Royalty Thread #4 Nappies and Nuptials

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  1. AragornElessar

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    Exactly!!

    It's a historic day today in Serbia...

    The Royal Family of Serbia ~ HM King Peter II Returns Home After 72 Years

    Can't imagine the levels of negotiations that had to take place for this to happen, but good on the Government to do it and also this could help to put that particular Chapter of History behind them.

    On a different note...Happy Birthday HRH the Countess of Wessex!!! May Sophie have enjoyed a lovely day w/Edward, the kids and lots of cake!! :D

    ETA ~ This is just too cute...The Spanish RF at a Tennis Match between Federer and Nadal and two little girls being entertained by a Crown Princess. :D

    YouTube ~ Letizia, Sofia and Irene along w/the others enjoy a Tennis Match...Sort of.

    and...

    Felipe and Letitiza celebrate Spain's 2010 World Cup win...

    Celebrating Spain's Winning the World Cup

    Don't you love it when the Royals act just like us? :D
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  2. AragornElessar

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    Sorry for the double post, but this really does need it's own post...

    This just popped up on my Twitter feed...

    Pink News ~ MPs to plan for gay royals marrying same-sex partners and their children becoming king or queen

    While it's the right time to start talking about this w/the current changes about to be made to the Succession Laws, I don't see this going through right now. Simply because it's the first time it's been brought up and considering the Church of England's "feelings" *and* how traditionalists still make up the back bone of British Government and....

    Do I think it should happen? Of course. Do I think it's going to happen this time? Sadly no.
  3. AragornElessar

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    Surprised no posts about Prince Harry's interview on ending his second tour of duty in Afghanistan. Here's a couple of articles and one of them is...Well...Pot calling kettle black a bit?

    Telegraph ~ How dare the Guardian sneer at Prince Harry?

    The Khaleej Times ~ Taleban say Harry has a mental issue

    I remember Prince Charles being asked about Harry training for the Apache last year and Charles saying he wouldn't be able to do it because so much of it now is so computerized and as Harry grew up playing computer games, it wasn't a problem for Harry or for William. Not the first time either I've heard that this Generation training to be pilots has it a bit easier due to their exposure to video games.

    Just putting out there in contrast to the above article link.

    ETA ~ Just saw this at The Royal Forums...

    Prince Carl Friedrich is the Heir Apparent. Congratulations to TI&RH on their two little blessings!!!
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  4. AragornElessar

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    Really great documentary, which has many of the bits and pieces we've seen over the last two days. Amazing how things can be twisted to suit whatever the news organization wants, huh?

    YouTube ~ British Forces News Special ~ Prince On A Mission

    And Harry is now home and on UK Soil.

    Welcome Home Captain Wales and all of his mates in his Squadron!!!
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    Here's an interesting little story about a "lost" photo of Diana as a teen - People. Aside from the price, the fact that "not to be published" is scrawled across the image made me click on the link within the article to see where it came from. Nice picture of her though!
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    Was this the first time you heard about this picture Jenny? It came to light just before the Holidays IIRC and I knew the auction was coming up soon, but didn't realize it was today. I hope it went somewhere where it will be displayed properly and admired.

    Just found this...

    The Royal Collection ~ The Queen's Coronation 1953

    I would *love* an up close look at HM Coronation Gown. That is a Masterpiece of beading and embroidery work. Sigh...
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    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/c...e-is-bound-to-be-a-happier-mother-than-diana/

    Clearly a slow news day. I don't think one should make the kind of generalizations this writer is making. I think the Duchess is doing a great job of her current role (supporting her husband,) and she will probably be a good mother. That said, I do wish writers would stop with the "grueling workload" comments. Kate has had anything but a grueling workload - which is just fine and probably healthier in the long run. Diana, on the other hand, had an extremely grueling workload right from the start - which I think was unhealthy and probably contributed to her problems later on. I also think Charles and Diana, for all their own marital problems, did a fabulous job as parents.
  9. AragornElessar

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    This was posted to Twitter last night...

    Telegraph ~ Queen Mother pleaded for Charles not to be schooled in Scotland

    Reading the excerpts from the letter, it's amazing just how well she knew Charles and how dead on accurate her fears were too. A pity he wasn't sent to Eton, but the past is the past.

