Retrospective: The 1983 World Championships

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  1. Maofan7

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    Retrospective moves on to the 1983 World Championships.

    The key facts in relation to these championships are:-

    • For the second year running, Scott Hamilton and Norbert Schramm finish first and second respectively. This was Hamilton's third consecutive world title
    • Brian Orser medals at Worlds for the first time, winning bronze
    • Rosalynn Sumners wins the world title. The previous year she had suffered the misfortune of sustaining an injury shortly before the start of the 1982 World Championships which left her with little time to prepare. Consequently, she had finished 6th. However, she put in a commanding performance to win the 1983 Worlds winning both the compulsories and the free skating sections (she finished 4th in the short program). A year later, in 1984, Sumners loaned out her medals to a local bank for display. However, when the bank was taken over, the medals were lost. Fortunately, around 20 years later (in 2004) they were found again in a safe deposit box.
    • Katarina Witt finished outside of the medals despite winning the SP and finishing 2nd in the FS, on account of a disastrous performance in the school figures in which she finished 8th. Had there been no compulsories section, then her combined SP and FS would have won her the world title, just as her combined SP and FS in the 1982 World Championships (in which she finished 2nd) would have won her that world title as well.
    • Elaine Zayak had to withdraw from the championships due to injury after having only completed 2 of the 3 compulsory figures (New York Times Report Here). Accordingly, she was unable to defend the world title she had won at the 1982 championships. Sadly, she would never again reach the heights she had achieved in 1982 as problems with her foot (part of which she lost in a lawn mower accident) would cause her more and more problems in the school figures
    • Elena Valova & Oleg Vasiliev win the first of their three world titles. They would ultimately become Olympic champions in 1984 and would undoubtedly have won further world titles and a second Olympic title in 1988 had they not run up against the formidable Gordeeva & Grinkov.
    • Just as Scott Hamilton won his third consecutive world title at these championships, so did the brilliant Torvill & Dean with their superb Barnum free dance. They had got the idea for the program the year before when they went to see Michael Crawford performing in the Barnum musical at the London Palladium. Their performance in these championships was especially impressive in light of the fact that they had to withdraw from the European Championships only weeks earlier due to an injury sustaining fall in practice to Jayne Torvill. However, she recovered in time for Worlds and with Michael Crawford looking on in the audience, their Barnum program was immaculate - they were awarded a perfect nine 6.0's for artistic impression (i.e. a 6.0 from every Judge). Earlier in the competition, they had been given six 6.0's for their Rock n'Roll OSP

    Here are the videos for the medal winning performances:-

    MENS

    Gold: Scott Hamilton - USA

    Free Skate

    Free Skate - 2nd Video

    Silver: Norbert Schramm - West Germany

    Free Skate

    Bronze: Brian Orser - CAN

    Free Skate

    6th: Brian Boitano

    Free Skate

    LADIES

    Gold: Rosalynn Sumners - USA

    Free Skate

    Free Skate - 2nd Video

    Silver: Claudia Leistner - West Germany

    Free Skate

    Free Skate - 2nd Video

    Bronze: Elena Vodorezova - USSR

    Free Skate

    4th: Katarina Witt

    Short Program

    Free Skate

    PAIRS

    Gold: Elena Valova & Oleg Vasiliev - USSR

    Long Program

    Silver: Sabine BaeƟ & Tassilo Thierbach - East Germany

    Long Program

    Bronze: Barbara Underhill & Paul Martini - CAN

    Long Program

    ICE DANCE

    Gold: Jayne Torvill & Christopher Dean - GBR

    OSP

    Free Dance

    Free Dance - 2nd Video

    Free Dance - 3rd Video

    Silver: Natalia Bestemianova & Andrei Bukin - USSR

    Free Dance

    Bronze: Judy Blumberg & Michael Seibert - USA

    Free Dance
     
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  2. skateboy

    skateboy Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for this. Haven't gotten around to watching all of these yet, but watched the men.

    Wow, I'd forgotten how great Scott Hamilton could be! That was a beautifully choreographed program (despite the crazy music cuts, typical of 80s programs). To me, that's exactly how footwork should be--fast, difficult, perfectly timed with the music. Every part of that program had a meaning, as the commentator said. Fantastic!

    Sad that Elaine Zayak had to drop out. She'd gained some weight, but still had all her triples (including the loop). As the defending world champion, she very well may have medalled, paving a way to a better Olympic finish than what she got.
     
  3. DORISPULASKI

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    What a nice copy of T&D's Rock n Roll OSP that is! The copy I have has a Canadian commentator talking nonstop over the top of it (Otto Jelinek, perhaps?)

    I've always wondered what the music was for that program. It sounds like Variations on a Theme by Paganini redone with a back beat :lol:

    Does anyone know what it really is?

    Also, really nice copies of B&B's and B&S's silver and bronze FD's.
     
