Royalty Thread #5 - Kate Now Officially A MILF

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by floskate, Jul 23, 2013.

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  1. Vash01

    Vash01 Well-Known Member

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    I had seen these (and more) at couple other places but I don't think I will get tired of them soon. Of course there will be thousands coming in later. He is such a beautiful baby, and Kate looks so beautiful as a mother! William the Dad also looks so happy! I just love seeing a happy family like theirs.
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  2. LilJen

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    Heh, they timed it right. Two minutes later he might have been screaming his head off :)

    I, too, am all in favor of the dogs in the photo.
  3. centerstage01

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    For the love of all that's holy, will the media kindly get over the fact that Kate's dad took the first "official" photographs rather than hiring a professional photographer? No, Mr. Middleton isn't going to be hired by Elle or Vogue any time soon, but I think the pictures are very nice and William and Kate look relaxed and comfortable, George looks like a little cherub, and the additions of Lupo and Tilly would never have happened in any other pictures because it's unlikely they'd relax enough and sit still for someone brand new. I swear, some people are acting like these are the only pictures of the kid that will ever be released. And the interviews with photographers "critiquing" the pictures just reeks of jealousy that they weren't chosen.

    When George is christened in October or so, there will be official pictures coming out the wazoo, where the lighting is perfect and everything is just so. Jeepers!
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  4. PDilemma

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    And if they had used a professional photographer, there would be a plethora of internet discussions about how much money they wasted on it when everyone else would just have grandpa grab the digital camera.

    They really can't win.

    I also found it interesting that in the brief piece of the CNN interview with Prince William that was already released, he says that they are doing what they think is best for their family not trying to make symbolic statements. I notice the people around the web who read deep symbolic messages into everything they do are not talking about that!
  5. heckles

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    They're also sitting in one of several mansions and castles they get to occupy, while looking attractive and healthy. In some circles, this is known as winning.
  6. PDilemma

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    Well, in these pictures they are not. They were taken in her parents' backyard.

    Money and expensive housing is not everything. Having every single thing you do criticized by the international press and ten million people on the internet would not be fun no matter how nice the house you are in while they are doing it is.
  7. heckles

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    It sure beats squatting in a rice paddy to give birth to little Phong during your 16-hour shift.
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    I'd say, "some circles" need to learn and realize then that there's so much more in life than appearances and money. Mansions and castles have nothing to do with winning. They don't bring happiness, they don't teach values and what's important in life, they don't love you. And I have a feeling that William would gladly exchange all of what "some circles" consider winning if that would mean he could have his mother back.
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    Which the Middletons get to occupy because they paid for it with their hard-earned money.

    I wouldn't want to live in a fishbowl like the British royals do. Yes, there are a lot of advantages, but there are a lot of constraints and rules that affect their lives. Some people would consider this an acceptable tradeoff, others would rather have less materially but be able to live normal lives.
  10. tarotx

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    I love the official photos. There is a quiet dignity and realness to them even if the setting/staging really isn't that much different than if they are were done by a professional. When I first saw them I didn't know her father took them and I thought great choice. I have some with my guy and son right after we came home from the hospital. They have the same feel.
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  11. heckles

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    It appears that William and Kate have what you consider winning, so, as Charlie Sheen would say, they're bi-winning. I have a "feeling" that many people living in China have seen their own loved ones snuffed out by their oppressive government, live with no privacy, and live in poverty.
  12. ballettmaus

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    I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to say here, really, but, I suppose, if you use the people in China as an example, we're all winners and we all live in some sort of mansion compared to what the people you are referring to live in.

    On a side note, yes, William and Kate seem to have love and happiness and they also seem to know about values and in addition they do have the housing. But do we know if they really care for them? Maybe they prefer the cottage they live in wherever it is where William works.
    My reply was going more into the general direction of things because I honestly don't understand why you assumed just because they have the housing, the material possessions, they're winning. Do they make life more comfortable? Absolutely. But just because someone has the material possessions doesn't mean they lead a great life. It's not the grounds for leading a happy and fulfilled life. Those lie elsewhere, for everyone, not just Kate and William. That was the point I was trying to make.
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  13. heckles

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    Nah, everyone has the right to complain about their mundane lives; it keeps Secret Sources populated. What is ironic is that the same people lamenting that the royals have no privacy are the same people fueling the interest in the royals. "Look at these family photos of Kate and William! Oh, I just can't stand how the media gives them no privacy!" The "media" won't sell what you don't buy.
  14. Jenny

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    I think you are simplifying the issue. The Royals and William especially has done a great job of giving the media many, many opportunities to photograph them, interview them, and report on their activities. Where it crosses the line is when they stalk to the point of danger, use telephoto lenses to capture their private moments, or when people who shouldn't do so provide personal details to media.

    Similarly the Royals are very open with the public - many, many public appearances and now a very wide and deep presence of social media. Again, where it might cross the line is when members of the public decide they want more - stalking, trying to get into places they shouldn't, etc.

