Royalty Thread #4 Nappies and Nuptials

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  1. Fergus

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    EUREKA! I've found something!!!!

    Recap of royal arrivals and the ceremony, via Belgian tv!!!

    Much like HMQ, I am a very happy queen. :biggrinbo
  2. PDilemma

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    I just came here to say that if I see one more snarky comment on Facebook that the Duchess is a spoiled rich woman and the poster or his spouse or his/her co-worker or brother's dogwalker had to go to work when they had morning sickness, I'm going to scream.

    This is not mere morning sickness and the stupid press is making her look bad by implying that it is.
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    The woman I know who had it decided to stop having children after the first pregnancy for exactly that reason.
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    Same with my sister; she had always wanted 3 or 4 children, but had pretty bad morning sickness with her first pregnancy and when the second one was many times worse (and of longer duration) she said that if she was carrying twins, she would have 3, but otherwise baby #2 was going to be the last for her.
  5. Reuven

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    When I first heard about the severity, I wondered if the Duchess would want to have another child. I had a cousin who went through this, she had triplets! Of course, if it’s twins, it’s a sort of once and done, eys?
  6. AragornElessar

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    THANK YOU!! Has been watched and bookmarked. :D :D :D

    The Canadian media's been pretty good about explaining this is *not* normal morning sickness. All of the digital newspapers have a related link to a story explaining just what this is and how it is so not what's expected. Same w/the stories I saw on the news last night.

    There is one member over at The Royal Forums that has been going on ...and on...and on about how they just can't understand why they announced exactly why Kate's been admitted, as they could have said she was suffering from the flu or whatever.

    Number one, this is one of the Kate bashers and I guess this was the only thing they could think up for an "attack". Second, why the others over there kept falling for this twit is beyond me.

    I mean, in this day and age it should be obvious why they announced the real reason for Kate's admit to hospital.

    Oh and a third is I have this member over there on Ignore, but thanks to the others falling for her/his crap, I had to wade through all of them quoting it in their responses.

    I mean...Really? I just don't get people like that.
  7. Anita18

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    Honestly, "severe morning sickness" is probably the most concise way to explain it. But NBC News pointed out that they have royal doctors who could help her - the fact that she was hospitalized should prove just how bad it is.

    I hope she feels better.
  8. PDilemma

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    Because of how hard it is to be admitted in our health care system, people seem to assume that her hospitalization is merely a convenience of wealth and position and not a matter of necessity. And the perception is that "severe morning sickness" means "like the morning sickness my (put friend or relative in the blank) had only kind of a little bit worse". One quote from my FB newsfeed: "What does that mean? She vomited twice instead of once yesterday morning?"

    I saw an article where an ob/gyn specialist talks about how she hopes this will make people more aware of this condition and its seriousness.
  9. AragornElessar

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    Carolyn Harris has put up quite the article over at her blog about the news and how it relates to Royal History...

    Carolyn Harris' Royal History Blog

    There's also a picture over there of the future Duke of Windsor being held after his Christening by his Great Grandmother Victoria and his Grandfather the future King Edward VII and Father the future King George V standing behind her.

    Oh and someone over at TRF mentioned this little one is also going to be a Jubliee Baby. If the guesses are right and this little one is due in June/July, then that's right around the time of HM's marking of the 60th Anniversary of her Coronation.

    We also have a Christening coming up IIRC. I don't think little Isla's been Christened yet, has she? I'd think we'd hear something about it if she had been. Since there's been nothing mentioned, I've been wondering if Peter and Autumn were waiting for Christmas when everyone would be together at Sandringham.
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    UK 2012 - the year that just keeps on giving :cheer2:
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    A Happy 85th Birthday today to HM King Bhumibol Adulyadej of Thailand. :) HM came to throne in 1946, 6 years before HMQ.

    Here is video of his Diamond Jubilee in 2006. At 3:25, the parade of royal guests begins, including HRH The Duke of York, TRH The Crown Prince & Crown Princess of Norway, and TIM The Emperor & Empress of Japan. Enjoy!
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    ^^^
    Good riddance!
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    I'd fire the DJs and the clueless nurse. Them for calling a hospital about someone's medical condition and the nurse for being that gullible. I mean really, wouldn't the Queen be calling someone a little higher up the chain of command for that kind of info? Or rather, call her grandson on his cell and ask him directly?!
  18. Jenny

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    I wouldn't blame the nurse entirely - it's the switchboard that put the call through, so the nurse must have thought the call was legit, and who's going to give the Queen a line about patient confidentiality?

