Discussion in 'Off The Beaten Track' started by Bostonfan, Jun 18, 2012.
PML score one for Conrad.
I was confused about Declan. He previously just agreed to hold stuff for the other kid, but this episode shows him actually stealing stuff?
I'm confused how Victoria's admission will make the family more popular and stronger than ever in the public eye. I mean, what animal shelter would want David Clarke's illegitimate daughter as a volunteer?
Conrad is so fun!
Because everyone loves a redeemed sinner. She's suffered, being kidnapped and tortured, and has "paid her dues" for her transgressions with David Clarke, and can be reborn as part of America's Beloved Royal Family. How much more Kennedy-esque can you get?
I like Aedhan. He and Emanda have some chemistry. Hopefully he's not the one who dies in the boat.
Yeah, that came out of nowhere and seems illogical and trite for the story line. I really hope they drop it and try to let us forget it happened. They went too far off the wall with that.
is that whole family intent on setting up declan or having jack owe them something? seemed weird. not good weird. more get me back to the main story these people are as compelling as oatmeal weird.
ITA. This was a weird shift that they didn't explain at all.
Other random thoughts:
Victoria: "She's your half sister, if that" (Hmmm)
I don't know if it was my TV, but I couldn't catch any of Ashley's lines during the press conference.
I hate it when Emily pushes Nolan away. Loved his trying to introduce Emily. She's "my Emily". But seriously, how could a CFO not know Emily's name knowing that she owns 49% of the stock in Nolan's company?
I think Emily's fetal position stare wasn't just that she was hearing her mom's voice. But instead realizing that her mother loved WHM (I refuse to call him Gordon) and Emily is indirectly responsible for his death. Not going to bode well if they ever end up trying to bond.
I wasn't expecting to see her mother in the Hamptons managing a motel. I'm definitely curious to learn more about her backstory.
Is Daniel finally learning to play the game? He certainly took Emily's advice about trying to play the game better than his mother.
What was in the modified diary that set Charlotte off? Another mystery.
Is it Sunday yet?
Didn't get that either, definitely a Hmmm moment!
Me too, it wasn't your TV. She also said something to Emily, right after the press conference, which I think was important, and I played back and still couldn't figure out what she said.
I think she's pushing him away, right now, to protect him. This was the second time that he was almost hurt/killed and I think she wants to keep him safe. And I loved the introduction!
Agree about her stare. One would hope, though, that "mom" would not be happy that WHM was trying to kill her daughter. It may be that she was told that her daughter was dead or that they didn't know where she was. WHM would do that.
Daniel has the potential to become a much more interesting character!
LOve this show!
I thought it was just Victoria's voicing her suspicions/doubts about "Amanda" perhaps not really being who she is claiming to be. Or that it could have been her hinting that David Clarke maybe was not Amanda's father.
Yes, we don't know what is floating around Victoria's scheming mind.
I'm normally sympathetic to the protagonist, but the whole lying to Fauxmanda about the paternity test is pretty evil. Understandable, but evil nevertheless.
i'm hoping that the baby is asian
Random question. Do the rich folk live in the Hamptons year round? I always thought it was a summer spot. The Graysons at least seem to live there the whole year
I think Daniel is already a significantly more interesting character, with way more potential, than Jack. I wish they'd just get rid of Jack. Emily's relationship with Daniel has so much more potential conflict, and I think the two actors have a lot more chemistry. I've never felt even remotely invested in Jack/Emily.
I'm almost to the point of getting rid of Jack, Declan, and Fauxmanda. They do not advance the story. Yes, real Amanda was in love with Jack, but that's not happening now. Let him sail off with Fauxmanda and their baby, take Declan with them so he won't get killed after robbing people's houses, and end that storyline. There's enough going on that they aren't necessary anymore.
Isn't the baby really Jack's though? I thought she just lied to her when she said that it wasn't.
Pleaaaase make Fauxmanda GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !
No. It's summer again and that's why they're back and Nolan doesn't have his previous lease.
No, I don't think it is. She told Emanda that she'd slept with someone else and was worried. She arranged for the fake paternity test for her to give to Jack. Knowing the truth gives her the leverage she needs.
I thought Nolan said he sold his house.
Typically it's a summer house. But last season we saw that they stayed there through Thanksgiving anyway. But I think the idea was that it was an unusual occurrence for them because of Daniel's incarceration. This season picked up at Memorial Day, the start of the summer season.
