Revolution (Mondays on NBC) - Season One

Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by PeterG, Sep 25, 2012.

  1. Bostonfan

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    I think a lot of that had to do with the fact that the actors were never told what their characters history was in advance. So whenever they had a scene alluding to some deep, dark secret from their past, they were basically flying blind. Kate (I forget her name - Lily?) played those opening episodes with so much angst, that when she finally got her history revealed, it didn't measure up to the weight she had given it in the early episodes. I felt that was the case with many of the actors on LOST. It handicaps them in a very real way. I think the same will happen for the actors on Revolution if they are kept in the dark about their backstory in the overall narrative.

    I remember reading an interview that Alan Rickman gave where he said J.K. Rowling revealed to him (and only him) what Snape's story was all about. I'm sure that helped him immensely in the early movies to give a more nuanced performance.
  2. jeffisjeff

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    At least his character on Revolution is much more interesting that the wimpy "mirror."

    I am still holding out hope that Revolution can be like The Event, which got much stronger as it went along. Although not quick enough to save it from being cancelled. :wuzrobbed
  3. Wyliefan

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    I like her so far, but I'm only six episodes in. (Yes, I've finally been persuaded to watch "LOST"!)
  4. manhn

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    I loved Kate pretty much throughout the series. Unlike virtually every other show, it's hard to be overwhelmed by any one character. Given the structure of Lost, we may see only a few minutes of a main character over a stretch of episodes.
  5. Bostonfan

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    Don't be discouraged by any criticisms here. LOST was a fun show. The key is to just enjoy the ride. That's where the real joy in LOST comes from. Every fan takes something different from the series, and have affinity for certain characters. (For me, it was Jin/Sun)

    Sorry to divert from the thread topic!
  6. PeterG

    PeterG Argle-Bargle-ist

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    I liked everyone on Lost. :( One day I will buy the box set of the series. And maybe post an ad on craigslist and get a bunch of Losties to get together every week and watch a few epsiodes! :D

    :wuzrobbed That's another one I gave up on! I did hang in there for about six episodes, but it just wasn't moving very quickly. Lost had such well-written characters (which in itself was enough for me) but they were also people I wanted to spend time getting to know better. Add to that, there were always a few !!!! moments every episode that almost made it must-view watching.

    I, for one, would be happy if you talked about Lost in any thread that you like. :D
  7. Artemis@BC

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    Technically, only Revolution is post-apocalyptic. There was a war in the backstory of The Hunger Games world, but no apocalypse. The Hunger Games world is certainly dystopian, but the world of Revolution may or may not be classified as dystopian. Frontier lifestyle and statocratic rule does not necessarily = dystopia.
  8. manhn

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    One of my small pleasures when watching any new shows with these big, sprawling casts is recognizing actors from previous shows. Such as: Hey--the pilot from Pan Am! Hey--Jacob from Lost!

    This show is not exactly good but it's fun and the plot is moving forward. I also think the actress playing Charlie is being unfairly maligned like Alyssa Czisney.

    It seems like every new show these past few seasons have to have a SHOCKING! death early in its run in order to show that "no one is safe". I haven't found one death actually helping the show. But iwouldn't mind seeing Charlie's brother dead.

    Lastly, where are the gay folks? This show needs gay people.
  9. PeterG

    PeterG Argle-Bargle-ist

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    Gays are only allowed on sitcoms. And reality TV. But never dramas. Who's ever heard of dramatic gays???
  10. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    ugh, sad to note that someone will get killed next week and you just know it won't be Charlie or Danny :mad:

    Other than that gigantic flaw, the show is getting a lot more interesting.
  11. Spareoom

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    Probably Google guy, because he's outlived his usefulness by giving stepmom the tech thingie?
  12. Matryeshka

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    But the war was the result of an ecological/environmental disaster. The coasts were swallowed up. So Hunger Games qualifies as apocalyptic.
  13. my little pony

    my little pony snarking for AZE

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    i enjoy google guy so you have a good chance of being right
  14. Jimena

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    This episode was better than the first two. Still, Charlie is way too annoying. She's just not a good actress.
  15. mtnskater

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    I gave Revolution 3 episodes and I'm done too. This show is so dark and violent.....a real downer. And who needs that in this day and age? I sure don't! I deleted it from my DVR timers after watching tonight.