    Speaking of the past...

    English Historical Fiction Authors Blog ~ The Death of Henry VIII: Demolishing the Myths

    Really fascinating read that is.

    As for reading....I've finally gotten my hands on a copy of The Reluctant King by Susan Bradford and is considered to be *the* definative biography on King George VI. Having gotten as far as the day after the Abdication taking place, I can understand why. I can't put the thing down and especially the last couple days as the Abdication Crisis played itself out to it's sad end.

    You know something? After reading that part and of the strain and stress that was on the entire Family during it, I'm amazed none of them suffered a nervous breakdown. Especially Prince Albert/King George VI.

    It also brings home in vivid detail just how inept King Edward VIII/The Duke of Windsor *really* was. The more I learn, especially over the last few years w/the declassification of so many documents having taken place and now accessible to the Public, the more I feel grateful he met Wallis and then abdicated. The thought of someone w/the political views and beliefs as he had on the Throne during WWII just chills me to my core when I think, "What if?"

    Anyway...If you can find a copy of this, GET IT!!! :D Seriously, it really should be in every Royal History library. JMO of course. :)

    ETA ~ Was looking for something else over at YouTube and found this instead...

    YouTube ~ Nat Geo ~ Britain's Nazi King

    Did I say *I* was grateful he met Wallis and then abdicated? According to this, so was the British Government who by that time knew how inept/the political views Edward had.

    And that's not even the big bombshell in this.

    Brrr....
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    And now, some pretty major royal news: looks like Queen Beatrix is going to announce this evening that she will be abdicating in favor of Prince Willem-Alexander.

    ETA: she did indeed, and the link now directs to a story confirming it. Prince Willem-Alexander will become king on April 30. This will make Princess Maxima a queen, right? And Catharina-Amalia will be the heir apparent.
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  11. AragornElessar

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    I was just checking the CBC to see what was going on in the World and then all that was heard here was me going, "OH MY GOSH!!!"

    I'm surprised she did it now, as there was no warning and she and the Crown Prince Couple just got back from a major State Visit to back to back Countries.

    Wow!!

    ETA ~ Just thought of something...If we thought Maxima had fun in the Jewel Vault before this, can you imagine what we'll see on her after April 30th? Or even at the Installation Ceremony?

    Fun to imagine....As bittersweet as it is it's happening at all right now.
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    Artist Speaks Out Regarding his Middleton Portrait

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    i dont want to become acclimated to that picture. it's depressing.
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    I knew Pablo Picasso. Pablo Picasso was a friend of mine. Paul Emsley, you're no Pablo Picasso. :p
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    Resistance is futile..;)
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    ...or John Singer Sargent!
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    Well, with time Katherine will look older, so the picture won't be so off-the-mark in that respect. But I certainly hope that smirk doesn't replace her warm smile. BTW, have people really become "acclimated" to this portrait of the Queen? It's been more than 60 years now. :shuffle:
  19. skatesindreams

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    That "portrait" bears no resemblance to HMQ, IMO.
  20. AragornElessar

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    Historic Royal Palaces has put up a really great page for those of us interested in the Tudor era. They've done a separate Podcast for each person who was executed on Tower Green. I've only listened to the Anne Boleyn one, but it was excellent.

    Historic Royal Palaces ~ The Tower of London ~ Podcasts 2013

    For those of us who don't understand the Dutch Language, here is Queen Beatrix's Abdication Speech in full and in English...

    Dutch News ~ The queen's abdication speech in full

    This post over at The Royal Correspondent does an excellent explaination of how things will end up being after all is said and done on April 30th...

    The Royal Correspondent ~ News Regarding His Royal Highness Prince Wilem-Alexander of Oranje

    For the first time in the History of The Netherlands, the female heir will hold the title of HRH The Princess of Oranje, which is the title of the Heir, in her own right. When the Dutch updated/changed their Consititution to allow Equal Gender Inheirantence in the Royal Family a few years ago, that change was also made.

