake!!! He was so dreamy talking to Liv but at the end:mad:
  27. HeatherC

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    That was awesome! Definitely my favorite part of the episode last night. She nailed that perfectly. :respec:

    I don't want Jake to be bad either. I feel like there's so much more that we still don't know about him and especially what he's involved with so I'm going to go into my own little bubble where Jake is somehow still a good guy. It may be a lonely bubble but it's my happy place right now....lalalalala! :eek:

    David Rosen needs to have something good happen soon. I'd also love to see him join OPA but he doesn't trust Liv enough to be one of her Gladiators yet. If crap keeps hitting the fan though, I think he'll suddenly be all in with working for them! ;)

    Anyone else have major creep out vibes to see that the daughter cut off her own ear??! EWWWW! :yikes: It was good to see that Hollis has a heart though because I wasn't really sure about that fact earlier this year. Really nice job by Andrea Bowen who played the daughter (aka, Susan's daughter from Desperate Housewives). I thought she looked really familiar last night! :)
  28. kosjenka

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    I was thinking about Jake being a bad guy and now it seems they want us to think he really is.
    Somehow I have a feeling he truly has hots for Olivia. But then again - what normal guy wouldn't ;)
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    ^^ Got the feeling that Hollis' daughter "had" to choose the money. Possibly to get her boyfriend out of jail? But, I think there might be more to this story, down the road.

    Loved Mellie last night. In the past, she came across as cold and conniving. But, we saw her as a different person last night.

    Jake could go either way. But, there is something creepy about him. Wonder what happened with he and Fitz.
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    In the American government? :slinkaway

    One for Mellie against Fitz this episode. Go Mellie!!:revenge:
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    Mellie is one of those complicated characters I love on TV -- like Kate on Lost and Lady Mary on Downton Abbey, she's not necessarily likable but she's always interesting.
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    Jack has the creepiest smile.

    As far as Mellie goes - if I could play any character, it would be her. She had every eight to stand up to Fitz and call him out on all his shit.
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    I've seen several references to Mellie being a typical political Stepford wife. I think not! :lol:
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    It's been so long since the last episode, I forgot what actually happened to Olivia???

    And was I the only one :wuzrobbed at the end when Huck saw his son? I was beginning to think that "7-5-2" meant that Charlie killed his wife and son, and that was the time he found them dead. I'm glad that wasn't the reason.

    And damn I wish I could be like Mellie! :lol: Oh I know she's just a TV character and its all the actress (who deserves an Emmy in my book!), but there really are people out in the world like that who can look you in the eye and be all smiley and cheerful and yet at the same time be like "I'll cut u down beyotch if you even try to mess with me". Damn I wish I could do that.
  35. cruisin

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    Apparently Noel did too. He totally lied to Fitz.
  36. PRlady

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    Those kind of women make me want to reach for my switchblade because a) I could never ever be one of them and b) I've been damaged by that variety more than once. They are dangerous as hell. I agree the actress is fabulous.

    Does anyone else think that a guy who is president of the United States shouldn't keep saying he is nothing without the woman he loves? I'm all for romance and passion but it just seems....off. Surely he is something/someone without her even if he is miserably unhappy.
  37. BaileyCatts

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    Well yes, I do know what you mean about how dangerous they are, because I have come across many of them too. Really what I mean is its just that they can be so friendly and perky and everyone loves them, yet they can get away with anything, and I don't have the ability to deal with people like that. Generally, I'm a b---h. And I mean that in all its bad forms. My attitude and personality has gotten me into more trouble in my life than I care to think about. I just wish I knew how to act like that just because people like that can fit into any situation, get along with people even if they hate them (lawdy I cannot do THAT to save my life!!), be friendly and chipper and NICE all the time ... I just can't do that and I wish I could. So that's more of what I mean. But I completely understand what you are saying!
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    I've said more than once to professional friends that there are strong women who are tanks and others who are submarines, and I'm in the first category. I might run you over but you will see me coming, whereas with the submarine you don't know you've been torpedoed til you're sinking. Mellie is obviously the second category.

    But she's also wrong a lot, like doing that conference call in which (obviously!) a reporter was secretly listening in. Her political instincts are not nearly as good as Olivia's, so if she goes all wronged-wife on Fitz she will probably make it backfire.
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    That Seven-Fifty-Two episode was so sad. Poor Huck...now we know why he's so damaged. He was locked in a box for months. I thought for sure his family was killed but it's even more devastating that he had a wife and child and was unable to remember if it ever really happened. I always love the scenes with Liv and Huck. Their connection runs much deeper than anyone else's. She's the only one who can reach him and he was the only one who could reach her (after that last issue with Fitz). I love them...

    I was happy to get some Liv/Fitz action this episode. Those two have great on-screen chemistry and play their parts so well. It's one of the best stories with the "forbidden love" motif that I've seen in a while...

    Man, Mellie is playing hardball now! I knew it was a matter of time before she put her foot down but Fitz disappearing to be at Liv's side was the final nail in the coffin for her. She's pretty much got Fitz by the b*lls at this point! Lol!

    Cyrus...man. I love his character but he is a ruthless bastard! He protects Fitz's presidency at all costs b/c it affects his livelihood as Chief of Staff. We've already seen him kill someone to protect Fitz and he was two seconds from having James killed! Now in order to keep Mellie quiet he is considering having Olivia "taken care of." There is no depth that man won't sink to in order to keep his job!

    Fitz is going to call Mellie's bluff but I don't think she's playing any more...

    What's going to happen with Ballard (Noel)? I'm wondering what Fitz is going to do when he realizes how Liv really ended up in the hospital...if he finds out.

    I love this damn show! I can't wait to see what happens this week...
  40. Artemis@BC

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    Oh, I'm certain he will. From a story point of view, Cyrus needs Fitz to trust Cyrus and only Cyrus, and if he can't get rid of Olivia by killing her then he needs to drive a wedge between them. From a show point of view ... obviously Olivia can't be killed off, and it's unrealistic to think that she can be protected forever, so there needs to be a plausible alternative way to keep her and Fitz apart.

    However I do think there's something/someone else at work here. Someone yet to be revealed. Stay tuned. :watch:

    As for Huck ... there have been so many times that I just want to hug him. I've never been the kind of women who gravitates toward "broken" men, thinking I can "fix" them, but there's something about Huck -- the way he's written and the brilliant way Guillermo Díaz acts him -- that I find completely compelling.