Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by Bostonfan, Jun 18, 2012.
The ABC site should have it
Hulu will have it up approximately 24-ish (normally less) hours after it airs. It's how I've been watching But Hulu's been super irritating for me recently. Don't know if it's me or China or if it's Hulu, but I'd check out both ABC and Hulu and see which works better.
I'm all about some Emaiden. She's the only one she's had chemistry with, and honestly, she's done/been through so much, how the hell could she possibly pick up and play happy houses with Jack? And I don't think she could ever be a Grayson. EVER.
Aiden is smarter, hotter, and is the only one we've seen on this show that (so far) understands Emily. I have to say, I'm not a huge fan of lurrrve quadrangles, but after the first couple of episodes, bringing on this character makes a lot of sense to me. Plus, it gives us nifty Emily backstory.
I'm all for Nomily. Nolan is the one guy she can trust
I would never believe Nolan and Emily. It just doesn't work at all. They feel like siblings too me and I would be seriously squicked if they got together.
i love them like siblings, i wish she would just accept that the universe (and mlp!) wants them to be together platonically and be nicer to him.
That too. He doesn't deserve the abuse she gives him and it's getting old. Like, she continually compromises her revenge-y plans for the likes of Jack and Daniel, but she won't let Nolan, who is a truly awesome friend and has been working with her fabulously from the very beginning and loves her so very much, in at all? Irritating. I mean, yeah, she's had a few moments where she clearly cares about him, but they're few and far between and mostly she just uses him and then tosses him aside with no thank you like a wet rag.
I like Emanda & Aiden too. He's totally hot and definitely understands her way better than anyone else. I also like her and Nolan's sibling like relationship. I don't have siblings myself but isn't it normal for siblings to not always get along but totally have each other's backs? That sounds like Nolan and Emanda for sure. This show is SO good and so much fun. I can't wait to see what happens next!
She did say to save the baby, but didn't say "before me."
Ahhh, the coma - favorite of TV writers everywhere.
Coco beat me to it, but yes, she said save the baby to Emily, when she was on the stretcher being put into the ambulance.
I sometimes think, that she keeps him at arms length because she cares about him. Not, initially, since she really didn't know who he was. But, after she learned about Nolan's relationship to her father and realized his true desire to help her, I think she worries that if he gets too involved he might get hurt or killed. I love the sibling relationship, and yes sibs can be
The Declan/Jack saga is truly awful. I can't sum up any interest in the agenda of that guy who is working with the kid who brought Declan to steal things. I suppose it's possible it falls into the larger narrative, but it's clunky writing. I also feel like the Nolan/Padma relationship was rushed (although I LOL when the box collapsed just when he went in for this kiss).
I wasn't wowed by this episode. But I still like the soapiness aspect of the main story. And I like the ongoing questions:
1) What was in the frame that Padma picked up that made her stop and stare at it? I didn't catch it.
2) Has Amanda's mother been aware of where Fauxmanda is all this time? Or are we supposed to believe she hasn't bothered searching until now? And WTF with trying to keep young Amanda under the water? Victoria says the mother wanted to kill Amanda? We know WHM tried to kill Emily (and knew that Emily was the real Amanda Clark), but did WHM ever tell the mother about "Emily" before he went missing?
Things that make you go hmmmm
it looked like it was a framed check. like when he started his business he wrote his father a check for the start up costs or something but i didnt catch the amt
It was from David Clarke.
And Emanda's mother did try to kill her. That's what she was trying to remember underwater in the first episode this season and what Victoria told fauxmanda before she did a header off the balcony.
I'm getting downton & revenge confused, wondering if Mrs. Hughes will bring a wet nurse for Jack and Fauxmanda's baby. LOL!
And is it me or did Emanda's acting skills totally improve this year?
I think so too. Maybe she is just better at playing a nicer person
I thought it was implied. She told Emily "Whatever happens, they have to save the baby. Make sure they save the baby". Emily replied "Everything is going to be fine" and Amanda just gave her the ear piece and said "take this". I thought it was pretty clear Amanda wanted the baby saved over her?