    So Princess Catharina-Amalia will become The Princess of Oranje in her own right and that will be a first for the Dutch. :)

    It's not clear, but it's hoped for, that same policy (lack of a better word) will end up being put into the British changes of the Succession Act now being discussed. So that if this little one of Kate and William's does end up being a little girl, when the time comes, she will be Princess of Wales in her own right.

    At least, it's hoped that will happen.
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    Jeez--I'd expect the Taleban to say something stupid but this Hadley whoever is way off base imho in her criticism of Prince Harry. I don't think the answers in his interview were strident and I liked his honesty. And puhlease---Dick Cheney would never be caught doing the difficult jobs that our armed forces are tasked with everyday. Mind you he had no trouble sending them into harms way. What an insult to Harry.
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    Yes. Very much an insult to Harry. Especially when you watch that other link I posted w/the full Documentary, which is where these quotes of Harry's have been coming from and you realize just how badly Harry's words were twisted on him.

    He didn't deserve any of the roasting he's gotten by the Media at all.
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    Just an update, but on Monday they will be announcing the results of the DNA tests on the skeleton in the parking lot that they think is Richard III. Considering all the circumstantial evidence, I'd be very disappointed and surprised if its not him. But nothing's for sure, it could be some other nobleman who died in battle, so I'll definitely be hitting the refresh button over and over on Monday to see the results!!!
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    Well, it IS the Guardian. I can't stand that publication and the treatment of Harry's service is just another example of their asshatery. Killer Captain? You mean soldiers actually KILL people in a war? You don't say, Ms. Hadley.

    It was reported here in the US, on CBS radio to be exact--that's where I heard it, although other media reported it too, I am sure. The CBS announcer didn't make any comment other than reporting Harry said killing the enemy was a lot like playing a video game. I don't get the outrage. He has to deal with the horrific task of killing other humans. And that's his way of coping.

    The ultimate irony is of course, the Taliban talking about mental illness. Really now.

    Here's a comment under the Hadley incoherent rant that caught my eye:
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    I've seen many other interviews with soldiers who "objectify" their experiences in the same way.
    It doesn't seem inappropriate or strange to me.
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    Well...Get ready for unleashing of many articles and diagrams showing us *exactly* how far she is compared to so and so at this point because...

    US Magazine ~ Breaking News: Kate Middleton Debuts Baby Bump: Pictures

    And so it begins...:rolleyes:

    Guinevere, a good place for you to check on Monday would be The Royal Correspondent website. He's really good about keeping up on what's going on and usually has breaking Royal News as soon as it's known. I don't have the link handy, as I usually just click on whatever link he tweets about on Twitter. Anyway, that's the best place I can think of online.
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    She is debuting a poncho, not the baby bump. I can't see anything. Looks great, though and is hopefully feeling better.
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    lol, makes me want to bust out my plaid poncho tomorrow
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    Neither can I, so that's why I posted it the way I did. As I said...So it begins...

    More twisting of Harry's words and racking him over the coals....

    The Express ~ BOASTING PRINCE HARRY SPARKS SECURITY FOR PRINCE WILLIAM

    1 ~ Harry was not boasting about that in the interview. Then again, you'd need to see the actual interview, not snippets, to understand that. Neither was the tone he used when talking about that in a boasting manner.

    2 ~ Royal Security, but especially around the Cambridges and Harry, was going to be undergoing huge changes due to the various screw ups on the part of the RDPD Investigation into most of what happened last year. The one PPO accidently shooting his gun, the entire Vegas debacle where Smartphones were allowed at the Party, etc. The fear being since many of their Protection Officers have been w/them for ten years to just after Diana's death w/a couple and the lines have blurred too much.

    None of this is new to anyone who has been paying attention the last few months. However, let's use it as a way to drag Harry under the bus yet again. :mad:
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    My thoughts exactly!
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    Anyone w/access to PBS Detroit, they're showing Britain's Royal Weddings right NOW!!

    Talking about the then Duke and Duchess of York's Wedding. Later King George VI and Queen Elizabeth.