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  4. olympic

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    Roz always left me cold. I respect her skating basics, but she always looked like the landing of any triples was a chore. Her speed, straight back and great basics yet not entirely secure jumps make me think of her as an American version of Lepisto.

    Gutted that Zayak couldn't compete. I think if she were healthy, she would've done well enough to medal but not defend her title.

    V/V made their debut this year, didn't they?
     
  5. orbitz

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    I remember hating Janet Lynn's commentary back then; I thought it was lifeless, but now I don't think it was bad at all. She spoke just enough during the performances, I think.

    What was Witt's opening music in her LP? Was it a song from The Four Tops? This was the last time she attempted the 3flip in competition.

    Leistner's music cut was a mess, and the choreography was awful.

    Love T&D's Barnum, but I like the Mack & Mabel program better.

    Didn't know Roz's gold medal was lost for 20 years. She must have been p.o. at the Bank for losing it, LOL.
     
  6. Seerek

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    The opening cut was London Symphony Orchestra's version of "Reach Out (I'll Be There)" by the Four Tops from the "Hooked on Rock Classics" album.

    Katarina attempted 3 flip one last time in the fall of 1983 at Skate Canada (two-footed).
     
  7. skatesindreams

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  8. floskate

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    Oh I do wish they hadn't made Witt change her SP costume from Europeans. As kitsch and campy as it seems now, she really was trying new stuff back then.

    Other than Barnum, the only thing I ever think of when watching this championships is teh pairs result. To this day I still would give it to Baess & Thierbach over V&V whose sbs 3t's seem to have bedazzled the judges enough to overlook the other major errors.
     
  9. skatesindreams

    skatesindreams Well-Known Member

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    floskate, I couldn't agree more.
     
  10. Frau Muller

    Frau Muller President of Dick Button Appreciation Club

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    Even so, the most beautiful and musical pairs LP of the competition belonged to Underhill/Martini. I actually preferred this version to the 1984 edition to the same Gershwin Concerto music, even though they won Worlds in 84. The 1983 choreography is, to me, more sophisticated & the black costumes sleeker than the blue-1984. U/M 1983 is still among my top programs of all time, in any discipline.
     
  11. Louise

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    LOL that the commentator referred to Claudia Leistner as "one of the most exciting athletic female skaters that we have". :scream:

    Roz was pretty as a picture. Everything was so refined about her skating.
     
  12. olympic

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    Perhaps the Soviet Fed was pushing really hard for V/V since it was a pre-Olympic championship and all. There was a probably a bit of frustration in the Soviet Union over the lack of a solid pairs team since the retirement of R/Z in 1980: Vorobieva/Lisovski, Cherkasova/Shakrai, Pestova/ Leonovich all tried and failed to deliver any lasting results in the interim.
     
  13. skatesindreams

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    Scott's 1983 program was my favorite of all he did.
    It suited him perfectly.

    I really appreciate Robin Cousins' commentary.
     
  14. briancoogaert

    briancoogaert Well-Known Member

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    Nobert Schramm's and Elena Vodorezova's musics should have been banned/
     
  15. olympic

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    This is how I remember the results in Ladies -

    1. Rosalynn Sumners
    2. Claudia Leistner
    3. Elena Vodorezova
    4. Katarina Witt
    5. Anna Kondrashova
    6. Kristiina Wegelius
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    9. Tiffany Chin

    Does anyone recall who finished 7th and 8th?
     
  16. gkelly

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  17. Maofan7

    Maofan7 Member

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    And here is Kay Thomson's LP from the Championships:-

    Kay Thomson - LP

    The interesting thing about Kay Thomson is that she was one of the very few ladies skaters who regularly included a triple lutz in her programs at this time and you will see that she included one in this program.

    Also Kristiina Wegelius LP (she finished 6th, having fallen from 1st to 9th overall the previous year following her FS):-

    Kristiina Wegelius - LP

    And Kitty & Peter Carruthers LP from the pairs competition in which they finished 4th:-

    Carruthers & Carruthers - LP
     
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  18. floskate

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    Kay was coming off the back of a strong national championship where she became the first woman to land 3z/2t in the SP. Unfortunately it didn't work out for her here but she's always fascinating to watch because of her amazing spins. She did regularly try the triple lutz but this was her ONLY triple jump. She was trying the flip in the 1984 season but I never saw her land it. I always wondered why her only triple was the lutz.
     
  19. Erin

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    This is the first time that I've actually had time to go and watch some of the performances to participate in this thread.

    I agree. I'd always remembered Scott's 1981-1984 programs as being somewhat interchangeable (probably because of the crazy 80s music cuts), but this one really was excellent.

    I'd forgotten how flail-y Brian Orser was back in those days. He sure had crazy windmill arms! But the choreography in the first two sections of the program is very good and his footwork was also very well done. This was really the first program where Orser established himself as more than just a jumper.

