Retrospective: The 1982 World Championships

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  1. Maofan7

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    Not sure if The Trash Can is the correct place for this, but if it isn't then please feel free to move it. Previous retrospectives I have done have gone in to The Trash Can, but I know that the criteria has changed since then. I assume it is The Trash Can, as I don't think it would go in the Great Skate Debate and the K&C seems to be reserved for current competitions - not historic ones (but, correct me if I am wrong).

    The key facts about the 1982 World Championships were as follows:-

    • Elaine Zayak becomes world champion for the first time. She landed 6 triples in her long program, but 4 of them were toe loops. This lead to the introduction of the "Zayak Rule" which states that a skater may not perform the same type of jump more than twice (one of which must be in combination). The rule was enacted at the 1982 ISU congress and was designed to encourage skaters to perform a greater variety of elements in their programs. Although it is known as the "Zayak Rule", Zayak was not the only skater to have incorporated the same jump more than twice into their free skate. Sanda Dubravčić also used to include multiple triple toe loops and double axels into her free skate. However, this did not prevent her from winning a silver medal at the 1981 European Championships
    • Katarina Witt wins Silver - her first medal at Worlds. Rosalynn Sumners makes her debut at Worlds, finishing in 6th place. She would win the title the following year. She was unlucky in her preparations for the 1982 Worlds as she suffered a hip injury which left her only a short time to get ready.
    • Torvill and Dean retain their World title. Their free dance was the absolutely amazing Mack and Mabel for which they received five 6.0's! Everything else was 5.9. Great innovation. Interestingly, during the early part of 1982, Torvill and Dean went to the London Palladium and saw Michael Crawford in the musical, Barnum. This of course inspired them to create their new Free Dance for the 1982/83 season (i.e. Barnum)
    • Irina Moiseeva & Andrei Minenkov, known as "Mini & Mo", moved up from 4th to 3rd as a result of their free dance (denying Judy Blumberg & Michael Seibert, with their Fred & Ginger routine, a medal in the process). They skated to Bolero in their free dance, a full 2 years before Torvill & Dean did.
    • Scott Hamilton also retained his title. Brian Pockar won bronze for Canada, beating Brian Orser into 4th place.
    • Sabine Baeß & Tassilo Thierbach win the world pairs title for the first and only time after several years of trying. Moreover, they were the only pairs skaters representing East Germany to become World champions
    • Kitty & Peter Carruthers won their first and only world championships medal at these championships, but would later go on to win the Silver at the 1984 Olympics

    Here are the medal winning performances:-

    MENS

    Gold: Scott Hamilton - USA

    Free Skate

    Silver: Norbert Schramm - West Germany

    Free Skate

    Bronze: Brian Pockar - Canada

    Free Skate

    4th: Brian Orser - Canada

    Free Skate

    LADIES

    Gold: Elaine Zayak - USA

    Short Program

    Free Skate

    Silver: Katarina Witt - East Germany

    Short Program

    Free Skate

    Bronze: Claudia Kristofics-Binder - Austria

    Free Skate

    6th: Rosalynn Sumners - USA

    Free Skate

    PAIRS

    Gold: Sabine Baeß & Tassilo Thierbach - East Germany

    Short Program

    Long Program

    Silver: Marina Pestova & Stanislav Leonovich - USSR

    Short Program

    Long Program

    Bronze: Caitlin Carruthers & Peter Carruthers - USA

    Short Program

    Long Program

    ICE DANCE

    Gold: Jayne Torvill & Christopher Dean - GBR

    Compulsory Dance

    Free Dance

    Silver: Natalia Bestemianova & Andrei Bukin - USSR

    Free Dance

    Bronze: Irina Moiseeva & Andrei Minenkov - USSR

    Free Dance

    4th: Judy Blumberg & Michael Seibert - USA

    Free Dance
     
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  2. olympic

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    My biggest and best memory is of Elaine Zayak moving from 7th to 1st place with her LP that included 6 triples.

    But, the rest of the ladies comp was pretty :yikes: Even normally solid Witt was a bit stumbly. Anyone remember where Sumners placed in the LP amidst the splatfest?

    Men: I think Scott Hamilton fell in the SP, which was considered shocking, but he still retained his crown. Norbert Schramm was solidly 2d to Scott for a couple of seasons, but disappeared by Sarajevo '84. Anyone know what happened to him? I also recall that this was David Santee's final amateur competition and he finished a dismal 8th [some felt that a teenager by the name of Brian Boitano should've been on the US team]. Robert Wagenhoffer was 6th.

    Pairs: An odd competition; The GDR and US teams were inspired. The top Soviet teams were NOT. B/T won their first and only World title. I remember they did 3 throws which was something. They were quite technically proficient. Pestova/Leonovich was 2d with what I recall was a pretty subpar performance. The Carruthers's moved up to the Bronze after defending World Champs Vorobieva / Lisovski bit it in the LP. Did the Carruthers' have the 2d best LP? I do recall the Soviet teams weren't that great

    Ice Dance: B/B moved up to 2d and it was a fight for the Bronze between B/S and M/M. I do recall thinking that M/M deserved it, though.
     
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  3. gk_891

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    I really like Moiseeva and Minenkov but I wasn't a fan of their FD that year. It felt like 3 random numbers pasted together.
     
  4. Maofan7

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    I think Blumberg & Seibert were definitely unlucky to miss out on the bronze.
     
  5. Ozzisk8tr

    Ozzisk8tr Well-Known Member

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    I remember Katarina skating to Superman in that hideous purple and white diagonal floral thing. I also remember Scott Hamilton being hit in the eye by some flowers someone threw as he was interviewed. Maybe that explains things.
     
