Saturday postal service (USA) to be discontinued starting in August

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  1. Vash01

    Vash01 Well-Known Member

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    Not a big surprise. It was talked about earlier, and now it's final. The USPS will not deliver or collect mail on Saturdays, starting August 5, to stay afloat financially. They will deliver packages, however.

    I don't mind it. The only time this could be an issue is if Monday is a holiday (Memorial day, labor day, MLK day, Presidents day), which could mean 3 straight days without mail. They had to do something to recover from the losses. However, their biggest problem was having to pay post-retirement health care costs ahead of time to their employees.

    http://money.cnn.com/2013/02/06/news/economy/postal-service-cuts/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
  2. gkelly

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    As long as the post office is open for people to go in and mail packages, etc. on Saturdays, which is the only time some people can get there during the week.
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  3. vesperholly

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    Interesting. A lot of postage prices just went up, with international shipping being the biggest increase (more than doubling across the board). I'm still surprised that they raised first-class package postage only 5 cents. They might have done better with a larger increase on the more frequently used service.

    I participate in swaps on another website, and the now-$6 international postage (up from $3) will definitely make me reconsider international swaps.
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  4. MacMadame

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    I often forget to check my mailbox on Saturdays anyway. :D
  5. Skittl1321

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    Because they are still delivering packages, I don't see this as an issue at all. Quite honestly, I check my mail so infrequently (was the absolute highlight of my day as a kid) now that I don't have a driveway box (new developments in my area are required to have cluster boxes, apparently in my previous city 'new' was considered post 1984!) that if they only did MWF residential delivery (5 day business) I wouldn't have a problem! I think the cluster boxes will become a lot more common too, I actually wonder if they will retro-fit them. They require a lot less time to deliver the mail, and a lot less gas, so it saves money as well.

    The only thing I see changing is that we'll have to tell our tenant to make sure to mail her rent check earlier, the 1st is the 1st and it has to be here.
  6. peibeck

    peibeck Counting down the days 'til Skate America

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    According to the article it is only delivery service for non-packages which would end. Post offices would remain open, and PO Boxes in said offices would still get Saturday delivery.
  7. skatingfan5

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    It's sometimes the one thing that will get me out of bed fairly early on Saturday. :shuffle: Actually, though, what I'm going to miss is the convenience of Saturday mail pickup from my house-- especially when I've forgotten to mail something on Friday that's due on Monday or Tuesday. I could get out and schlep to the post office that's only 7-8 blocks away, but it's been one of the locations they have been threatening to close for the past year or more. The next nearest one takes nearly an hour to get there an back by bus. :(
  8. Anita18

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    I honestly think they could get away with delivery every other day. FedEx is known for overnight, and I don't see how getting your mail every day is really that necessary.

    Now I shall wait for people to tell me I'm wrong. :D
  9. maatTheViking

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    our mail delivery has moved from arriving around noon, to arriving around 5pm. So that is not what gets me up from bed :rofl:.

    I forget to check mail most of the time anyway, and the only thing I get is usually advertising and the odd bill I haven't set up through online pay. For me a MWF delivery would be OK too, it is not like mail here is day to day anyway (I count most mail from the east coast get here in 7 days, local about 2-3. I only get exciting mail in my mailbox at Christmas and birthdays!


    It is going to be interesting what the packages to overseas will end up costing me, it already was pretty expensive - $20-$30 for a small box.

    In Denmark growing up I remember the mail was always there before 11am, and letters were always 1 day delivery inside Denmark (which would correspond to 1 day inside a state here, I suppose). I have no idea how the Danish postal service is doing, I bet they have their own problems.
  10. cruisin

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    What would be nice is if they put out more mailboxes, like they used to. They only have them right nest to the post offices, around here. What the heck do we need mailboxes next to the post offices for? Our mail comes early and I never have it out.
  11. smileyskate

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    I heard the main savings would be on the fuel costs. Too bad they could not negotiate something to get those reduced. They said now they will just be more slammed on Mondays.
  12. MacMadame

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    You're wrong! :mitchell:

    (Um, what was the question again? ;))

    Our Sat. delivery is kind of iffy anyway and often quite late. I only remember to check the mailbox if I go out and come back after it's delivered. During the week, we check it on the way into the house after work. We hardly ever mail anything either. We pay most bills online and when we do have to mail stuff, we attach it to the mailbox with a clothespin or I take it to work since I just happen to work next to a Post Office.
  13. numbers123