    I'm glad there's outrage on this. It's one thing to joke around with celebrities, but another when someone is seriously ill and carrying a piece of history in the making. Respect and compassion is the order of the day.
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    Depending on the stringency of the privacy laws where you live, an employee could indeed be fired for revealing patient information depending on the severity of the breach and the policy at your hospital. Switchboards do their best to triage but they put through all kinds of calls to nursing stations .. it's up to unit clerks/nurses/whoever at the nursing station to triage the calls and provide info or not based on policy. I've had to tell family members of mentally ill individuals that I can't give them any scrap of information about their child/husband/wife, etc., without that person's written consent. It sucks to have to do that but that's the law in my area :(. Conversely, if I was a patient, I wouldn't want the nurses telling my business to everyone who called either.

    I think the arseholes are the people who placed the call in the first place. How would they like their family members' business spread all over the internet and on every news channel worldwide? :mad:

    (Can I say arsehole on FSU??)
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    Sure you can - it's almost an endearment around here. :D
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  21. AragornElessar

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    I was watching Anderson's daytime show and this was part of the First 15. Megan McCain was his Co Host and she was saying as someone who lived under Secret Service Protection for a portion of her life, no way would that happened in the US.

    Considering the screw up the Secret Service were outed for earlier this year, not so sure I'd be using them as your point of reference...Anyway...

    I also have a feeling not only will someone be fired over this, but that Radio Show in Australia will be getting a call from Will and Kate's Lawyers too.

    I would *not* have wanted to be around William when he heard about this happening...*shudder*

    eta ~ Just saw the story on this on Toronto CTV's Supper Hour cast and Edward and Sophie came to visit for a little while today. They also stopped to talk to the Press and Edward talks about a good friend of theirs went through this and they would not wish this on anyone.

    Nice to see some of the Family coming to visit. This also reinforces a hunch of mine if this is a little Princess, one of the names will be Sophie. We all read the stories about how Sophie helped out Kate during the Engagement and it was obvious during the Paralympics they enjoy each other's company and are close.

    If not, then the Countess will be a Godmother, but you read it here first. If it's a Princess, there will be some connection to Sophie in some way.

    Just a hunch though. :)
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  22. skatesindreams

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    I hope that the Duchess feels better and is able to be released from hospital, soon.
    All of the uproar can't make the situation easier for her.
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    They were not at the hospital, but rather outside an event they were attending today. They have not yet been to the hospital. Kate's parents have, though, as well as Pippa and James.
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    That's not how CTV spun it and I did think things didn't look quite right from the pictures of William leaving, but since I've never been to London and don't know the area...

    Thanks for the correction and setting things straight. :)
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    If the baby is a girl, I am betting the names Victoria & Elizabeth are going to be in there.

    Also, I think they'll stop at two names, like "normal" people.
  28. Jenny

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    Elizabeth absolutely. Just about all if not every first born girl in the current Royal Family has the name - gotta honour the reigning Queen :) Plus, it's Kate's middle name, and her mothers. Slam dunk I think.

    Personally, I'm banking on Charlotte Frances Elizabeth. Charlotte honours William's father, who will be the king as the child is growing up. Plus, it's a good royal name that will befit the future Queen of England, and as a bonus for Kate, it's her sister's middle name. Frances of course is a nice way to honour William's mother without it being blatant, and better yet, the male form is Kate's father's middle name, and his father's as well.

    I like the idea of getting Sophie in there, but have they really been that close? Plus she has no pedigree. Fine for a second child, but not for a future monarch. I think even as a godmother - can't recall who are William's and Harry's godparents, but I'm thinking the appointment is somewhat political, an honour bestowed, or am I wrong?