    Also tonight at 11pm EST, CBC News Network will be reshowing a documentary on Prince Phillip's Mother, HRH Princess Andrew of Greece, HSH Princess Alice of Battenberg (later turned into Mountbatten) called The Queen's Mother in Law. I saw it last week on The Passionate Eye and it's beyond fascinating. Both the Countess Mountbatten and her sister are in and I guess their Aunt Alice drove their Father crazy over how he'd sent her money in Athens and she'd in turn give it all to the poor.

    Quite the lady she was. A brave one as well for her actions during WWII.

    Oooooh...They just had a florist of today re make the then Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyons Wedding Bouquet. Very simple, but very elegant too. A simple bouquet of White Roses of York w/Scottish Heather worked in among the outer edges to set off the roses and then tied all off w/a long white satin ribbon wrapped around the stems and then the edges trailing down to set off the rest of the look. While it's true to the times, I could also see it being used by a Bride today. It really was/is beautiful.
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    WARNING!!! WARNING!!! WARNING!!!

    The following link brings up the video, and it's right at the top of the page and starts as soon as it's loaded, taken by a bystander while this happens and it shows everything happening!!

    So click at your own discretion, but there's the warning.

    Telegraph ~ Onlooker films knife-wielding man being tasered by police outside Buckingham Palace

    My God...That looks like the knife my Parents use when they're cleaning fish after a day out. Knowing how sharp that thing is, I can easily imagine it would take very little pressure for this guy to do what he was obviously intending to do.

    Glad HM and Phillip are still at Sandringham, but she will be horrified by this news regardless.

    Just...:(
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    There are a couple of Canadian angles to this story for those interested - http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/experts-say-canadian-dna-confirms-parking-lot-skeleton-is-richard-iii/article8158525/

    I wonder if renewed interest in Richard III (aside from the core group who's always been interested :)) will lead to greater interest in Henry VII. As we well know, all the historic attention is on his son and granddaughter, when in fact Henry VII's reign was a very interesting time, and his impact continues to be felt today. Back when I was reading a lot about the Tudor period, I couldn't find anything readable (ie not decades old dry scholarly works) on his life and reign, and for that matter, much on Henry VIII before he became king (and even there, the first decade of his reign usually merits only a few paragraphs while writers race to get to the juicy parts).

    I would love to see a new, well researched bio on Henry VII.
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    So would I; particularly one focusing on his early life, before the "juicy" parts, which everyone thinks they know.

    Re: Richard III:

    As it should be.
    I hope that this leads to a historical "reassessment" of his position; with the correction of the errors of history that have always surrounded him.
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    I don't know much about Henry VII, but one of the things I always thought was interesting was that he was descended from the originally illegitimate, later legitimated Beaufort line - the great-grandson of John Beaufort, eldest of the four children born to the Duke of Lancaster and his then-mistress Katherine Swynford. I've only read the Anya Seton novelization about them, but I know there are some more serious books that I should check out. The Beauforts and their descendants were not supposed to inherit at all; Henry IV had tried to ensure that.

    I'll admit that what little 15th century history I know is mostly from reading Dorothy Dunnett :shuffle:
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    Indeed. One would think that in the endless writings about Henry VIII, it would be interesting to do a proper exploration of his childhood. The influence of his father (which I've barely seen written about) and his mother (which seems limited to insisting that his daughter by Anne was named for her), and the effect of his brother's early death for starters (the latter limited to some feeling of obligation to marry Katherine, but I've seen little about his actual relationship with his brother). Then there's the oddity of being raised as the Duke of York, not king, which surely would have some effect on his character and the way he eventually reigned. We know why he had the Duke of Buckingham executed, but by Henry VIII's reign, the spectre of pretenders to the throne is treated almost as a joke in the books and documentaries I've seen, but at the time, it was a really big deal that would have been a threat throughout his reign and indeed throughout the Tudor period. Finally, the thing I'd love to hear more about are the other adults who influenced Henry VIII as a youth, and his childhood friends. We know they were important because they all ended up in his court (notably the Duke of Suffolk), but I haven't seen anything that really examines who was around Henry as a child, and how they influenced him.

    For Henry VII, I pretty much need the whole story :lol: All I know are little bits and pieces - all tantalizingly interesting!

    If anyone knows of any good sources, please do share :)
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