    I LOVE good science fiction and apocalyptic scenarios. But almost none are good anymore. The only one I liked in recent memory was Jericho. Writers should take a page from Star Trek. The reason it was so popular because it had a hopeful/optimistic view of the future.
  16. PRlady

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    Me too. I loved Kate, especially with Sawyer, what an interesting relationship between two not-so-nice but fascinating people. Then Kate got all mommyesque raising Claire's kid and so much of her time was spent on a love triangle, and she got less interesting.

    I like Charlie. :shuffle: I caught up with the last Revolution two episodes last night and it's certainly enough to keep me interested although too violent for my taste. There are lots of unanswered questions, and key one is from Miles: How did everything fall apart so fast? I think there's a real answer to that somewhere.

    And I'm very fond of Google Nerd who is back to getting wedgies from Fate, he's interesting.
  17. BigB08822

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    I decided I was done when the woman turned on the damn iPhone.
  18. star_gazer11

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    It's supposed to be 15 years since they lost power, right? The phone battery held a charge that long? :p
  19. HeatherC

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    I think that pendent thing has more power to it than we give it credit for because that walk/disc man thing shouldn't have worked either unless those batteries in it were EXTRA super charged after fifteen years, LOL :lol:

    I'm still enjoying this show overall and I'm constantly wondering what's going to happen next which is more than enough to keep me coming back every week for now. :)
  20. Matryeshka

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    See, and one of the problems I have with it is it's not dark enough. I think they were trying to split the difference to appeal to everyone and it ended up a mess.
  21. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    yeah, I don't think the show is anywhere near dark enough. And I'm tired of seeing the ladies wearing perfectly fitted skinny jeans - which, inventory issues aside, I just don't think women would be wearing 15 years into a post-electricity civilization. Especially not one who was 4 or whatever when the blackout happened.
  22. Japanfan

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    I think the idea is that people are still scavenging from clothes made before the black-out. Department stores were left with stock and jeans were scavenged off dead people. And people are very frugal with stuff made before the black-out. Skinny jeans were in at the time of the black-out, hence the skinny jeans.

    Or that is the premise of other 'after the black-out and government melt-down' post-apocalyptic tales.

    Doesn't hurt either that the women in the show have perfect bodies for skinny jeans.
  23. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    but bodies would not fit the existing clothing exactly the way they do now.

    And from what we've seen of the immediate post-blackout world, people weren't exactly carefully catalogueing textiles to make them last for infinity - it was a mad scramble for survival, and it looks like people got out of the cities as quickly as possible focusing on food, not clothes. It just stretches credibility beyond suspension-of-belief level that these clothes would look and fit like someone wearing them today.

    It just bugs me that even in a post-apocalyptic world, the most important thing on tv is for women to be fashionable and "sexy".
  24. Japanfan

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    Why not? People are likely to be leaner and more fit if they live an agrarian, subsistence lifestyle as they do on the job.

    I do get your point. But are all the women fashionable and sexy? The only one I noticed in skinny jeans with abs showing was Charley.
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  25. BaileyCatts

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    :duh: That's who that guy was! Just watched my tape tonight and it was driving me crazy trying to remember where I knew him from. :lol:

    I also want to know how the world fell apart so quickly after the blackout. I mean, the tag said it was only 8 weeks later, didn't it? I don't think the military would have fallen apart in 8 weeks (unless I didn't see the tag line correct and it was much longer?). And how Miles and Sebastian and Jacob-from-Lost Guy ended up being the leaders of the Militia! I'm going to guess that in the beginning, they started to form a group that was really meant to protect people who were just trying to get by from the thugs, but somehow it get all effed up.

    Please don't let Google Guy get dead. I like him. :p And please NBC, don't cancel this show until we get some answers! I hate it when they do that.
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  26. PeterG

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    I didn't see that, but it must have meant eight weeks after the previous scene that was shown. The larger story takes place fifteen years after the blackout.
  27. BaileyCatts

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    If you blinked you missed it. :) It was only up a few seconds. When they were doing the flashback scenes with Miles and Sebastian (the one at the Base and the one where they came across the slain couple), they flashed a tag at the bottom of the screen that said "Two Weeks After the Blackout" and "Eight Weeks After the Blackout", or something to that affect. The segment where they were walking to Chicago, that's when they flashed that tagline on the screen that I think said it was 8 weeks later, and Miles made the comment about how did everything fall apart so fast.
  28. Spareoom

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    Well, we still don't know what caused the blackout. It appears to be man-made, and if it was done on purpose then it's possible that people high up had been orchestrating the fall of civilization for a long time and the power going out was only part of a very long string of events. I doubt Monroe is acting completely alone; I bet he has someone that he answers to. Someone who has power, probably.
  29. talulabell

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    I've only seen the first two episodes (3 is still in the dvr). As far as I could tell, she didnt turn the iPhone on. She carries it because it has the only pics/videos/memories of her kids (and she has no way to view them). Just staring at the phone, knowing there in there, is all she has.