    If it's a boy, I'm not sure. I definitely see Charles of course as one of the names, but not first. I see Philip, especially as William's grandfather is very old and ailing, and it would no doubt please grandma. Plus again, Kate can take a little pride in it being her sister's name. But for the first name? The future King of England? Definitely a name that has already been king I think, but maybe something less used - John or Stephen perhaps.
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    I really doubt it would be John.
    William's godparents are:

    King Constantine II of Greece
    Princess Alexandra
    The Duchess of Westminster
    Lady Susan Hussey
    Lord Romsey
    Sir Laurens van der Post

    I don't see Pippa or Harry in line for that role. As someone said, the designations are somewhere political.

    I also don't see the Queen or Prince Charles agreeing to anything like just two names in order to be modern or nontraditional. Maybe when baby number two comes along. But not for the future sovereign. A modern monarchy does not mean a monarchy that abandons tradition. Elizabeth is a bit low on names (three). On the other end of the spectrum, her uncle Edward VIII (the Duke of Windsor) had seven.
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    Yeah, let's not go the way of the Duke of Windsor--I believe his great-granny named him and geez, she went overboard.

    Speaking of him, I'm willing to bet "David" is off the table as a name. I'm not certain the Queen ever entirely forgave him and that's the name used by the family.

    Though from that generation, while neither's hugely popular as a general-public baby name, George or Albert somewhere in a boy's name would be a nice nod to William's great-grandfather, and "George" is one of Charles's middle names.
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    I think George may well be on the short list for the first name for a boy. And I agree that Phillip is highly likely to be a middle name.

    They may branch out a bit more for a girl. Personally, I like Charlotte. I also wonder if Alexandra is a possibility. It is the Queen's second name and Victoria's actual first name was a variation of it (Alexandrina).
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    It would be nice if they could choose a somewhat unique first name and then add all the family names afterwards. It seems like there's been so many kings and queens named George, Phillip, Alexandra, Elizabeth, Victoria, etc.. Or, even if there was only one, they were pretty famous historically. This kid is going to be a future Monarch...it would be nice if they could have a name that will stand the test of time historically and not get muddled with anyone else's.

    But that is the opinion of this Britainically (is that even a word?) uneducated American. :p ;)
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    I don't agree. I think the nurse would be in more trouble, because she's the one who gave out details without checking who it was.

    There was a similar case a few years ago in Australia where some tv show pranksters from a show called 'The Chaser' imitated the Canadian motorcade and got through security. They were arrested, but the charges were thrown out of court because any reasonable policeman should have seen that they were obviously, and comically, frauds. It's the same here. They put on fake accents and were going on about Corgis - they never expected to be put through. Surely the hospital should have known the media would be calling? Their original statement clearly indicates damage control.

    It was also vetted by lawyers before being put on air.

    I totally agree that it was in poor taste and that the royals have every right to be furious, but fired? Legal action? Doubtful. The worldwide publicity is a dream for the radio station, it's not illegal and there's been no comment from the Palace, leading me to think they don't care as much as the rest of the media do :shuffle: A phone call the hospital should have anticipated isn't the same as nude photos taken and published without knowledge or consent.
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    Since I had to get up for a bathroom visit, decided to do a quick check of things and Kate has been discharged. She's back at Kensington Palace for "a period of rest".
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    Pix and video of their departure from the hospital.

    The poor dear! She looks sooo hungry. I just wanna hug them, they're too precious. :)
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    Glad that she's been released.

    As for the DJ fiasco, I don't blame the nurse that much either and hope she doesn't lose her job. It's not like she gave out much private info. Everyone knew why Kate was in there and what kind of treatment she received (IV) so it's not like what was given out wasn't already in the public domain. She passed an uneventful night. Hmmm, not much in that. I find that the receptionist who put the call through did the main damage since she is the first line of "defense" so to speak.

    I blame the DJs, but then they didnt' think they'd get through, so, can't really blame them either. It wasn't done maliciously, that's for sure.

    I remember when the Quebec DJs got through to the Queen, with all the staff thinking it was Jean Chretien, lol!!
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    Good point. Maybe she was so starstruck that the Queen was calling that she didn't stop to think. Family would probably have her mobile number... :lol:
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    InStyle is speculating that their outfits leaving the hospital are a sign - both wearing royal blue!
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