Ru Paul's Drag Race Season 4

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  1. Nomad

    Nomad Well-Known Member

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    ^ She certainly has it coming.
  2. olympic

    olympic Well-Known Member

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    OK, well the NNN awards allusion to the 'holy trinity' was misleading. I'm happy. Just wish it was Phi Phi! Ugh. Guess we are stuck with her until the end.

    Just realized that next week should be the final episode of the season, correct? Usually, the top 3 start the episode, someone is eliminated half-way through and the other 2 LSFYL for the crown (usually).
  3. Allen

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    Next week is a recap episode. So, I guess the finale is in the 2 weeks.
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    :rofl: Chad's depiction of PeePee in the Bitch Ball puppet challenge may be my favorite minute of this season.

    The orange spray paint, the snaggle tooth, the shade about PeePee's failed "The Help" joke, some more shade ... then the spot-on, dripping in sarcasm :cat: “I’m sure America is just going to love you," complete with a pinch to puppet PeePee's cheek. I fell over. Loved seeing that side of Chad, and loved seeing PeePee's "that's not me" reaction.

    :lol: That the girls were reaching into a glory hole to draw their puppets. I'm wondering whether that will be The Soup's clip, or the intro with Ru making a dozen naughty puns about dogs and bitches while introducing the theme?

    :( Goodbye Latrice. But, it was time ... big girl hasn't really done anything noteworthy in a long time, her only bright spot being the duets challenge victory that Willam was 90% responsible for. Chad was far better last night, and schooled Latrice in the LSFYL. Done deal.

    :respec: Wonderful runway "goodbye" words from Latrice, as well as some sweet mending words to the other gals in the Untucked episode.

    PeePee really did do well - in all respects except for being a decent person - this episode, so I can finally agree with the praise she got on the runway. But, :blah: if she wins this.

    Dita Von Teese in the pink box lounge. :lol: Very funny bit, good for a giggle. But, really, I don't buy it "as presented."
  5. Aceon6

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    Headline the Absolut tour??? Not so much, unless she has a huge following in the younger gay community. I'd be happy with Sharon or Chad.
  6. taf2002

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    I would be shocked if Sharon didn't win, also shocked if Pee Pee isn't the one eliminated halfway thru. I think both Sharon & Chad show a lot more originality in the challenges. Maybe it's because I like Chad's fashion taste more than P P's but I hated the dog park Nikki Minaj look. And I loved the Cruella De Ville runway look. I would have put P P's overdone look in the bottom 2. If she had been there, Latrice would have buried her in the LSFYL.

    I wish Chad & Latrice had supported Sharon in that she wasn't lying about P P. Maybe she would have woken up to reality if more than one person would have called her out on her backstabbing ways, like when she told Jiggly to do the magazine challenge seriously instead of funny. And Chad should have confronted her about her ragging on her age. BTW P P complained about Sharon's wish for a cruise but she always thinks someone is sabotaging her if she doesn't get her choice, like with the dogs. Someone had to have the bloodhound, so why not the most unpleasant person? And I have NEVER seen her offer Sharon any help. She has a very twisted view of herself.

    I also thought the right people won the 2 challenges. Chad was hysterical with the puppet & Sharon's look in all 3 challenges was spot on.
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  7. Nomad

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    Untucked should have been called Unbearable this week. I wanted to throttle Phi Phi to make her shut. the. fcuk. up.

    ETA I was sorry to see Latrice go. i loved her spirit. Plus she did two of the best LsFYL's ever.
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  8. skateboy

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    Agreed. Besides PP going off as usual, I was sorry to see Latrice being so nice to her. I've been waiting for the day when Latrice would kick her ass (verbally)! I also wish Chad would have said the things about PP directly to her face instead of just venting to Sharon. Ah, well...

    I LOOOOOOVED the "conversation" between the dogs in the Interior Illusions Lounge--hilarious!
  9. Fergus

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    That was the best part!!! :rofl: Latrice's poor puppy's head-tilt when she was in the bottom two was priceless.

    Dita von Teese! WTF? :lol:
  10. Beefcake

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    :lol: Bitch, I am from Chicago!
  11. Beefcake

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    Willam looked fab as trophy girl during the NewNowNext Awards show. :glamor: Girl got to do two of her favorite things -- change into multiple fashions and self-promote -- in an efficient, nifty 90-minutes.

    Got to also give props to Kelly Osbourne, who was pretty good as host. She is getting better at this "reality personality and host" career. :)

    :cold: Jiggly Caliente "as Naya Rivera" was ... odd. Sharon Needles falling on stage was ... :lol:

    :huh: WTH is up with this little girl being the featured STAR throughout? Creepy, especially during the come hither LYFYL v. Willam.

    :yikes: Speaking of creepy -- Perez Hilton. The weight loss has helped push his face into Maria Shriver territory, and I don't care to see his torso -- whether chubby or emaciated.
  12. Fergus

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    I didn't catch NNN Awards, but I assume you're talking about that god-awful freaky Bride of Chucky lookalike?

