Royalty Thread #4 Nappies and Nuptials

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by taf2002, Dec 3, 2012.

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  1. AxelAnnie

    AxelAnnie Well-Known Member

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    Although that is lovely....and about time.........but they already know the gender........or could know if they wanted. So, it was either a safe bet (cause it is a boy) or a big deal (knowing it is a girl) :)
  2. liv

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    I am saying now it will be a girl. Just a feeling I've had since the beginning...we'll see if I"m right!!
  3. avivadawn

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    I'm also thinking that she's carrying a girl.
  4. *Jen*

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    I think it's time for a girl too - but that has nothing to do with this legislation, which had actually been proposed well before the pregnancy was announced :) They pushed through similar reforms in Denmark and then Prince Christian turned out to be a boy!

    But...there are odd coincidences and patterns in my family regarding gender, so I'm using the pattern for the royals. The Queen had a sister - two girls. She had 3 boys and a girl. Charles had 2 boys. It's time for some girls!
  5. PDilemma

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    William and Kate may know, but that doesn't mean the Queen or anyone else has been told. Just saying.
  6. *Jen*

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    I doubt they already know the gender. She was well under 12 weeks when the pregnancy was announced and the baby is rumoured to be due June/July, putting her at 12 weeks now. I don't think you can know so early?

    And anyway, like I said, this change was proposed long before the pregnancy was announced.
  7. Jenny

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  8. my little pony

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    i dont like it at all. it looks like someone did an age progression to show what she will look like in 30 years after an all night bender.
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  9. Jenny

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    That's what a lot of comments are saying on Facebook - perhaps in an effort to make it timeless, they made her look older, and slightly plumper. Maybe it's better in person, but her most important attribute - her natural radiance - is sadly missing.
  10. skatesindreams

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    That portrait doesn't capture "her" in any way.
    How in the world could the artist make her look "matronly" - at 30!
    She is a beautiful, charming young woman.

    Better to have enlarged and displayed one of the very fine photographs which have been made instead.

    The worse thing is that "smirk".
    Who thought that was a good idea?
  11. Jenny

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    Some have compared it to Mona Lisa's smile, but I think it does look like a smirk, which is uncharacteristic for her. She usually smiles with her mouth open, much more engaging.
  12. skatingfan5

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    I'm afraid the portrait doesn't seem to capture any of Kate's vibrant personality and does make her look older than her 31 years -- although I certainly wouldn't mind looking like that at age 60! :p The "Mona Lisa smile" is indeed much more like a smirk. When I saw a brief glimpse of it on TV, I thought why is Kate doing the "McKayla is not amused" face?!? Oh well, this is only the first official portrait -- one can hope that future ones are more flattering.
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  13. professordeb

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    I absolutely HATE the portrait. It just isn't the Kate we have come to know/admire/love. It's just one big whopping UGH!
  14. danceronice

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    Question: If the Commonwealth has agreed to the change in succession rules, have they also agreed to Cameron's proposal to rescind the Settlement Act provision that bars the heir from marrying a Catholic? Considering the heir is free to marry anyone else of any other religion or lack thereof, that one is as outdated as the male primogeniture laws.

    And of the subject of multiple titles and ranks, besides William using a lesser title, there's always that third rail of titles--Camilla is really entitled to be known as Princess of Wales and the only reason they don't use that one is the Diana-fanatics flip out over it.
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    Why does she have bags/dark circles under her eyes???? Did the artist hate her????
  17. Garden Kitty

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    That's what struck me too. I'd say the artist was trying to be "realistic" except I've never seen pics of her that look that bad.
  18. Jenny

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    Exactly. I've never seen her look anything but flawless, in a nice, natural and approachable way. If the artist wanted her to look "real" he should have worked harder on her smile, because that's what does it. In one squib I read that he changed the colour of her eyes to match her blouse, which is all fine and dandy if you are doing an interpretive image, but not if it's supposed to be a realistic portrait. The very idea that he thought he might improve her look! Centuries from now scholars will argue that this portrait was done when she was much older - although my bet is that she ages a lot more gracefully than this.

    Every time I look at that portrait, I hate it even more. :(
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    I don't like the portrait. She looks like she is smirking, not smiling, and her eyes look like she is glaring- as if she is plotting something, or mad. It just doesn't fit her personality at all.
  20. skatesindreams

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    This "official" portrait painter hardly seems an "artist" to me.
    He certainly didn't "serve" his subject.

    Is this person the best the UK has to offer?
  21. skatingfan5

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    Agreed. Here's what the artist had to say about it:
    I think the portrait is an epic fail at portraying an "enormously open, generous, and very warm person." And also an epic fail at representing her smile.
  22. Skittl1321

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    According to the article I read, they did a search and Kate was part of the committee that selected him. (It also said she "loved" the painting, but I can't imagine her saying anything else unless she was going to force them to destroy and redo it.)
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    Of course, she would say that, publicly.
    She's too tactful and well-bred to say anything else.