This. David Clarke gave Nolan the money to start up the company. That's why the cheque was framed. Also, MommyKara did try to kill Emily, as Victoria said and as Emily remembered right at the end.
One question though. How did Aiden end up back at Emily's place? And also...am I the only one who doesn't feel she has any chemistry with Aiden at all? I'm not a Jack shipper either, but I don't feel it with Aiden.
I can't believe I missed Revenge live so I could watch Hanyu strip on the ice! This episode was AMAZING! Also, that bit with Declan and Charlotte? So touching.
You know Padma is totally a cold-stoned bitch. I mean, she didn't go back to see her dying mom because of a job *interview*?
It is a interesting turn of events to find that Emanda's mother tried to kill her, and WHM tried to do the same. I get the feeling that mother lost track of Amanda long ago, and sprung into action upon hearing that she was in danger - or rather that she was alive perhaps. That scene at the hospital bed was beyond creepy - is she there to take care of her and make up for past sins, or to finish her off for good?
If so, she's either completely nuts, or there's a reason for it - perhaps Emanda is not David's daughter after all, but rather the child of someone mother thinks is eville, and of course the first thought there is Conrad.
As for the Jack/Declan story, x1000. Jack was supposed to be a hero in this - a good guy, but not a boring stupid guy. Ditto Declan - a good guy, someone young and stupid, but not THAT stupid.
And for Nolan - I was liking getting to know NolCorp, but they've suddenly decided he's completely in love with Emily, which I don't like - I'm for the sibling relationship that worked so well last season - just to make him vulnerable to whatever Padma's up to - which is clearly something to do with David Clarke now. She's given Emily a few looks that might have been simple rivalry, but now may be that she has an idea of who Emily really is. Remember that as CFO you'd be privy to who the shareholders are, and Amanda Clarke has a 49% interest in NolCorp (or maybe Emily Thorne does, which would still lead Padma to wonder why this woman has such a huge interest in the company, and she could easily put 2+2 together - especially now that she knows that David Clarke was actually an early *investor* in the company and therefore his heirs might retain a significant interest).
I don't like that Nolan, who is capable of finding out anything about anyone very easily, hired Padma for such a crucial position in his company - one privy to everything and with a great deal of power - without any checking whatsoever.
I would think it was plausible that she never looked for Amanda. She was told by the WHM and Victoria that Amanda was being cared for or taken care of by someone else. At this point we have no idea how long it took Kara to go from being held prisoner by WHM until the point where they trusted each other. Whatever happened in the years since she left the hospital and was found at the motel more than likely put into her mind that she was living a new life away her daughter - whether she was told a lie by WHM or if she decided to let that part of her life go.
As for the WHM telling her about Emily, I'm thinking no. He doesn't seem to have told anyone what he knew. I'm guessing he was holding onto that information for leverage.
I thought it was her Grandmother? I missed my grandfather's funeral because I was on the other side of the world. It happens.
I don't know that Nolan is in love with Emily, is he? I thought he was just upset that she continually freezes him out. Padma is jealous because she thinks Nolan was with Emily, from his introduction of 'my Emily' to thinking they were living together rather than he just stayed for a couple of nights.
But yes, she surely has to know sooner or later that Emily owns nearly half the company! Unless she's a silent partner, but even so...
Does anybody else wonder what these people do when they are not at the summer house? How they get along, who they have problems with, who dies, etc.? You'd think they'd never go back to the Hamptons since that's where all the bad stuff happens.
Isn't that why Nolan sold his house there?
I think a great strength of the show is that it is SO ridiculous and unlikely, and yet we don't get hung up on it. We embrace it!
It wouldn't surprise me that Amanda's mom hasn't been searching for her. After all, she did try to kill her daughter. She doesn't strike me as the loving motherly type. She might have been happy starting a life of her own and convinced herself that Amanda is better off without her. Of course, I think part of her still cares and that is why she ran to the wrong Amanda's bedside upon hearing about her accident. I wonder if she will see "Emily" any time soon? You would think a mother would recognize her daughter, even if she is all grown up now.