    Yeah, we don't want her in NYC and certainly not on LOGO. She can go back to the Ozarks with that scary-assed mother of hers. :yikes:

    He looks like he aged about 20 years! He could be a Boca Raton retiree. :wideeyes:
  13. Beefcake

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    Just to be clear to everyone else, we're not talking about not Kenya Michaels, but rather Eden -- the Toddlers & Tiaras alum/new Logo star, preschooler Eden.

    [Er, right, Fergus? :lol: Confusion would be understandable, what with the "god-awful", "creepy", and "Bride of Chucky" references.]
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    That THING that looks like a deformed showgirl in a Tod Browning film. :yikes:

    Eden. Perfect, she's already picked out the name for her porn career.
  15. taf2002

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    I'm so disappointed. I got up this morning thinking I was going to get to watch the finale but instead I'm getting a rewind edition online. Was the finale on TV last night? I don't get that channel so I have to watch on Tuesdays online.
  16. Beefcake

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    ^ Yes! [SPILLER]Shangela finally won!![/SPILLER] :cheer: Whee.
  17. Beefcake

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    :p Nah, it was the clips show. Nothing huge to report, except that Pandora Boxx is still frigging hilarious. She, Channel and Mariah did the "top runway looks" portion. Channel was barely serviceable, and Maria had some nice dry-funny quips. But PB was :lol: ... so many great one-liners, including one re: Sharon Needles' "Botox/nosejob" look -- something like "oh, look, it's Madonna two weeks before the Super Bowl realness". :rofl:

    Nothing else was truly reportable, but I'm a bit worried about a would-be throwaway comment from PeePee during her "you're on the show!" Skype session. She snipes, "well, you might as well fit me for the crown right now, because I'm winning it!". :yikes: Please don't be foreshadowing that they will play as she'd being crowned next week. Please :fragile:

    Not a spoiler (no inside information here), but speculation on the crowning:
    I'm starting to buy into the mindset that there will be two winners. Ru's saying "I'm breaking ALL the rules, and it's during the finale. What else could it be but dual winners? Edgic would say the two are the queens who've bloodied and bruised each other all season-long -- Sharon and PeePee -- but I'm hoping for a "besties" winners duet with Chad and Sharon ... as a "whole" they merge two wonderful worlds of drag into one perfect queen.
  18. Fan123

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    Beefcake. We all know that reality shows are edited to add excitement and drama (usually to draw more viewers), so I think to the contrary...PeePee won't be the winner. Can't wait to see the finale though.
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  19. taf2002

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    I think Sharon Needles deserves the title but my sentimental favorite is Chad Michaels. It's hard for me to judge where PP should end up because he's so unpleasant & bitter that I can't be unbiased. I would have :kickass: to the curb long ago.
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    I agree, Sharon deserves the title. As much as I also like Chad Michaels, I think she's not unique, and do not have the range and versatility. Many of her looks have the same Cher-look to them. Don't get me wrong, I like her a lot, but the edge should go to Sharon.

    As for PeePee, I just don't see her taking the title. The top 3 in past seasons are way better than her.
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    This is where I have to disagree. As far as range and versatility go, Chad has it all over Sharon. Sharon is good at the Goth/Punk look. Many many of her looks are very similar. H/She said it many times his/herself in different venues (shows, interviews, etc): When in doubt, freak them out. So Sharon's range is a variety of "freak them out" look.

    I'm rooting for Chad. But I think RuPaul already picked Sharon as the winner since day 1. Read my lips!
  22. taf2002

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    I loved Chad's runway look on the Vote For Me episode. I too think Chad has range & versatility but for me, Sharon has owned this competition. If not for breaking the rules, I think the F3 would have been Chad, Sharon, & Willum, and then the F3 would have been more even. I think PP hasn't a prayer against Chad & Sharon. But once he's gone, I can't call it & I will be fine with either of them winning.
  23. Beefcake

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    Ooh, :cheer2: melovey the preview for next week's finale, mainly because of that Sharon/Chad hug in the workroom. I'm interpreting it as an emotional, celebratory "wow, girl, we are the Final 2" hug between new Sisters4Life.

    This would make it two :kickass: F2s in a row.
  24. olympic

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    And this will hopefully mean that PP is booted out as #3
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    The "Glamazon" video is so funny/bad. :lol:

    ETA: WHAT?!?!?! :rofl: Oh that ain't nice, Auntie Ru......
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  26. topaz

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    HOLY LORD WHAT A FINALE...FANS GET THEIR INPUT YEA

    Sharon Sharon for the win
  27. Allen

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    Well, we know Phi Phi isn't winning for sure. The fans do NOT like her. I would say Sharon will take it, especially considering that she won the Drag Race All Stars poll and totally smoked Chad and Phi Phi.
  28. Beefcake

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    :kickass: LOVE the twist! Normally, I'd hate it, but all things considered this was a potential godsend.