I'm used to Madeline Stowe being fabulous with her sweet smiles, but I thought the actor playing Conrad was brilliant this ep - thanks in large part to some great lines they gave him!
Paraphrasing, but I loved it when Daniel brought in the passport and he waves him off with "your propensity for gullibility is the least of our challenges right now."
And then when he announced his remarriage to Victoria? Classic!!
Last week I thought it came out of nowhere - deleted scenes from an old OC script, and yes there was a HUGE jump to Declan actually breaking, entering and stealing from last week's hold the stash which was
But further in, I think we see what's really going on here. Good guy Jack and vulnerable Declan are being set up by creepy "come to my house" guy.
All I can say is this better tie back to the rest of the story or I'm FFing through this one.
Last season I was tentatively supportive of the Declan/Charlotte storyline as I thought they represented a more innocent parallel to all the stuff their older siblings and parents were doing, but it seems that with the drug abuse and now this, we are going off track somewhat - perhaps in an effort to get the younger viewers who used to watch OC?
(I mention OC several times because the creator/writer of Revenge used to write for OC.)
I had issues too - had to go back and crank the volume several times, and there are still a few lines I didn't catch.
You know that the actors playing Emily and Daniel are together in RL, right?
It's Jack's, and aside from being sad about it, Emily would rather Amanda think it's not so that she has something to hold over her.
Yes - he said something about the trauma there (WHM, the talented Mr Hamptons) and wanting to move on. Plus it's a plot device to get him in Emily's house. And maybe budget cuts - that was a helluva set!
The Graysons have mentioned a place in the city, and given that Conrad's been using it as a place to take his girlfriends, Victoria likes the Hampton's better - I think she even said something at one point about not wanting to go to the city or preferring the summer house or something. And didn't they talk about it in the divorce proceedings too - having several places - maybe even one more for skiing somewhere?
Victoria has never believed that Amanda is Amanda. She's also never trusted Emily. She's fairly close to making the connection, IMO...
I would agree with you that she's very distrustful. I'm sure she knows something is not quite right, but can't put her fingers on just what that is yet. Emanda has been at too many places that are just too convenient for her to totally believe her.
However, while people may suspect that Emanda is not who she says she is, the whole scheme is a bit too out there for people to fully grasp it. The amount of background and cooperation that she has had to do to make it all work is pretty incredible. So I can see Victoria believing that something is off but not really grasping the full extent of it.
ITA. I think once she finds out, she won't be wholly surprised because she knows there's something wrong. She just doesn't know what it is. She's known there was something odd about Emily from fay 1 though, remember she got Frank to do a background check? She had no reason to be suspicious then. Now, she's got a lot
In my mind this show is really about Emily vs Victoria, bitter enemies, but also very much alike and thus equal adversaries. Emily may be the good vs Victoria's evil, but the further we get into the story the more that line blurs. I can already see what started as a show that could have been called Emily's Revenge is much broader than that now, and certainly Victoria's got both the motives and capacity for revenge herself. Just not the ninja skills
Ninja skills make all the difference!
Emily is evil. Telling Amanda the baby wasn't Jack's...dark and twisty, as Nolan said. I thought it was pretty interesting contradict this to the flashback of her relationship with Aiden, and show how she has toughened up since he left. It's unusual to see a flashback or even a current scene with Emily showing genuine compassion.
I love this show. I really hope it doesn't jump the shark!
I still hope that at some point Victoria and Emily join together and become Team HBIC. In a lot of ways they were screwed by the same people. And God, that could be so epically awesome.
Did I miss something? I didn't think we were given a definite answer on that.
Yeah, you missed it. Emily showed Nolan the real paternity results that proved Jack's the baby daddy, and the fact that she told Amanda differently.
Thanks, I don't remember that. I was really tired when I watched that night. We had an engagement party for my daughter that day. Should re-watch it.
Anyone watching? That was crazy what happened to Amily.
This whole episode is
did you hear fauxmanda actually say to save the baby ahead of her?
No, but it would be convenient for her to be dead.
This episode has been crazy intense.
I'm not reading any spoilers, but just popping in to say that this is my new favorite show on tv. Is it possible to see new eps online? I only have Netflix for it.
am I the only shipping Emanda and Aiden?
no, he's a much better partner for her than jack or the insipid fiance who is coming along but not that quickly
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