I just started watching this show and quickly caught up via netflix and hulu and I'm hooked. Yes, it's ridiculous. But I love it.
Did they name the baby Carl??!
Amanda's mom totally creeps me out but I think that's how it's supposed to be.
I know, I know-it's addicting. I got hooked this summer watching reruns.
"Do you gag a little when you say that? Honestly?"
i'm holding out hope he gets a nickname or something
what's the significance of Amily's back? Treadwell seemed to have picked up something.
Amanda needs to save Nolcorp or I'll be pissed. Nolan doesn't deserve to lose control of his company.
Ah. But how does Treadwell know?
Amily and Emanda on the porch was really, really good, and I'm so glad the writers on this show don't drag things out. We do need to keep Emily somewhat human.
Curses, Frankenstorm! They were showing stupid weather reports at 9:00, then joined Revenge "in progress". It was only the first few minutes, but still! Hope I didnt miss anything.
Treadwell interviewed Amanda when she was young. Perhaps she told him about it/showed him? I wonder what's in that folder.
I am very confused about who's on whos side. The Initiative, the FBI? they talk like they were on the same team, but certainly not now.
Edited to clarify: Mommy Clark, Victoria, Conrad... they talk like they were on the same side, but it's obvious they arent now (or at least, they dont trust eachother).
And someone mentioned Mommy Clark being held captive by WHM... is that true? or is that something that MC told Victoria? Or am I more confused than I originally thought?
Aiden probably provided Treadmill with the contents of that folder.
I have to admit I liked that moment between Emily and Amanda. The show needs at least one close female relationship.
I hate that Aiden is conspiring with Daniel to take control of Nolcorp. Yay for Emily for saying NO WAY!
The history of Kara and the WHM is still a mystery. She left the mental hospital with him, presumably to be killed. However, at some point he decided she was worth more to him alive than dead.
Fast forward to modern day and she is in love with him and according to Aiden - married to him.
So the question is when did she fall in love with him. Was it an act on his part? Her part? Is it a case of Stockholm Syndrome or did she really get to know him? How much did he trust her and vice versa? Obviously he didn't tell her everything, as she is not aware that Emanda is actually her daughter, David's innocence in the terrorist act, the WHM killing David, etc. If she is aware, she's doing a good job of hiding it.
As Jen said above, it was her grandmother, not her mother. And IIRC correctly, Padma already had the new job, it wasn't just an interview, and it was said as "your grandmother caught a bad flu" not "your grandmother is dying." So based on that incident alone, I don't think it was cold or bitchy.
However there is something questionable there. Did she investigate the Grayson Inc. & David Clarke just to show her initiative, to try to impress Nolan? Or is she working for someone else? I really hope the former, even if it was stupid. I can't say I love the character, but Nolan deserves some relationship happiness, even if it is shortlived.
I'm pretty sure this is the first time we've heard that Emily sold her shares in Nolcorp, though. It makes sense in retrospect, though: she'd be far more involved in his business if she did still have a 49% interest.
I don't know enough about corporate law to know if the Graysons' claim on Nolcorp is legit. If they did have an exclusivity clause with Clarke (which I'm assuming they do), surely they'd have cause to go after Clarke and any profits he made (and therefore Emanda, as his beneficiary). Even if Emanda sold the shares, surely any claim Grayson Inc had would still be on that parcel of money, wherever it is now, not on Nolcorp? Which would mean that Emanda is more in jeopardy here than Nolan.
And what the hell is Aiden up to, pointing out Clarke's involvement to Daniel? Is he trying to ruin Emanda or Nolan financially? Or just trying to get Daniel to trust him?
I can't say I'm thrilled about this whole financial angle on the story ... but at least it's better than the eye-rolling saga of the Porters.
I love that idiot Daniel immediately grasped the significance of David Clark investing his personal money in NolCorp while he still worked for GG.
Or is she working on her own behalf? My first thought, last week when she found the check, was that she knew someone who was on the plane that the terrorists blew up.
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