    Also, what is the walk/dic man thing? I dont remember seeing that. Unfortunately, I deleted the episodes as soon as I watched them.
  30. BaileyCatts

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    ^ You will see what they mean when you watch episode 3. :)
  31. PeterG

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    I got this from the library a few days ago and I've almost finished the first season. It's amazing, so much better than Revolution! :respec:
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    Yeah.. sure enough... lol... I thought what I was reading was pre-epi3, but guess not. I was working overnight on a system change (which means lots of waiting for things to run) so I got to watch episode 3 at about 4:00 this morning. So, does that thing actually generate power? I mean, if Grace (?) can power up the worlds oldest computer with it, then an iPhone and a discman should be no problem.

    So I'm guessing Miles and Monroe started a militia together with the good intentions of stopping thugs like those two guys, and Miles didnt like where Monroe was taking it, so he took off to live incognito in some once-fancy hotel, tending bar? Where does the liquor come from? I'm thinking, no power, most would have been consumed in the first few years.
  33. manhn

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    :fragile::wuzrobbed:fragile::wuzrobbed

    Yes, I teared up over the death. Dammit.
  34. genevieve

    genevieve drinky typo pbp, closet hugger Staff Member

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    That was a nice episode for Maggie - I wish we had gotten a bit more of her and less of Danny and The Tornado. But I have to confess I'm glad it was her and not GoogleNerd.

    Nice to see that Charlie was always that whiny and snivelling - but man, that kid looks so much like older Charlie that I wouldn't be surprised if the actresses are sisters themselves.

    Poor Giancarlo Esposito - he's throwing everything he has into his performance and all he has to work with is the Peeta reject :lol:

    Backstory continues to intrigue; Charlie continues to annoy ;)
  35. Japanfan

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    You don't need any power to brew alcohol, it's been around for centuries. So I guess the assumption is that people are brewing their own booze. But having bottles remaining from pre-blackout does seem unlikely.

    There are things that could/should be happening in the absence of electricity as well - steam power being the first that comes to mind.
  36. professordeb

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    Darn it ... I keep trying to find this show on Monday night's and am batting zero! I saw the first episode and since then - nadda. Ticks me off. I know it's on some channel somewhere but drats if I can find it.
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    The preview for next week's episode has me rolling my eyes. If they can steam punk a working train, then surely the more powerful guys would have some of the very simple cars that didn't rely on electronic gadgetry to work. There would be entire enclaves of VW fans with working cars.
  38. centerstage01

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    I think I'm done with this one. I went into it expecting one thing and ended up with something else. I simply cannot believe that in 15 years with no electricity, civilization would have collapsed so thoroughly. Mankind made it for thousands of years without electricity, why now would they lack the ability to carry on??

    Also, I can't stand the lead actress playing Charlie. One minute she's hell-bent for leather wanting to take on the militia and the next she's looking at someone with anime eyes trying to be coquettish and girly. Her facial expressions alone make me wish she was the next one offed.
  39. jeffisjeff

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    I must be the only one who would expect a very rapid demise of government, civil society, etc., if all power were suddenly lost. The fact that people lived without power for thousands of years and were just fine is completely irrelevant. It is about what has been lost, it is about what we are used to, it is about our complete dependence on power for everything.
  40. BaileyCatts

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    Finally caught up with Episode 4. Even with how kinda quick it was, Maggie's death was :wuzrobbed. I didn't really think about the aspect of her situation .... whatever land mass you were on at the time of The Blackout, that's it. If you were in America but lived in Europe, you will never see your family again. Sure you can walk from Cali to NY, but you can never get back across the ocean. Although .... wouldn't yatchs with sail's still work? :shuffle: Or would a sailboat never make it across the ocean like that?

    And :mad: that my least favorite actress is now going to be on the show. Just read it in TV Guide. Hated her in every show I watch she's been in, so I'm sure I'll hate her here.

    And gold stars go out to the Casting Department! The actress who plays a young Charlie is totally believable as that being Charlie! She looked exactly like her!