    ITA, Allen. By "saving" the decision to after the season aired, Ru assured that she didn't make the grave mistake of crowning that BITCH.

    Ru probably crafted the "crowning at reunion episode" to avoid spoilers getting out, ala last season, but it will probably benefit the franchise much more by avoiding [the chance for] a horrendously :yikes: unpopular winner whose crowning would turn viewers away

    ... and the twist likely will result in the crowning of the landslide favorite of the season, Sharon Needles.

    Er, all of the above only if RuPaul "hears" and considers the public voice even at 10%. :lol:
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    Sharon's LS was so good.
  30. Beefcake

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    PeePee looks hilariously unsexy in her "swimsuits", all of which seem cut specifically for MeeMa's granny panties than for a would-be fab young drag queen's ensemble ... and make this skinny boy look "Alexis Mateo in her padded glory" chunky.
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    I hope Santino and Michelle realize how wrong they were about the public not being ready for Sharon. I'm not sure there's ever been a more popular queen on the show.

    I had the opportunity to see Sharon perform when I was in Nashville recently and she definitely deserves the title.
  32. Beefcake

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    But, :drama: isn't drag 89.4% about being pretty? Auntie Michelle told me so.


    :D Some of the smartest, wittiest, most together people around knew of Mz. Needles' greatness ... as far back as Page 1
    ... even if they may have doubted how long "the Michelle's and Santino's" would let her stick around.

    Yay, us! :cheer: indeed.
  33. Allen

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    Wheeee! I was enamored with Sharon from the second I saw her in the teaser trailer for the season. I remember being so nervous that she might not even make it through the first episode, but after that, I knew she was golden.

    So far on Facebook, I would say about 80 percent are for Sharon, about 20 percent for Chad and less than 1 percent for Phi Phi (I think I've seen 5 people out of 22,000 vote for her).
  34. olympic

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    LOL. Are you all voting?

    Anyway, I would say that Ru opening up the competition to the outside world has guaranteed Phi Phi will NOT win. Her attitude is coming back to bite her in the a$$. I hope this is a topic of discussion in the Reunited segment next week.

    I like Sharon and a glance at my Facebook page tells me she'll win, but I'd be fine with Chadd winning.
  35. Fan123

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    I am going on Facebook and vote for Sharon Needles, lol. I don't know, from watching the finale, it looks like Sharon is in a bit of trouble with her lack of dance ability and overall flatness. Either way though, I like her the most as she's so original. PP on the other hand was killing it, and garnered all positive feedback from the judges. The race is too tight to call at this point.
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    It was too reminiscent of least season for me to give it any creedence. Remember raj was winning it all until the champion video where they spent the whole show showcasing her every misstep. Raj still won hands down and Alexis was 3rd dispite shinning in the video challenge.

    I also think the lsfyl spoke more to their performance talents. Sharon was edgy and entertaining. Chad was old school polished professional. Phi phi hopped around like a puppy who drank too much coffee. There's a fine line between hungry and desperate.
  37. my little pony

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    i've been to the website and fb page and i can't find any way to vote other than tweeting

    #iamlame
  38. Allen

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    I think Ru has to be aware of the fact that the public didn't really want any of the previous winners to win. The viewers were much more behind Nina, Raven (and Pandora), and Manila than the actual winners. That can be seen from the fact that none of the previous winners faired well in the all-stars poll.

    I actually saw the video for Glamazon on logo a few days ago and other than the one slightly awkward dance moment, Sharon was the best and, in fact, it looked like she was slightly more featured than the others. So, when I saw that, I assumed Sharon had it wrapped up.

    I'm glad to that Ru has opened it up for discussion because it's clear to me that Sharon wouldn't have won last night otherwise. The only thing that worries me is where Sharon won the all-stars poll, are they going to say that she has another chance to compete and give it to Chad?
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  39. taf2002

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    I have never liked PP & I still don't want her to win, but I did feel a lot of sympathy for her in this episode. I feel for anyone whose father put them in the hospital for being gay. It's not surprising that she is bitter & I'm sure it's not easy to blow it off & rise above it. OTOH I'm not sure any of her family drama is true. There have been more & more details coming out & I wonder if she's making it up as she goes along.

    I like Chad & Sharon so much & think they both deserve it so it's hard to choose. I think I want Chad to win just because her looks are more versatile. When they showed the whole season's looks for the F3, I liked Chad's body of work the best.
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    Edit - Ru slipped in a line during the episode saying (paraphrased) the winner would be selected 'based on your performances over the course of the season.' This probably gave Ru an out if someone like Sharon screwed up during the finale's challenge, but had been more or less awesome during the other episodes. I honestly don't think it will be about a slip-up in the finale. Ru already took the final challenge into consideration and came up empty handed, punting the decision to us on the outside, and it looks like Sharon is killing it on FB at least (I don't know about Twitter)