Retirements 2014

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  1. olympic

    olympic Well-Known Member

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    I think the JSF is grooming Satoko Miyahara very carefully, though. She did a 3-3 at 4CC's IIRC and is making quite a few improvements, but I do think for the first time in about a decade, you're not going to see Japanese ladies as a big threat for the top spot on the podium, at least for a while. It will be a throwback to Russia v. America like the 1999 - 2002 timetable, except this time Russia will have the upper hand. (Only of course if Asada and Kostner are joining Kim and Suzuki in the retirement village)
     
  2. NMURA

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    Murakami has said that she's competing in the next season. After that, it's unclear.There are too many factors to consider, such as the number of spots for 2016 worlds, Asada's return, younger rivals in Japan, her own results and reputations.
     
  3. arakwafan2006

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    I did not want to say it but since you did! I just... mmmmm... wow... yeah... Kanako... I sure hope you teach things the correct way lol
     
  4. TAHbKA

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  5. Jeschke

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    thanks for the news, just waited for the announcement after this horrible season for them
     
  6. Marco

    Marco Missing Ziggy

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    I disagree. For about 2 to 3 years, she has been getting PCS that is more than what she deserved and mostly based on her standing up on jumps rather than her really achieving those PCS standards. She has horrible posture and line, pumps up and down, awful mule kick technique to her flips and lutzes and very little finesse. I am hoping Miyahara would gain some major speed and power and lead Japan for the next 4 years, and that Imai would get the harder jumps, or that Hongo would grow out of her Ando-esque presentation.

    Exactly.
     
  7. Jeschke

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    absolutely right marco!
    and over the 'ando-esque presentation' i am willing to overlook :cool:
     
  8. MacMadame

    MacMadame Internet Beyotch

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    Yes because if you can't do something, you couldn't possibly teach other people how to do it. Only coaches who can do quads can teach others to do quads. :rolleyes:
     
  9. Sylvia

    Sylvia Bring on the JGP & Sr B comps!

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    I thought Ami Parekh (IND) offered some interesting personal insights on this topic in her blog post:
    Changing my Lifestyle?

    Excerpt:
     
  10. berthesghost

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    perhaps that's not their point. Orser didn't land quads, but he's not telling Fernandez and Hanyu "oh don't even bother, no one needs quads to win!" These posters know, but does she know she has "little finesse, horrible body line and Ando-like presentation"? :p
     
  11. Aceon6

    Aceon6 Get off my lawn

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    It depends on how she wants to structure her coaching. She may be well aware that she needs a jumping specialist to work with her students. It's also quite possible that she can teach correct technique even though she wasn't able to consistently apply it. Teaching is a lot more than demonstrating and having a student copy.
     
  12. Seerek

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    To her credit, Ami ended up finishing her career on a high note, with a 5th place finish at Challenge Cup (even getting close to the TES minimum in the free skate for Worlds). She may have already achieved the technical minimums for 2015 Four Continents had she continued on.
     
  13. Ziggy

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    I am sorry to hear about Ami Parekh retiring. She seems to have really improved this season.

    I am a little surprised. I was quite convinced that she would dump him considering his very poor performances this season but she is still young and I thought that she would look for a new partner.

    As much as I love Murakami's spark and attack, all of the above criticisms are on point.

    (I also hope the same for Miyahara, Imai and Hongo. Imai's basic skating and fluid movement are really lovely and if she only got the harder jumps sorted, she would have the whole package)
     
  14. jlai

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    Murakami has been fairly consistent in big competitions but I think the new crop of talent has made her weaknesses more obvious.
     
  15. kwanfan1818

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    It's not clear she knows what good basics are -- not just jump basics -- and I don't think people who don't know what good basics are should be coaching. YMMV.
     
  16. arakwafan2006

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    That is true. Most of the things that we do well day to day might not be correct. When I train a new employee, I teach them the way it's supposed to be done. If they figure out short cuts, congrats!
     
  17. casken

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    Maybe the google translation was bad, but it sounded like he said she would continue to look for another partner to represent Ukraine.
     
  18. TAHbKA

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    Тhe google translation sucked. He said no such thing.
     
  19. Sylvia

    Sylvia Bring on the JGP & Sr B comps!

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    Kento Nakamura, one of my favorite of the lesser-known Japanese men, tweeted this 2 days ago - can someone confirm that he is retiring from skating next month (after a show in Osaka?):
     
  20. rosewood

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    (my rough translation)
    "I decided to close my life as a skater of 16 years as of the annual intercollegiate competition held in Osaka next month. I decided my retirement after enough consideration. I'll try my best aiming at a new goal. If you have time, please come and see me. 9:33pm - 2 Apr 14"

    The annual intercollageate competition will be held on May the third(17:45-22:45) in Osaka(at Rinkai Sports Center). It's a small competition(only four universities participate). He is supposed to graduate from Rikkyo University this month but I cant confirm it. I heard he wants to be a business man but I can't confirm what he's going to do after his retirement either so far. He'll announce sooner or later.
     
  21. Sylvia

    Sylvia Bring on the JGP & Sr B comps!

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    ^^^ Thank you very much, rosewood!
     
  22. casken

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    Ah, thanks.

    This is the translated part that make me think otherwise:

     
  23. TAHbKA

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    No, that's incorrect.

    Шиван собирается продолжить обучение в Калифорнии. Она мне говорила, что не собирается выбрасывать свой украинский паспорт, после обучения хочет, чтоб ее карьера была связана с нашей страной. Вообще ее семья за эти три года ежедневно следили за Украиной в новостях: и поддерживали, и сочувствовали украинскому народу.
    Siobhan is going to continue her education in California. She said she is not going to give up her Ukranian citizenship and once she graduates she wants her career to be related to our country. Her family had been following the news from Ukraine in the last 3 years, they feel and support the Ukranians
     
  24. Sylvia

    Sylvia Bring on the JGP & Sr B comps!

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    Four-time British champion Matthew Parr, 24, has announced his retirement: http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/11142977.Parr_calls_it_a_day_after_Olympics/
    Link to GSD news thread: O'Brien/Merriman (AUS) announce their retirement

    Also: Rockne Brubaker is new Skate School Director at Fox Valley Ice Arena in Illinois
     
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  25. kwanfan1818

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    I wish him the best. He seemed so happy just to be on the ice in Sochi.
     
  26. Ziggy

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    I imagine that Brubaker accepting that coaching role means he is effectively retired?
     
  27. The Observer

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    I would assume so. It was kind of looking that way considering how far off the podium Davis & Brubaker finished this year.

    Was hoping to see Rockne at the international level again, but it makes sense he would want to transition into another career at this stage.
     
  28. Sylvia

    Sylvia Bring on the JGP & Sr B comps!

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    Thanks, Sylvia. :) I guess there is a retirement thread afterall.
     
  30. Sylvia

    Sylvia Bring on the JGP & Sr B comps!

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