    The Euros costume was cool, but I don't think it really had anything to do with the program (not that the Worlds one did either). The Youtube comments under the Worlds program describe her as being dressed as Mozart, but I think there was about 5 seconds of Mozart music in there. Even by 80s standards, that was a lot of music cuts. Good old Hooked on Classics...

    I haven't gotten around to the pairs competition yet, but when I first watched this competition, my inclination would have been to have V&V completely off the podium. I'm curious to see if my opinion stays the same on this viewing.

    I never liked Roz as a pro skater, but I do have an appreciation for her amateur skating. Maybe it's because she's so lovely compared to Witt, Vodorezova, Leistner (especially).

    Kay's jumping technique was pretty bad...for me, the big mystery is not why she couldn't land the other triples, but how on earth she landed the triple lutz. Loved her spins, though.
     
  20. Dave of the North

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    IIRC, Kay Thomson had had a vertebrae removed from her back (or one was missing?) which is why she could get into those amazing positions in her spins. I remember that, given the jumbled standings after the SP, she could have won the whole thing (at least according to Johnny Esau...:p)
     
  21. olympic

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    Witt won the SP here. What happened to Roz? I don't see her video posted, but since she wasn't leading Witt, I assume she had a problem of some sort [deduction]
     
  22. Erin

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    I hadn't watched Kay's free skate when I responded previously, but Kay also attempted the flip at 1983 Worlds in the skate linked above and stood up on it, but it was very badly cheated and had a turn out.

    So I watched it yesterday and I think I was a bit too harsh, I still would have had V&V ahead of the Carrutherses (and V&V's lead after the SP would have kept them on the podium anyway). But I definitely agree V&V should have been behind Baess & Thierbach. The tougher decision is what to do with Underhill & Martini. It was a very tough competition to judge because there wasn't one pair who had everything. Underhill & Martini were the only team with a cohesive, well-choreographed program and had the best quality death spirals. Lifts and throws were also very high quality but not the most difficult. And of course, side by side jumps were the weakest amongst the top 3. Baess & Thierbach had the most difficult throws that were well-executed, side by side double axels but not triple toes, nice lines but not spectacular, program was all right but nothing memorable. Valova & Vassiliev had the best jumps, same throw difficulty as Underhill & Martini with lower quality, program was a hodgepodge mishmash but lots of interesting transitions. I think I would have it B&T, U&M, V&V...but I could also see good cases for U&M, B&T, V&V or B&T, V&V, U&M.

    On a totally different topic, one thing I found interesting was that while the Zayak rule had been enacted the previous summer, not everyone was following it, nor did the judges seem to care, as both Sumners and Hamilton had violations - Sumners had two triple sals, neither in combination, and Hamilton did three triple toes. You would think that everyone would be particularly sensitive with the new rule just in, but apparently not.
     
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  23. floskate

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    Yes you're right she did and that's probably the best attempt I saw her do, but it still wasn't landed. Her lutz was UR too.


    I don't know why Sumners did that. Many skaters continued to do three triple toes and were getting away with it providing one was a toe walley. At that time they were still classed as separate jumps. The toe walley is supposed to take off from an RBI edge rather than the RBO of the toe loop. Most skaters still took off from RBO though so in the mid-1980's the ISU issued a clarification that they would now regard toe loop and toe walley as one and the same jump. I remember reading an article in one of the skating magazines at the time on the matter whihc seemed to suggest that the reasoning behind the decision was that most skaters couldn't do a clean toe walley. Ironically enough, IIRC one of the few skaters who could do a clean 3 toe walley was Elaine Zayak!
     
  24. skatesindreams

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    It's a pity that the judges seemingly did everything they could to marginalize Elaine during her career.
    I'm glad that she won one World Championship, at least.
     
  25. orbitz

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    I think this was only true in 84. Elaine did well nationally and internationally in 80-82.
     
  26. skatesindreams

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  27. falling_dance

    falling_dance D. Murakami's Newest Fan

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    I can see what Ottum and many others protested about the times, those aspects of the skating world and US society at large that ranged from pettily annoying to mind-bendingly brutal (of course, it's not like they're all safely in the past, either) but I'm only on the second page of his article and it's already too difficult for me not to be even more of a Sumners uber in retrospect:

     
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  28. Coco

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    Those articles made me nostalgic for soooooo much. I miss in depth articles like that, on athletes who aren't protected by oodles of media training or high power agents. Fun reading!
     
  29. judgejudy27

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    Zayak was 11th after figures so no way she would have medaled. Witt came 1st in the SP and did a clean LP with far more jump content than Sumners and still was placed only a close 2nd behind Sumners in the LP. Elaine couldnt have done better than this and that still wasnt enough for Witt to climb from 8th to a medal.
     
  30. floskate

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    Zayak's results were always a lottery based on what foot the figures were drawn on. If they were on her injured foot she just did not have the control she could otherwise get from her other foot. Case in point her figures placements for Worlds in 1982 where she was 4th.