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    I personally think that we could go to a M-W-F delivery, with some post offices opened on Saturdays for those who need to have mail services (i.e. sending out certified letters, etc.) or even two days a week.
    Most of my transactions are electronic and the majority of my snail mail is advertisements, political mailings. The few pieces of true mail, I would like electronic mail anyway.
  14. cruisin

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    I don't know that I would like to have M/W/F. But, I would prefer that rather than S/S, it be Sunday and maybe Wednesday. I'd rather it not be two days in a row. I don't like to pay bills on line. I know too many people who have dealt with identity theft, since that has become available. I also will not do any automatic bill paying. Too many experiences with (Verizon especially) screwing up my bill and over charging me. Then try to get it fixed, after it's paid :scream:
  15. orbitz

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    I think many postal workers will probably either lose their jobs or have reduce work hours as a result of this, so I feel bad for them.
  16. Jenny

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    I thought I heard from the press conference that they did not anticipate layoffs or reduced hours - that it was only overtime that would be reduced? I know a lot of people depend on overtime, but if their job and benefits are still intact, that's pretty good.
  17. Skittl1321

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    Around here a lot of people are 'Saturday carriers". I am guessing, since they are temporary employees USPS doesn't consider it a layoff, but surely they won't be needed anymore.
  18. Karina1974

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    I don't. Go onto NALC's website - they're already calling for the Postmaster General's head, as well as his resignation. Sadly, that's one thing pretty much every union has in common these days: absolutely NO CLUE about what it takes to run a business and how to save it and keep it relevent during the downturn so it doesn't completely go under. They don't care if the business gets run into the ground, just so long as they receive their precious "perks" and often over-blown pay - $20+/hour to deliver mostly "junk mail' to household addresses (and this for a job that requires no form of higher education, just a high enough score on a test that is, for the most part, a personality assessment)? At least businesses (at least the one I work for) still get mail that "means something" like check payments, for example.

    Next thing they should be focusing on in order to keep business is the way their carriers conduct deliveries. Such as my parents' carrier leaving packages on the front steps without ringing the doorbell *when the car is parked in the damn driveway so obviously there is someone home* or my own carrier leaving my mail box lid wide open on a day when pouring rain is forecast (and the mail IS small enough for the lid to close over it). Rarely if ever is something done about it, even when complaints are made.

    I had to confront my carrier face-to-face to get a stop put to that, because TWO phone calls to Troy PO didn't do shit. Even now he occasionally leaves mail in my box that is meant for the office on the first floor of my building, which has its own mail slot in a separate door from the door to the 2nd and 3rd floors - the ONLY mail that should be going to my box has my name and apartment # on it. He's even put mail into the box for the one VACANT apartment in the building - mail that, again, was meant for the first floor office. I don't know if he is lazy or just plain stupid.

    Dad's father AND grandfather BOTH worked for the USPS (Postmaster and Postal Inspector), so he knows what is expected of a carrier, and he's gone to the PO that handles his mail *several times* to complain, but nothing ever gets done about his packages being left on the steps (in a rather "ghetto" neighborhood I might add, which is why they have the front porch door locked at all times). The carrier doesn't even "brown card" the delivery, just leaves it out on the steps where any punk walking down the street can swipe it.
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  19. JasperBoy

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    SAturday delivery? What's that? We haven't had Saturday delivery in Canada for decades. We manage. I mean, who really uses mail anymore except to receive online purchases?
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    Me, for one.
  21. skatingfan5

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    Some of us "dinosaurs" still write actual letters, send postcards and greeting cards -- to people who actually reciprocate in a similar fashion. Some of us also pay some of our bills by mail, too; sometimes we don't have the option of doing otherwise. Obviously not enough people do these things to keep the USPS solvent. :(
  22. snoopy

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    I am with you. Everyone thinks I am a luddite but it takes me 6 minutes a month to write my checks and I'd rather do that then worry about cleaning up a security breach from web banking. And now people are using their mobile phones to bank. Good luck with the security on that.
  23. Skittl1321

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    I write letters and send postcards and greeting cards. I see no problem at all in having to wait until Monday to get them.
  24. skatingfan5

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    I can wait until Monday for most mail as well, although I do enjoy reading on the weekend when I have more leisure time, rather than late in the evening after work and meetings when I am tired. But, as I posted earlier, the main loss to me personally, is the home Saturday mail pickup, not the delivery. I'll certainly survive, even if I won't like it.
  25. merrywidow

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    It's bad enough that many companies expect to be paid in less than 30 days after billing you. If you're late you probably get socked with a late fee. So be sure in future that you pay all your bills as soon as you receive them. No more waiting until payday.
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    Junk mail is what is paying for the post office. First class postage is not. Junk mail is the reason that first class rates are subsidized. The person who is delivering at junk mail is doing the work to keep rates reasonable.