    One can be a happy consumer of the photos that Kate and William issue publicly on their own terms and still have a distaste for media that cross the line that has been very clearly drawn by the Royal Family.
  15. heckles

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    True, but the same people who whine about those allegedly intrusive photos are also looking at those photos and commenting on them. I'm sure there are some people who only look at the official photos, but they're living on some Maharishi commune.
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    The "usual" photographers are upset because they don't have something they can sell for big $$$$$.
    The time will come for more "formal" portraits; such as at the Christening.

    eta: I believe that Prince William has done a fine job, thus far, in balancing his official duties with his desire to lead as "normal" a family life as possible.
    This is a challenge that may be much more difficult in the years ahead.
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  17. taf2002

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    You are absolutely wrong. When a story breaks that some photographer has gotten photos by spying & that the subject(s) is trying to suppress them, I never go looking for them to see for myself. I have never seen the nude pictures of Jackie O or the pictures of Kate in France or the sex videos of Paris Hilton or Kim K because I have no interest withsoever in intruding in this way. I think people who take them are absolute scum & the people who view them are not better, because they support scum. And I am not living on some Maharishi commute & I don't think I am unique in how I feel.
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  18. Skittl1321

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    You're not. I've never seen any of the things you mentioned.
  19. heckles

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    I didn't even know about the first two you mentioned. The latter two I haven't watched yet. Krishna, Krishna.
  20. Alixana

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    People in a Maharishi commune have internet access? Funny, always pictured them meditating or weeding their veg plot, not surfing FSU. ;)
  21. heckles

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    If you can tune into the proper transcendental plane, sure.
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  22. dardar1126

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    :HA!:

    http://www.digitalspy.com/celebrity...andrew-back-together-planning-to-remarry.html

    Sarah Ferguson and Prince Andrew 'back together, planning to remarry'
    Published Sunday, Aug 25 2013, 10:31am EDT | By Colin Daniels

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    I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Andrew and Sarah were never really apart all these years. Good luck to them if they do decide to remarry.
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    I'll believe that when I see it confirmed by other than tabloid sources; such as official Royal channels.
  25. heckles

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    Partners in crime.
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    Has Prince Philip given his blessing for this? I've always heard he couldn't stand Sarah and the fact that she had to leave Balmoral before Philip arrived a few weeks ago still kind of confirms that theory. They might remarry after he dies, but I question it happening before then.
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    Why would it take Philip's blessing? Those two have already proved that they go their own way without regard to what anyone thinks. And Philip really doesn't have any power that the Queen doesn't give him.
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    Neither does Andrew. :shuffle:
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    That's not the point. centerstage implied that the marriage might not go forward if Philip disapproved. My point was that Philip couldn't stop it if Andrew was stupid enough to take Fergie back.
  30. Jenny

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    I haven't followed them, but the article says she lives with him, and if she really was invited to Balmoral -from what I understand the Queen's most private residence, family only, then that's a pretty big deal, no?
  31. heckles

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    Fergie's pretty delusional if she cloaks her schism with the royal family as a symptom of her commercialism. Not that this would be the first time that she doesn't take responsibility for her foul-ups. She's lucky that she didn't end up in jail for the influence peddling stunt(s).
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  32. Vagabond

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    Actually, it very much is the point.

    1. If he wants to marry anyone, he either needs the Queen's consent or has to give the Privy Council a year's notice (and hope that both houses of Parliament refrain from expressly disapproving the marriage). Otherwise, the marriage would be void. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Marriages_Act_1772

    2. His housing and much of his income is either directly dependent on his mother or, at the very least, dependent on being in her good graces.

    I suspect, however, that if Andrew and Sarah really want to get married again, the Queen will consent, regardless of how her husband feels about it.

    eign's consent may marry one year after giving notice to the Privy Council of their intention to so marry, unless both houses of Parliament expressly declare their disapproval.
  33. *Jen*

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    Not quite.

    If he wanted to remain a royal, yes. Given he's unlikely to ever be king, there's nothing to stop him renouncing his right to the throne and then marrying whoever the hell he wants! Think Edward VIII...
  34. heckles

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    Eh, I think Andy and his old bird are shrewd enough to realize that they can keep the posh digs if they also keep their currish coupling on the DL.
  35. my little pony

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    it has only been 3 yrs since fergie tried to sell access to andrew, i think their remarriage would be unpopular with more than just he DoE

    and andrew has the best of both worlds, he bangs fergie for old times sake and trades underaged girls with jeffrey epstein. i think fergie was in balmoral because bea is close to engagement.
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    Andrew is trying to get his daughters to have full time careers as Royals. He. Will. Never. Leave, lol
  37. *Jen*

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    His daughters are royals in their own right, although that said, risk becoming rather obscure. The more kids Wills and Harry have, the further down the line they're bumped...
  38. Jenny

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    Is that so bad? If all you want to do is have a secure home and income, enjoy the parties and pageants, and do a little charity work, then maybe it's a good thing that you are further from the throne and don't need to take on as much responsibility.
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    True :)

    I read an article about a year ago about why things were tough for them. They are both well educated, but couldn't find work after uni. It's difficult to find a job suitable for a royal in the first place since the men go into the military and the women have never had to work, but with this economy....

    The article was stating the further they get from the throne, the more pressing it is for them to find work or marry.

    And as for parties...didn't they both give up drinking after one too many embarrassing incidents? I think one had a stolen car...Eugenie maybe?
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    Everyone, royal or not, deserves the opportunity to find the career/job meant for them.
    I hope the younger generation - particularly the women royals - are able to do so.
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