    I don't know if I could have "held my tongue"!
  24. Fergus

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    I once did a Google search for "Queen Elizabeth II paintings" and may I say there are some FUGLY paintings out there of the Royal Family made by artists from across the globe. :yikes:

    Ah, for the days of royal portraits by Philip de Lazslo!

    The one successful aspect of Catherine's painting is the hair. :)

    Maybe this is gonna sit in an attic and turn decrepit whilst HRH stays young and fresh forever. ;)
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  25. skatesindreams

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    Perhaps, it can be hidden behind a door in some Royal gallery, if it must be displayed.
  26. Alixana

    Alixana recovering Oly-holic

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    Hair looks great; skin looks good. But if that was my portrait, I'd make him re-do the baggy eyes and pursed lips. And I wouldn't pay for it!! :mad:
  27. Jenny

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    And I'd want my own eye colour. If he wanted it to match the blouse, why not change the blouse, instead of the woman?
  28. skatingfan5

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    I guess it's a good thing she wasn't wearing green or grey .... or red. :eek:
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    In exchange, the first child will be named Dorian. :p.

    I know the guy was trying for "natural" but what woman wants bags under her eyes even if she might have had them the day she sat for the picture? And why would he change her eye color to match her blouse?? I'm not impressed.
  30. nubka

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    I don't think the portrait is so awful. It does look like her. My only complaint is that it's just so drab and faded looking...
  31. AragornElessar

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    Did William and Kate pay for it to be done? I thought I'd read somewhere the National Portrait Gallery wanted an Official Portrait of their new Royal Patron and what better reason for Kate to sit for her first Official Portrait. I can't remember where I read that, but I could swear I did see that somewhere.

    While it's not knock it out of the park incredable, you do know who it is. It's just beyond a shame the artist aged her and also changed her eye colour. Considering Portrait are considered to be an accurate portrayal of a person.....I give it a C- Not a great painting of HRH, but not out and out fail either IMO.
  32. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa Port de bras!!!

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    :lol: But seriously I hate this portrait. It makes her look haggard and twice her age. Also, what's with the pursed lips? I've never seen her with that facial expression in photos or TV.
  33. AragornElessar

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    I think we need a bit of a pick me up. What better than to ogle..I mean look...at some gorgeous Tiaras!?!

    YouTube ~ European Royal and Imperial Jewels - Part 1: Tiara

    Don't see a Part 2 over there, but as this was put up a couple of weeks ago, I'm going to assume Part 2 is coming soon.

    However...The wonderful documentary that was made last year by a Danish (? not at all sure) company on the Jewels of the three Scandavian Monarchies has been made available to watch online again. So for those of us who never saw it last year, get ready to spend a very enjoyable few hours. :D

    De Kongelige Juveler Part One

    De Kongelige Juveler Part Two

    Don't worry about not understanding what's said, as for the most part, the Royals interviewed all speak English. The exception so far has been Prince Henrik, Prince Consort of Denmark and not sure why either. Oh well....

    It's been truly facinsating listening to CP Mary and Queen Margrethe of Denmark and Queen Silvia of Sweden speak about the respective pieces and the history of them. Just be warned though...Queen Silvia speaks w/quite the whistle in her speaking patterns. So if you have a problem w/sharp sounds, there's a heads up for you.

    Hope all of you enjoy watching these as much as I have. :)
  34. IceAlisa

    IceAlisa Port de bras!!!

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    After reading comments about the hair on the Duchess' portrait, I took another look--indeed the length of the hair is fairly well rendered but the rich golden brown fades the closer the hair gets to the scalp and...is this gray hair that has grown out about an inch or so? What is this, a joke? :scream: Or is the Duchess prematurely gray?
  35. Alixana

    Alixana recovering Oly-holic

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    That's some gorgeous jewelry .. if I had a tiara, I'd wear it to the grocery store even!

    Also, PML at Queen Louise of Bavaria wearing a crown AND big tiara .. a girl after my own heart! :glamor:
  36. Vagabond

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    I do believe it's the result of her hyperemesis gravidarum.

    She wouldn't be the first:

    My journey to hell and back: Hyperemesis Gravidarum

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  37. Jenny

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    Kate sat for the portrait in May and June last year, before she was pregnant, and he also used photographs as references, and I doubt any of those were taken when she was at her worst.
  38. my little pony

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    her expression makes me wonder if the studio was filled with onions and rotting fish
  39. skatesindreams

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    I find the "portrait" embarrassingly poor; so much so that I believe the painter should offer to try again.
    They should really find another artist; although I know that's not likely.
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    This ^^ And I would guess the photos used were taken at around the same time as the sittings.

    I was referring to the Kate in the portrait. :confused:
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