    If a private business, such as a store or restaurant, or, my old dentist after Microsoft layed off thousands in the Puget Sound area, decides it's more expensive to stay open six days a week than five and takes two days off, that's a business decision.
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  27. maatTheViking

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    Interesting, every single identity theft I have heard of has been about bills received in the mail and thrown in the trash, people using that as identity proof. I have not hear of anyone dealing with online identity fraud.
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    That was an issue in the last Seattle neighborhood I lived in, where mailboxes aren't locked, especially when credit card companies were bombarded with credit card offers.
  29. MacMadame

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    Yes, I've been paying my bills online for as long as that option was available and I've never had an single identify theft issue. I have had my credit card numbers stolen but that was from (as far as I could tell by the timing of it) from using them in restaurants. And my lovely former company also managed to get some of my person information stolen from a laptop they didn't keep secure. Though nothing came of that, thank goodness.
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  30. JasperBoy

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    Dinosaurs, eh? As someone about to turn 70, I take exception to that :)

    I do use the Post Office occasionally, but lately it has mainly to receive shipments of coffee capsules!
  31. skatingfan5

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    I often feel as though those of us old enough to have bought LPs and 45s, thought a push-botton phone was a great new time saver, and pounded the keys on a non-electric typewriter are thought by some to be from something akin to the late Jurassic era. :lol:
  32. cruisin

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    Yes, the phone thing, to me, seems crazy! I see people who have their credit card on their phone and they just scan their phone when they pay for something. What if your phone is stolen? And anyone who donates their used phones had better be sure they are wiped clean.

    My husband had his stolen in a restaurant. Fortunately AmEx is pretty quick to notify you with unusual purchases. It seems a nuisance when it is you using the card, but I never get upset when I get a credit card check in a store. It's for my own protection. And the card's as well, since they are ultimately responsible. But, I know a few people who pay on line and have had problems.
  33. Gazpacho

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    I don't mind them discontinuing Saturday delivery, even for packages. But in that case, I want them to keep the post offices open on Saturday with perhaps extended hours--that's the only time some people who work during the week can go. I would also like to see an option to have it delivered on Saturday for an extra fee. I believe UPS or FedEx does this.
  34. JasperBoy

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    My grandfather was a postman....before the PC letter carrier designation. He retired in 1942, before I was born. I often think of Grandad wearing his wool serge uniform year-round, since modern letter carriers wear casual cotton shorts and hats. I have often been told that Grandad had to deliver the mail on Christmas morning, so the children had to wait until his return from his rounds before opening their gifts.

    The job kept him healthy, though. Grandad lived to be 100!
  35. Simone411

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    And I'm thankful that my old stereo and turntable with the giant Panasonic speakers still works! :lol:

    Seriously, though, even SS will soon stop mailing checks and require recipients to either use automatic bank draft or a type of debit card. It's a much safer system in regards to the safety of mailing the checks through the US Post Office.
  36. CantALoop

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    It's not just the USPS, I've had both UPS and FedEx carriers (in both Honolulu and San Francisco) abandon packages where others can take them, and the same companies have delivery men who did other shady things like forge my name when it's delivery with a required signature, and once I caught a FedEx guy tossing my package against a wall to land on my door step.
  37. Grannyfan

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    No Saturday delivery won't bother me. The post office in the small town where I live is always open, but the window for buying stamps, etc., hasn't been open on Saturday in years.

    Although I pay my bills online nowadays, I still buy stamps by the book because I send lots of greeting cards.
  38. vesperholly

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    No Saturday post, no penny ... it's anarchy up there! :lol:
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    I think the change is a good idea. I am really fond of the post office. I still think mailing a letter for $.46 is a good deal. And I love our postal carrier Traci who is a source of endless good will. And God knows I've kept her busy as I collect ornaments and she always attempts to give the packages to me rather than leave them on the porch.
  40. Coco

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    There's a lot of people in this thread who don't have much experience waiting for checks to arrive in the mail.

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