  6. nubka

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    Wow, you really put a lot of work into your post - thanks! I will enjoy watching all the skates you have linked here. :)
     
  7. matti

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  8. Seerek

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    Also of note that this was the final year that the double flip was used as the required jump in the jump combination. Some of the more ambitious ladies (Zayak and Witt) went for the 2 flip - 3 toe combination with varying degrees of success. Not sure how it went with the men's SP that year...
     
  9. olympic

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    I'm at work and can't access youtube. Is that Wegelius? Did she even manage 1 clean triple?
     
  10. briancoogaert

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    Mini & Mo ???? I thought their nickname was Mo&Min !

    Anyway, thanks to the original poster because I've never watched these Worlds and I'm happy to discover them !
     
  11. berthesghost

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    She only appears to have tried one triple, which she fell on. She stepped out of 3 doubles in the 2nd half of the lp which is what really did her in.
     
  12. Seerek

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    Keep in mind that Kristina Wegelius needed to place ahead of Claudia Kristofics-Binder in the free skate (4th) to win gold, and Claudia had 2 3-salchows in her LP. There was no way Wegelius was going to place 4th in the LP with her planned content.
     
  13. matti

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    I don't think she ever landed a triple in competition...(?) Shame.
     
  14. essence_of_soy

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    Having Carlo Fassi as a coach must have really been an influence on Kristina Wegelius' style. She has modeled herself on Dorothy Hamill right down to the Wedge haircut.
     
  15. sus2850

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    Thanks for putting that post together, I enjoyed watching the videos!
    Someone asked about Norbert Schramm, here is his website:
    http://www.norbert-schramm.de
     
  16. olympic

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    That was me. Thx
     
  17. Maofan7

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    Norbert remained pretty competitive almost right up to the end of his amateur career (e.g. he finished second again to Scott Hamilton at the 1983 Worlds). He simply had a disastrous 1984. He finished 9th at the 1984 Olympics and then withdrew from the 1984 Worlds and retired as an amateur skater.

    This bizarre fall in his short program at the 1984 Olympics somewhat summed up his 1983/84 season!:-

    Norbert Schramm - Short Program - 1984 Olympics
     
  18. olympic

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    Thanks, I was unaware of his participation in Sarajevo '84. ABC coverage was pretty bad unless you were a top 6 skater, so I didn't see his performances

    ETA - I watched the videos of the ladies SP.

    Zayak's SP despite the fall was nice - great, opening Camel spin, double axel and double salchow. She was definitely a substantial skater who was more than just about triple jumps.

    I also liked this version of Witt - the athletic tomboy with big strong jumps who skated to cheesy music, not the mouthy diva she would become in the 2d Olympic cycle.

    If Witt was first in the SP and Zayak was 10th, does anyone know who filled in 2d, 3d, 4th, etc.?
     
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  19. Seerek

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    According to Wiki, it was:

    Witt
    Leistner
    Vodorezova
    Sumners

    but I'm not sure if anyone else in the field attempted 2 flip - 3 toe. I think the other ladies were attempting 2 flip - 2 loop instead.
     
  20. Maofan7

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    The other interesting point is that if there had been no school figures element, then the overall result based on the SP and LP would have been:-

    1st Katarina Witt
    2nd Claudia Leistner
    3rd Elaine Zayak
     
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  21. kukkura

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    There are lots of interesting points in the women's competition because of the fluctuation. For example, 2nd and 5th place were enough for Wegelius to lead the competition before LP, and 12th place in the LP dropped her from 1st to 9th. If she had been 20th instead of 5th in the SP, she still would have finished 9th overall.
     
  22. Seerek

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    Another point to consider: Claudia Kristofics-Binder would have been world champion had she been 4th in the long program instead of 5th (would have been 1-9-4 in the 3 segments)
     
  23. Vagabond

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    She was 1-9-4 in the three segments, my friend. ;)

    Check the Wikipedia page again.
     
  24. Erin

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    I'm late to this discussion, but just watched the CTV coverage of the SP and I can't believe how terrible the judging was in the ladies' SP. Zayak got hosed in the SP, very unfairly I thought. CTV showed the following skaters:

    Witt (1st) - double flip-triple toe clean
    Vodorezova (3rd) - double flip-single loop combo
    Wegelius (5th) - double flip-double loop combo clean
    Thomson (6th) - double flip-double loop combo clean
    Cottrill (8th) - double flip-double loop clean
    Kristoffics-Binder (9th) - double flip-double loop with three turns in between the two jumps, very squirrelly and poorly executed
    Zayak (10th) - double flip-triple toe fall
    Manley (11th) - double flip-double loop clean

    I can't speak about Leistner, Sumners, or de Vries, but I cannot understand how either Vodorezova or Kristoffics-Binder ended up ahead of Zayak when they also made mistakes on a simpler combination and did not have the same quality as Zayak when it came to the spins, basic skating, and the other two jumps. Vodorezova's placement is particularly confusing.

    Of the girls that did clean double flip-double loop combos, I thought Thomson and Manley had the best spins and Manley's strong basic skating was already evident by that stage - however, Manley was starting in 23rd after figures, so it's not really surprising that she didn't end up higher. Wegelius actually had a nice program and so I don't have a major problem with her placement, given that she had comparable content to most of the skaters in this program. Cottrill was pretty blah, not much to say either way about her.

    It's a good thing all the cards fell in the right place in the free for Zayak to win, as the judging in the SP was really stacked against her.